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<simpson> mattbillenstein: Yeah, you'll likely get more folks around during CET/CEST. Also, the folks who are in USA are taking a holiday today.
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<mattbillenstein> thanks -- a holiday is a great time to hack on some OSS ;)
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<mattbillenstein> hello, anyone around?
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<arigato> mattbillenstein: hi
<arigato> mattbillenstein: regarding the OS X support: we already got quite some help, see the logs of this channel for the hours before you asked
<kenaan> arigo extradoc 899e22aebe31 /sprintinfo/leysin-winter-2018/people.txt: List Johannah
<arigato> sorry, the correct spelling is Joannah
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<mattbillenstein> ok, so reading back on that, it seems the binary distributions are going to be compiled on an older version of osx to get around these backwards compatibility issues?
<arigato> yes, likely
<mattbillenstein> ok, sounds good - are you going to have a buildbot on that version as well?
<arigato> I have no clue so far, you should ask on the issue
<mattbillenstein> alright, I shall follow along there -- thx
<arigato> for now the goal is only to make official releases
<arigato> I think that a buildbot running nightly is a different issue
<arigato> though probably useful
<mattbillenstein> yeah, I thought it would be good to know of regressions against that version so that you wouldn't be surprised when cutting a new release
<mattbillenstein> ideally you have a buildbot on all supported versions
<Rotonen> one only needs to build on the oldest supported one, but test on all of them
<mattbillenstein> right
<mattbillenstein> they are rare, but there are some macos vps services out there
<mattbillenstein> which is maybe an option for mac hardware being hard to come by
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<gcbirzan> arigato: Thanks for that fix, btw. Now thee pypy version is only like 75% slower than python3 :)
<gcbirzan> But, I'm yet to figure out why that is... On my computer, it's okay. It's 2-3 times faster. In GKE, it's much slower.
<gcbirzan> The only thing I haven't tried locally is a VM
<gcbirzan> Also, there maybe should be nightly docker image, but that'll have to be a different name, since otherwise people with latest will get screwed...
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<gthank> I've got a question about getting uwsgi working under pypy3 if anybody has the time to walk me through it.
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<gthank> I'm using pip to install uwsgi under pypy3 and I've changed my uwsgi config to use `pypy-wsgi-file` instead of a plan `wsgi-file` but I'm still getting a bad gateway
<gthank> you have to load a pypy setup file with --pypy-setup
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<gthank> I'm on macOS (latest) and this is all inside a venv (which is active) so (to my understanding, at least) uwsgi should be aware that it's isntalled under pypy3
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<swarmer> Hi everybody! Saw a tweet asking for help with mac builds. I might be able to find some time. How can I help?
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<dowwie> I was working on a cffi tutorial when I found that one of the lines was no longer working. I suspect that maybe an api drifted since the article was written so I'm asking here-- what's wrong with this statement? ctypes.cast(ptr, ctypes.c_char_p).value.decode('utf-8')
<dowwie> the type that is trying to be converted is char* and this is the exception that raises: ArgumentError: argument 1: <class 'TypeError'>: wrong type
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<dowwie> how can I convert something like this type to a python string? <cdata 'char *' 0x55e5fb8a0550>
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<dowwie> ctypes was the issue.
<dowwie> switching to cffi.string worked
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