#ocaml on 2016-11-13 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2016-11-11 21:04 adrien changed the topic of #ocaml to: Discussions about the OCaml programming language | http://www.ocaml.org | Current MOOC: https://huit.re/ocamlmooc | OCaml 4.04.0 release notes: http://ocaml.org/releases/4.04.html | Try OCaml in your browser: http://try.ocamlpro.com | Public channel logs at http://irclog.whitequark.org/ocaml

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03:51 <okuu> Is there some way to clear the REPL's buffer in tuareg?

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07:30 <etc> When I run 'utop' it prints the "welcome to utop" but no prompt and hangs - using gdb it seems to be waiting on some mutex. ocamlrun works and so does just 'ocaml'. Any idea how to investigate?

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13:34 <digiorgi> Hi! i new o the ocaml world. I need to write a web applicationvery integrated to paypal and the aws api. Is ocaml ok for this? will i suffer for the lack of threads and libraries?

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13:43 <malc_> digiorgi: depends on what you mean by the "lack of threads"

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13:46 <digiorgi> malc_: lack of parallelism via light weight system threads, o maybe the cost in production of the communication of processes via shared memory using unix fork is not much and i don't need to worry... i don't know

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13:47 <malc_> digiorgi: you can inquire here (or on the ML about LWT and whether it is applicable in your case)

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13:48 <malc_> but this things doesn't sound CPU bound so lack of "native" MT shouldn't be that much of an issue

13:50 <Algebr`> digiorgi: yes, OCaml is totally okay for this

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13:54 <Algebr`> re mirage, how much C libraries can you use? For example, nocrypto uses some C, but its all compiled into the code, no C libs needed. Can the same be done for C++? Like say I don't use anything other than the standard C++ lib

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19:05 <cpdean> hey everyone — i'm trying to work through debugging a simple function using trace

19:05 <cpdean> i've found that the output of trace is kind of hard to follow because it shows you the intermediate partial applications of the function that is being traced

19:05 <cpdean> so i've found i can make its output easier to read by converting a definition like `let fn a b = …` to `let fn (a, b) = …`

19:06 <cpdean> is this an idiomatic way to make debug easier, or am i doing something wrong

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21:36 <piemonkey> I have a quick question: when running utop / the ocaml REPL, I get an error "unbound module Topdirs". After some Googling I could not find anyone else reporting about a similar error. Has anyone here encountered and resolevd this problem?

21:36 <piemonkey> My apologies if this is the wrong place to ask this kind of question

21:39 <Algebr`> its the right place

21:39 <Algebr`> I think it might be possible that your opam switch was out of whack when you started utop

21:39 <Algebr`> you can check with `opam switch`

21:40 <piemonkey> Ah yes, my environment was not in sync with the current switch

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21:41 <piemonkey> It looks like it's because I installed using the Ubuntu package manager and it got out of sync with what Opam expected

21:41 <piemonkey> it appears to be resolved, thanks for your quick help! :-)

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21:43 <paulc123> I'm getting an error: Error: Error while linking /home/paul/.opam/4.03.0/lib/ocaml/unix.cma(Unix): The external function `unix_has_symlink' is not available. -- Is there something I need to do to link the unix.cma?

21:45 <paulc123> I'm running on Debian

21:49 <Algebr`> how is this being compiled, can you provide more context

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21:55 <paulc123> sure, I was running "make" after doing an oasis setup. I'll get the files up in a gist

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22:13 <paulc123> here is the example app that's giving me the "unix_has_symlink is not available" bug: https://github.com/pcarleton/ocamltest

22:15 <Algebr`> paulc123: cloned, ran it, was fine for me on OS X. I cloned it, then did: oasis setup -setup-update dynamic

22:15 <Algebr`> then typed `make`

22:15 <Algebr`> also check if your switch is out of whack maybe

22:17 <paulc123> Thanks for checking. I wonder if it is a Debian specific problem... When you say "switch" what are you referring to?

22:17 <Algebr`> doing: opam switch

22:19 <paulc123> oh gotcha. It looks like I'm running 4.03.0, although it lists my "system" as 4.01.0 I'm going to switch to 4.01.0 to see if that helps

22:20 <Algebr`> system is the one that comes with opam most likely installed via apt-get

22:20 <Algebr`> maybe do a named separate switch: opam switch -A working 4.03.0

22:21 <Algebr`> (optional, opam install starterkit to get some opinionated things you want for an OCaml development environment, aka merlin, oasis, ocp-browser)

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22:25 <Algebr`> paulc123: okay good luck

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22:53 <tavo> Hi everyone, I'm new to ocaml and I came upon Camlp4, this is just a pretty-printer, correct? Not a different version of Ocaml

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23:01 <tavo_> I'm still here lol

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