antocuni changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/pypy/ ) | use cffi for calling C | "PyPy: the Gradual Reduction of Magic (tm)"
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<abrown> Can anyone explain the difference between RPython's jit-log-rewritten-loop, jit-log-compiling-loop, and jit-log-opt-loop in the logs?
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<cfbolz> abrown: you want opt almost always
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<fijal> I could
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<fijal> cfbolz: or rewritten
<fijal> I have no clue what's compiling though
<arigato> one of them shows the lower-level ops that the backend inputs
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<cfbolz> Rewritten
<fijal> yeah, what is compiling?
<fijal> the really-final one?
<fijal> no
<fijal> what goes into the backend it seems
<fijal> what's the difference between that and opt?
<fijal> something
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<arigato> ah, I think that compiling is the same as opt
<arigato> the difference is that compiling shows first, before the backend runs
<arigato> so if the backend crashes we can see what it was fed
<arigato> opt shows afterwards, with the assembler offsets added
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<fijal> yesish
<fijal> maybe
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<mattip> so I set my windows user interface language to non-ascii, and now I cannot run pypy3-v5.10,
<mattip> somewhere it raises a UnicodeDecodeError
<mattip> ok, good. So I tried to run a translation (still with the non-ascii interface) and translation also crashes
<mattip> with an error interpreting byte code, in _find_and_load
<mattip> anyone around to give me a hint which s.decode this might be?
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<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/1660 [mattip: force build, py3.5]
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<arigato> mattip (for the logs): grep says _find_and_load() is a function in lib-python/3/importlib/_bootstrap.py
<arigato> note that this traceback is in opposite order from what is usual
<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/1660 [mattip: force build, py3.5]
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<kenaan> rlamy py3.5 799e8d00a8ec /: hg merge default
<ronan> ^^^ note that some of the optimisations from cpyext-avoid-roundtrip are missing
<raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
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<flok420> import MySQLdb does not work?
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