<Regenaxer>
(or is that already included in the distro?)
<tankf33der>
alreasdy included. in bin
<Regenaxer>
ah, yes
<Regenaxer>
is included. Perfect
<beneroth>
hehe, nice
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<razzy>
Regenaxer: thx. i was hoping for some intelectual handle. with pilog
<Regenaxer>
Some handle?
<razzy>
something like "pilog is only in DB" or "pilog is used only in "macro" time before execution" or "there is no pilog at all" to limit my search space :]
<Regenaxer>
I don't know exactly
<Regenaxer>
Why do you want to know that?
<mtsd>
Good evening Regenaxer!
<Regenaxer>
Hi mtsd!
<tankf33der>
mtsd: o/
<Regenaxer>
razzy, It *is* used in DB queries
<mtsd>
Hi tankf33der, Good evening! :)
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<Regenaxer>
But you can do anything
<mtsd>
Hope you are all having a good Saturday night?
<tankf33der>
hey, i watching - cowboy bebop :)
<Regenaxer>
Yeah, I'm watching Handball
<mtsd>
Nice :)
<Regenaxer>
Ger <-> Island
<mtsd>
Both options :)
<mtsd>
Ah, how is it going?
<Regenaxer>
22 : 17 now
<Regenaxer>
4 more minutes
<Regenaxer>
5 min
<mtsd>
My brother-in-law is an ex- Handball player.
<Regenaxer>
Cool
<mtsd>
On a fairly high level
<tankf33der>
i played hockey for 10 years
<Regenaxer>
wow
<mtsd>
Me, not so much, haha
<Regenaxer>
Oh, great!
<mtsd>
hockey, great, tankf33der!
<Regenaxer>
I never did any sports
<mtsd>
Big sports in Russia and Sweden
<Regenaxer>
ice hockey?
<Regenaxer>
or "dry"?
<tankf33der>
ice, i was a goalkeeper
<mtsd>
ice hockey
<mtsd>
And Bandy as well
<Regenaxer>
👍
<mtsd>
I have only done some distance running, but not on a very high level. I just liked doing it
<mtsd>
I like the solitude, find it very relaxing to just run
<Regenaxer>
Like a meditation
<mtsd>
Yes, exactly
<Regenaxer>
Finished, 24 : 19 :)
<mtsd>
Congratulations :)
<Regenaxer>
Thanks! :)
<Regenaxer>
Not my merit ;)
<mtsd>
Good that your team won :)
<Regenaxer>
yep
<mtsd>
I cheer for teams in the order I speak the language. So, first Sweden, If Sweden is out of the tournament, I go for England or Germany :)
<Regenaxer>
In case of Iceland it is near to Swedish, no?
<mtsd>
In a way. It is a scandianvian country. But the language is more similar to old norse than swedish
<mtsd>
We all used to speak similar to icelandic, but swedish, norwegian, danish has diverged over the years
<mtsd>
So, today norwegians and swedes understand each other fairly well. I find danish a bit harder, icelandic even more so
<Regenaxer>
ok
<Regenaxer>
Some words are the same even in German
<mtsd>
Still, we have a lot of history in common
<tankf33der>
mtsd: if i want find a job in sweden, what site i could use ?
<mtsd>
tankf33der: There are quite a few, and it could be worth checking Linkedin as well
<mtsd>
Thinking of moving here?
<mtsd>
Regenaxer: I remember thinking the same thing when I first started learning German, at school. How I recognized many words.
<tankf33der>
mtsd: no, just asking. its ok
<Regenaxer>
The very old, basic words are similar
<Regenaxer>
Son = Sohn
<mtsd>
Swedish has borrowed many words from German. In fact, German used to be the first foreign language taught here
<mtsd>
Fader = Vater
<Regenaxer>
T
<mtsd>
Moder = Mutter
<Regenaxer>
Dottir = Daughter = Tochter
<Regenaxer>
In north german dialect it is also Fader and Moder
<mtsd>
tankf33der: just let me know if you need any help
<mtsd>
Regenaxer: Interesting!
<mtsd>
I did not know that
<Regenaxer>
I think even the "a" in Fader is near to "o"
<Regenaxer>
å
<Regenaxer>
tankf33der, is it far to Sweden from Riga?
<Regenaxer>
Ferry?
<mtsd>
I think there still is a Ferry, from Stockholm to Riga
<Regenaxer>
must be
<mtsd>
Had to check. There is, an overnight trip.
<Regenaxer>
So rather far
<mtsd>
Leaves here at 17:00, arrives in Riga 11:00 the next day
<Regenaxer>
quite some time indeed
<mtsd>
I think it is quite popular as a sort of party trip. A bit longer than the cruises to Finland
<freemint>
i would love to have more multi hour dialogs with you but until mid March Prüfungszeitraum has priority
<Regenaxer>
OK, this should indeed have priority
<freemint>
agter that i got a few other interesting projects but one dialog every 4-3 weeks should be possible
<Regenaxer>
We don't need to make so very long dialogs
<Regenaxer>
A set of questions a time is easier
<mtsd>
Good evening freemint!
<freemint>
ideally yes, but realistically we will see.
<freemint>
i imagine that one could turn it in to a book about programming in PicoLisp
<freemint>
"Programming from first principles" might be a suitable title
<Regenaxer>
Nice
<freemint>
depending on how thick we want the tomb to be we might want to go down right down to discussing how pil32 is implement and what choices were made when making it pil64 including how the pilASM pipeline works
<Regenaxer>
Hmm, I would like to avoid pil32
<Regenaxer>
The future is pil64, and the two versions are different and thus confusing
<freemint>
my reasoning is that i guess that explaining pil32 is easier
<freemint>
I get that
<Regenaxer>
The code might look easier, as it is C
<Regenaxer>
But the internal structures are not so pure
<Regenaxer>
needed compromises
<mtsd>
Regenaxer, you were thinking of retiring pil32, right?
<Regenaxer>
At some distant time, yes
<Regenaxer>
Just keep mini
<Regenaxer>
if necessary
<mtsd>
So I should focus on trying to learn and understand pil64 fully, I take it
<freemint>
I will maybe depend on mini in 10 months or so
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<Regenaxer>
some embedded stuff?
<freemint>
my port real time OS to old/new CPU arch project
<Regenaxer>
Sounds good
<freemint>
the CPU already has GCC so it is fine.
<Regenaxer>
right
<freemint>
but no mmu in case that is relevant
<freemint>
does minipil work without VLA?
<Regenaxer>
MMU is needed for multiple processes
<Regenaxer>
fork() is not in mini
<Regenaxer>
It runs on minimal hardware
<freemint>
how minimal?
<Regenaxer>
The guys in India (Raman) have it running in less than 100 KiB RAM
<Regenaxer>
a little more ROM of course
<Regenaxer>
flash that is
<Regenaxer>
I ran it on an STM-32 here
<mtsd>
Time to sleep here. Good night everyone. See you!
<Regenaxer>
Good night mtsd!
<Regenaxer>
I go to sleep too very soon :)
<mtsd>
Sleep well! :)
<Regenaxer>
Good night all!
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<freemint>
Good Night
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