00:19 <beneroth> viaken, well you are right its a bad quote as it can be used that way ;(

00:20 <beneroth> eh

00:20 <beneroth> :)

00:20 <beneroth> (sad smiley was typo)

08:10 <tankfeeder> morning

08:10 <tankfeeder> seen?

08:10 <tankfeeder> https://www.thelocal.de/20171201/german-government-wants-backdoor-access-to-every-digital-device-report

08:12 <Regenaxer> Yes, heard. Interior ministers express such evil desires all the time

08:13 <tankfeeder> ok

08:23 <beneroth> morning

08:23 <beneroth> actually the planned laws are forbidden by german constitution

08:24 <beneroth> but.. well german politicians work since year like that: make illegal laws, then get them canceled by the highest court.

08:24 <beneroth> and... als schäuble said when he was interior minister and someone told him his new law violates the constitution "the constitution can be changed"

08:26 <beneroth> its all horrible. IT illiterate people making big talking and real laws. the only one who profits are the incompetent secret services and the IT bullshit industry

08:26 <beneroth> but at least.. you get ruined from politicians. in Switzerland the people voted for more surveillance and legalized hacking for secret services :)

08:28 <beneroth> If I ever have to hand over personal data... well I think the law is like you are forced to deliver the data, but you cannot be forced to make into a nice report or so.. thats their problem.. so... maybe just give them raw pil DB files, yeah? :D

08:32 <Regenaxer> yeah

08:45 <beneroth> so, I'm off to the mountains. see you on monday, have a good weekend guys :)

08:45 <beneroth> bb

13:20 <clacke[m]> OpenDocument spreadsheet XML, printed on paper

13:20 <clacke[m]> beneroth: enjoy the mountains!

16:47 <tankfeeder> /join #centos