07:52 <freemint> Regenaxer, whave you thought about adding a function that allows you to return from the function you are in at any time (early return)?

07:53 <Regenaxer> Yes, it is there: 'throw'

07:54 <freemint> but throw needs an explizit catch around the function?

07:54 <Regenaxer> yes

07:55 <freemint> and throw/catch is able to unwind multiple functions calls

07:55 <Regenaxer> There must be some frame. It would be extremely expensive to set up such a frame for *every* function, so you must set it up with 'catch'

07:56 <Regenaxer> yes, can be in some other function

07:57 <freemint> could return be made cheaper than catch (since it has to unwind just one function instead of N)?

07:58 <Regenaxer> It will not get cheaper. Has to do the same work

07:58 <Regenaxer> Unbind vars, close files etc.

07:58 <freemint> OK it's fine then

07:59 <Regenaxer> It is in fact not aware of the function calls

08:02 <freemint> I ask because in Java,C,... there is the "return early" pattern which supposedly help to make code more readable (when (condition) (return 1)) (when (condition2) (return 2)) (return 3), i was curious whether that would hold for PicoLisp too. But before i dive to deeply into it i want to check with you whether it makes sense with the interpreter

08:04 <Regenaxer> Yeah

08:05 <freemint> How has the community been doing here?

08:05 <freemint> Did razzy leave, since he is not online?

08:05 <Regenaxer> It was quite quiet

08:05 <Regenaxer> He was here shortly ago

08:05 <Regenaxer> only a few minutes

08:06 <freemint> Ok, are your project going well?

08:06 <Regenaxer> yesterday or so

08:06 <Regenaxer> Yes, very good currently

08:06 <freemint> Want to tell anything you are proud of?

08:07 <Regenaxer> I'm not proud of anything

08:10 <freemint> Maybe i worded it badly. Is there anything that turned out good and you want to talk about it?

08:12 <Regenaxer> I made a video

08:12 <freemint> Oh?

08:12 <Regenaxer> A "Vip-Video"

08:12 <freemint> that is hip :)

08:12 <Regenaxer> I'll post later

08:12 <freemint> Maybe to the mailing list :)

08:13 <Regenaxer> I don't want to talk in the video, so I use Vip "slides"

08:13 <Regenaxer> yes, here too

08:15 <freemint> has anything moved with another picolisp meetup?

08:40 <Regenaxer> Nothing new I think ;)

09:13 <beneroth> hi Regenaxer, hi freemint

09:13 <Regenaxer> Hi beneroth!

12:56 <Regenaxer> お休み

15:50 <razzy> hi, i have also tablet. 32 bit arm. lenovo pad tb3-710F. cpu quad core cortex A53. and i have same problem as on phone.

16:14 <razzy> omg. do i need android device to be rooted for setting up executable?

16:14 <razzy> i mean chmod +x

16:48 <beneroth> usually not. depends. surely not to chmod +x something within termux...

16:51 <razzy> hm, maybe i am in protected directory or something

17:00 <razzy> thx. one step done.

21:02 <razzy> how do I run penti. note that I cannot work with pilbox

21:03 <razzy> also, I have trouble compiling for my arm android because I cannot run gcc

21:03 <razzy> ideas?

21:12 <razzy> I feel frustrated will try later

21:14 <beneroth> penti is completely separate from termux and pilbox

21:14 <beneroth> penti is an android keyboard app

21:15 <beneroth> when you have keyboard active, there should be a little icon to go into keyboard settings - there you can change keyboard to penti

21:15 <beneroth> else check android system settings and change keyboard there

22:51 <Regenaxer> Thanks beneroth!