#ocaml on 2016-11-29 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2016-11-11 21:04 adrien changed the topic of #ocaml to: Discussions about the OCaml programming language | http://www.ocaml.org | Current MOOC: https://huit.re/ocamlmooc | OCaml 4.04.0 release notes: http://ocaml.org/releases/4.04.html | Try OCaml in your browser: http://try.ocamlpro.com | Public channel logs at http://irclog.whitequark.org/ocaml

00:00 <Drup> cheater: try to type the module Float in your toplevel

00:00 <Drup> and see what signatures it gives you

00:00 <Drup> now, compare it to the definition of CURRENCY

00:00 <Drup> you should find some differences

00:02 <cheater> it said this: http://sprunge.us/GAON

00:03 <cheater> the difference is in type t and the first parameter of prod

00:03 <cheater> so what are you trying to say?

00:04 <cheater> i'm afraid it's difficult for me to follow from that

00:04 <Drup> so, you see that in your version, the definition of t is exposed in the signature

00:04 <Drup> hum, the copy paste was a bit garbled

00:05 <Drup> anyway, it says "type t = float"

00:05 <Drup> but in CURRENCY, it doesn't

00:05 <cheater> garbled how?

00:05 <cheater> yeah, it doesn't, it says "type t"

00:05 <Drup> which mean it doesn't expose the definition of type t, it's just an abstract type, and you don't know that it's a float

00:06 <cheater> ok

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00:07 <Drup> (the rest of the section in the book is dedicated to explaining this, so it would probably do a better job than I would)

00:08 <cheater> ok so... you say that Float is compatible with CURRENCY because of structural typing... what's that?

00:08 <cheater> you're doing a pretty good job tbh :)

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00:08 <cheater> much better than the page i am reading..

00:09 <Drup> structural typing is just the fancy way of calling the typing for modules :p

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00:10 <cheater> ahh ok :)

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00:10 <cheater> ok now i see all my questions from earlier are answered :) thank you :)

00:10 <cheater> btw, does ocaml have the monomorphism restriction haskell does?

00:12 <Drup> no, but we have a thing called value restriction

00:12 <Drup> different, but similarly annoying :D

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00:32 <cheater> ok

00:34 <guy364> I'm getting a "This argument will not be used by this function" warning

00:34 <cheater> hmm... in this example...

00:34 <cheater> module Post = Old_Bank (Euro);;

00:34 <cheater> CLIENT with type currency = Post.currency and type t = Post.t

00:34 <cheater> module Client :

00:34 <cheater> = Post;;

00:35 <cheater> what does the last line mean?

00:35 <cheater> does it say that Post.t = Post ? i don't get it

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00:49 <guy364> http://pastebin.com/Axtt2MQb

00:50 <guy364> Warning is on line 8

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01:17 <aantron> cheater: it says that module Client = Post

01:18 <aantron> however Client is Post constrained by the signature CLIENT

01:18 <aantron> with certain additional type equalities

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01:30 <guy364> I need some help here guys

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01:38 <guy364> http://pastebin.com/wyzhz1Fh

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01:39 <guy364> Without using let...in I'm trying to take [1; 2; 5] and [1; 1; 6] and return [1; 1; 5]

01:39 <guy364> in other words, take 2 lists and return a list with the minimum value in each list

01:40 <guy364> and do it recursively

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01:49 <guy364> got it figured out

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06:41 <ocaml208> Trying to use emacs. 1. Install emacs 2. Install https://who.rocq.inria.fr/Albert.Cohen/tuareg/mode/ - Is that it ?

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06:44 <ocaml208> or this https://opam.ocaml.org/blog/turn-your-editor-into-an-ocaml-ide/

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07:38 <Algebr> you basically should get tuareg, ocp-indent, merlin. all off of opam

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07:43 <ocaml208> Yes. I am getting all of it.

07:43 <companion_cube> Armael: not trolling, I think systemd has things to limit the cpu/ram ;-)

07:43 <companion_cube> with cgroups or whatever

07:43 <Algebr> I use merlin with company and company provides popups

07:44 <ocaml208> What is company ?

07:44 <Algebr> company is an autocompletion framework in emacs

07:44 <Algebr> works with many different languages

07:46 <ocaml208> Starting with http://fdopen.github.io/opam-repository-mingw/installation/ for Windows.

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09:17 <cheater> aantron: thank you

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10:36 <vramana> Why is the debug flag -g? Does anybody know historical details?

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10:37 <Algebr> probaly cause c compilers use -g as debug flag

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12:14 <RalfJ> Hi all - I have a problem with opam pins. Say I have two packages A and Bpinned to some http://urlA.git#hashA1 and http://urlB.git#hashB1, and installed at these versions. I now want to upgrade the packages to hasA2 and hashB2. project B will only compile with matching versions of project A, so what I do is I update the pins with "pin add -n". after preparing all the pins, I now want opam to install the new versions I gave it to install... however, "opam

12:14 <RalfJ> upgrade" doesn't do anything, and neither does "opam install projectA projectB". "opam show projectA" shows no indication that opam even remembers that it didn't yet install the pinned version.

12:14 <RalfJ> how can I change several pins at once and then have opam re-compile things if needed?

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12:32 <ocaml619> 476458@LT032871 /cygdrive/d/Ocaml/Week 6/ocaml/opam64 $ bash install.sh the following programs are not installed properly: curl I can't proceed :( 476458@LT032871 /cygdrive/d/Ocaml/Week 6/ocaml/opam64 $ curl curl: try 'curl --help' or 'curl --manual' for more information

12:32 <ocaml619> Anyone know the meaning of this ?

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12:47 <Algebr> look at the install.sh script and try doing things line by line yourself

12:53 <orbifx-m> What techniques are there to stop the GC from collecting values in a scope?

12:53 <orbifx-m> unused values that is

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13:03 <flux> put them to a global variable, have a piece of C code register a global root to it, maybe it also works to put it into a tuple with a 'really' live variable

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13:08 <orbifx-m> I tried the last option using a list and seemed to work. But there is no ocaml function to ask the runtime to keep them?

13:16 <flux> I don't think so. what do you need it for?

13:16 <flux> ..sounds hacky ;)

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13:18 <orbifx-m> I need to save an object coming from a c stub

13:18 <orbifx-m> Ill do this properly by making it a parameter to the main loop

13:18 <orbifx-m> Are all parameters preserved even if they are not used?

13:19 <flux> I don't think so..

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13:27 <orbifx-m> Ok ill feed them to a function that makes the a global root

13:28 <orbifx-m> But that needs c right? No ocaml function?

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14:45 <flux> correct.

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15:02 <orbifx-m> Thanks flux

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