<kyak> xiangfu: hi
<kyak> do you have problems building glib2 after feeds update? cause I do :)
<xiangfu> kyak: Hi
<kyak> hi again
<xiangfu> kyak: I don't have compile error after feeds update.
<xiangfu> kyak: seems the glib2 not select by default.
<kyak> hm, i wonder how it became selected for me.. will try to disable
<kyak> xiangfu: glib2 is "hard selected" in make menuconfig
<kyak> --- glib2..
<kyak> like this
<xiangfu> kyak: which sub-menu?
<xiangfu> kyak: not here.
<xiangfu> kyak: <Libraries> --> <glibc> not selected.
<kyak> Libraries -> glib2
<kyak> glib2, not glibc
<xiangfu> kyak: yes. glib2 , not select here.
<kyak> hm
<kyak> there must be some dependancy that made it active
<xiangfu> kyak: yes.
<kyak> i think i'll just grab the latest .config and replace mine
<kyak> it must be skrewed
<xiangfu> :)
<kyak> hm
<kyak> it's still active
<kyak> is there some other config?
<xiangfu> kyak: oh. I can my .config. what is the glib2 error?
<xiangfu> I change my .config fle.
<xiangfu> dis-select the glib2.
<kyak> can i have it please?
<xiangfu> kyak: ok wait.
<kyak> i'll show you the error in a few..
<kyak> th error
<kyak> xiangfu: i don't actually need the ipk :)
<kyak> better to get this fixed or not to build glib2 at all
<kyak> xiangfu: i meant, can i have your .config?
<xiangfu> kyak: oh. you mean the .config file. sorry.
<kyak> also, you can build glib2, so the problem might be something else
<kyak> at first i understood it so, that it got selected for me by accident
<xiangfu> kyak: maybe you check if there gettext library in your host system.
<kyak> xiangfu: there is.. also, it built just fine until yerterday's evening
<kyak> when i updated feeds
<kyak> hm, make menuconfig is taking a while with your .config
<kyak> it just keep outputting three lines
<kyak> ++ mkdir -p stamp lib usr/include usr/lib
<kyak> mkdir &
<kyak> cd ..
<xiangfu> kyak: hmm. strange.
<xiangfu> kyak: we just delete the .config file. and create a new one. by "make menuconfig"
<kyak> good idea
<xiangfu> kyak: the glib2 finished compile here. without error.
<kyak> make menuconfig started ok without .config
<xiangfu> kyak: select  [Target System]  --> [Ingenic XBurst].
<xiangfu> kyak: [Subtarget] --> [QI Ben Nanonote (qi_lb60)]
<kyak> yep
<kyak> anytthing else?
<xiangfu> kyak: no .
<kyak> making now..
<kyak> xiangfu: it went fine, cause no pacakges were selected
<kyak> rootfs is 916 Kb :)
<kyak> not i try to enable glib2
<kyak> and build fails
<kyak> after i enabled glib2
<kyak> the same error
<xiangfu> kyak: hmm.. try to select "libintl" in
<xiangfu> Libraries
<kyak> xiangfu: it's selected by default
<kyak> "Hard" selected
<xiangfu> kyak: hmm. if there "gettext-0.17" under "build_dir/target-mipsel_uClibc-0.9.30.1"
<kyak> xiangfu: there is
<xiangfu> kyak: if there is. let's try delete "gettext-0.17" and "glib-2.22.2" and try "make" again.
<kyak> making now
<kyak> xiangfu: hey, it went fine! :)
<kyak> xiangfu: thanks :) i need to "make clean" sometimes
<xiangfu> kyak: great.
<xiangfu> iPerl: hihi :)
<N_jie_qi> hi
<xiangfu> hi
<iPerl> xiangfu: hi:)
<wpwrak> lekernel: good point ;-)
<kyak> mathomatic is not compiled, complains for readline unavailable
<kyak> disabled it.
