antocuni changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/pypy/ ) | use cffi for calling C | "PyPy: the Gradual Reduction of Magic (tm)"
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<njs> arigato: cfbolz: I have another exciting question about what confuses the jit!
<njs> I would like to add some features for "annotated tracebacks", where I make a note about something interesting that happened to an exception at a certain point while it was propagating
<njs> my thought was that I could attach some attribute to the exception that mapped {frame: info_object}, and then when printing the traceback I could use match up the frames in the dict to the frames in the traceback
<njs> does simply calling sys._getframe() *and then not touching any attributes on the frame* annoy the JIT? I'm sort of hoping... maybe not, because the traceback object in the exception also has to capture frame references?
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<kenaan> mattip msvc14 f085cad7a9d4 /rpython/: use setuptools.msvc to find compilers, search only for vc9, vc14
<kenaan> mattip msvc14 a80fa2ff8d09 /rpython/translator/platform/windows.py: prefer vsver 140 for this branch, remove this before merging to default
<kenaan> mattip msvc14 5664c6a12efb /rpython/: start to pass translator tests
<kenaan> mattip msvc14 c88e339ac3f1 /pypy/doc/windows.rst: document vc v14, still not clear how to handle extern libraries and _ssl
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<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/1675 [mattip: force build, msvc14]
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<bbot2> Exception: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/1675 [mattip: force build, msvc14]
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<cfbolz> njs: iirc that should be OK
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<simpson> Hm, cool, 5.10 RPython wants to write to my source tree during build: IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/tmp/nix-build-typhon-vm.drv-0/typhon/rpython/rlib/rvmprof/src/shared/libbacktrace/config.h'
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<simpson> ...I guess I should stop messing around with RPython and write my submission to MoreVMs, huh.
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<mattip> hi
<mattip> working on vs14 support for windows, but now we need to support two sets of libs/dlls
<mattip> for gc, libbz2, libeay32, libexpat ...
<mattip> I thought of maybe getting MsvcPlatform to spit out different lib names in _lib()
<mattip> and then creating gc_14, libbz2_14, libeay32_14, ...
<mattip> but that will be confusing for anyone wondering why we ship tk85_14.dll
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<mattip> we could add a buildbot step to download external dependencies like cpython
<mattip> would take a few more minutes to build that way
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<mattip> cpython manages a git repo with a branch for each binary package https://github.com/python/cpython-bin-deps
<mattip> but only for vc14
<mattip> and https://github.com/python/cpython-source-deps for all the source packages
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