<kyak> hm, no wonder, libreadline gets built after mathomatic
<kyak> it is so useful to make a clean build sometimes
<qwebirc60110> hi Iam newbie to nanonote
<qwebirc60110> can anybody help me
<xiangfu> qwebirc60110: Hi
<qwebirc60110> can you help me xiangfu
<xiangfu> qwebirc60110: hope I can . :). what is the problem?
<qwebirc60110> how can i develop any application for it ?
<qwebirc60110> and run ove rit
<zear> qwebirc60110, you can write it on your desktop pc and then cross-compile it with a right toolchain to the nanonote
<zear> use the same tools you use for developing apps for linux
<qwebirc60110> from where I can download the toolchain ?
<zear> you have to compile it yourself
<qwebirc60110> can we develop any graphical appication for it ?
<zear> qwebirc60110, yes, if you use the right libs
<zear> mainly sdl
<qwebirc60110> how ? plz tell me the procedure
<zear> though there is also gtk and qt, but there are still problems with that libs
<zear> well.. you have to learn sdl
<qwebirc60110> that is not the issue
<zear> the sdl app has to be 320x240 and 32bpp
<zear> that's pretty much all about sdl
<qwebirc60110> i only need to knwo the procedure
<qwebirc60110> and what about toolchain
<zear> there's no difference between the nanonote and a desktop linux pc
<zear> you write your sdl in the same manner
<zear> *your adl app\
<zear> *sdl
<zear> as for the toolchain, xiangfu linked you the howto already
<zear> it is a little complicated, i never mastered openwrt's toolchain
<zear> though i'm sure the guys here will help you with it if you get stucked at some point
<unclouded> there's a page on the wiki with a Hello-SDL example that shows how the OpenWRT toolchain can be used to compile your own SDL apps: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Compiling_for_the_NanoNote
<mth> larsc: jz_nand_ioremap_banks will remap the first num_banks banks, while those might not be the ones selected in the pdata
<mth> for example, in the pdata I have ".banks = { 3 }", then bank 3 should be remapped, while bank 1 will be
<mth> the resource name is correct, but bank_mem and bank_base are not
<larsc> ai see
<larsc> i
<lekernel> http://www.adciv.org/ ("advanced civilization")
<lekernel> ie economy of abundance through automation
<lekernel> today it's just a bunch of talking ofc
<urandom_> lekernel interesting that http://www.adciv.org/ but they mistake is that they forget about history, they try to reinvent something which have already have been an idea for ages: communism
<lekernel> yeah, but communism in its actual implementations was marked by technologic retards and lack of innovation
<urandom_> lekernel yeah but technologie wasnt really ready for communism at that time, also communism hasnt be implemented but socialism and socialism
<lekernel> is it ready today?
<lekernel> a lot of the stuff that the website presents isn't really working yet
<urandom_> partly yes
<urandom_> the problem is that capitalism blocks automatition in some cases cause human labor is very cheap in it
<urandom_> so we need socialism first
<urandom_> lekernel ever heared of cybersyn?
<lekernel> nope
<urandom_> very interesting stuff
<zear> urandom_, sounds like a hoax
<urandom_> a hoax?
<zear> only one reference link and the picture is obviously a part of a sci-fi movie scenography
<urandom_> no its not a hoax
<zear> well, the picture is not real, at least
<urandom_> its real i think
<zear> just look at that chairs
<zear> piece of plastic with fake geometric buttons
<zear> and no wires
<zear> also, the screens in the background look very fake
<urandom_> it says the room was futuristic, well doesnt mather, but cybersyn was real for sure, have read much about it
<zear> no, the picture looks like from startrek
<zear> according to the wiki the project was running in 1970-73
<zear> i don't think computers in that time were so advanced
<zear> it rather looks like a part of a sci-fi movie scenography
<urandom_> zear there is lot of stuff about it to read vom different authors, it is real for sure
<zear> i refuse to believe this photo depics a real control room of this computer
<urandom_> it is very impressive what they could do in 1970 so imagine what we could do now
<zear> Where are punched cards? Where is a lot of control leds?
<zear> yeah, hard to believe Chile could achieve such an advanced project in the 70s
<zear> i claim it fake :P
<zear> ok, that's a lot of text. And with references
<zear> but i still think the picture is not real
<zear> or it's at least a concept of a control room
<zear> but it doesn't look functional at all
<zear> especially with that silly geometric buttons
<urandom_> oh yeah it might just be concept, dont know, does it mather? cybersyn is real and cybersyn was fucking interesting and we should learn from it
<zear> yes it does, the photo depicts something that can not be real
<zear> *might not
<urandom_> ask here http://www.cybersyn.cl/ingles/contact.html for example if it is real if that is really brothering you so much
<zear> not bothering me that much to ask them ;)
<zear> just saying that to me the picture looks fake
<zear> this is how control rooms looked like: http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/jsc40/gallery/lores/S65-42424.jpg
<zear> now compare that to that silly chair-computers
<urandom_> yeah in the U,S and A but Chile might have done different, they wanted to try new concepts
<urandom_> i cant imagine it looked like this or at least very futuristic
<zear> but that chars don't make a sense
<zear> *chairs
<urandom_> well they look kind of cool, also from what i read about how the control room was desgined it might have looked like this
<urandom_> read "While the Cybersyn control room looked futuristic and modern,....."
<urandom_> "For example, the flat panel projection screens used a series of slide projectors located behind the wall that were attached to the armrests of the chairs. When you pushed a button on the armrest, it would change the slide on the screen."
<zear> urandom_, ok, maybe you're right and it is real
<zear> but that picture will always look fake to me ;)
<urandom_> i dont care if it looks fake for you, i wanted to talk about cybersyn not if pictures are fake but yeah
<zear> heh, don't mind me ;)
<wpwrak> (1973) punch cards ... hmm ... considering that Multics started already in 1964, the PDP-11 was introduced in 1970 and also Unix saw the light of day that year, i wouldn't be so dimissive about 1973 technology :)
<rafa> :)
<rafa> cheapear than nn
<rafa> december 1973
<wpwrak> rafa: even has rechargable batteries ! :)
<rafa> yeah, and you can return it within two weeks for a FULL refund
<rafa> nice
<wpwrak> and just three years later, this classic (i had one): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-30
<nebajoth> pfft
<nebajoth> I haz abacus.
<rafa> wpwrak: cool stuff :)
<rafa> nebajoth: you are too old
<rafa> :)
<nebajoth> and it communicates with another abacus in my other home with two cans and a string
<nebajoth> down which I shout modem sounds
<nebajoth> which is how real men do it.
<wpwrak> nebajoth: when i was young, the way to school was three hours through 2m of snow. uphill. both ways :)
<rafa> wpwrak: and now people complain about the half an hour bus trip from home to school
<Ornotermes> is there anyone working on a port of snes9x for openwrt?
<rafa> Ornotermes: do you need the sources?
<Ornotermes> no, i just wondered if someone was working on it, i use dingox binary but i dont like the keybinidings very much, and a native version cold maybe get a little better performance
<Ornotermes> dingux*
<rafa> Ornotermes: I asked you because we built a package for us. No the dingux version. So if you want those sources please tell us. For keys you will need to modify a few source code lines. No external config, sorry.
<Ornotermes> well, why not, i can give it a try :)
<rafa> the sources under sources/ :) .. the binary uses the fileselector
<Ornotermes> hope i manage to build it :P
<rafa> perhaps you can try the ipk package first.. no idea if that will be compatible
<Ornotermes> i try that first then :)
<Ornotermes> didn't work
<Ornotermes> (same errors on snes9x)
<rafa> Ornotermes: but you tried to install gtkedit, no snes
<rafa> ah.. you mean that packages are not compatible..
<rafa> sorry
<rafa> you will need to built your own snes9x then :)
<Ornotermes> yes
<Antaga> \_o<
<himito> hi
<Xakh> hey, you think it's possible to run quake mods on the nn version of quake?
<Xakh> i have this sweet one from my android device, i kinda wanna run it on nn, though, it gets better framerates
<urandom_> yeah seem like i finally got a working openwrt toolchain :)
<rejon> open source hardware is not copyleft hardware. :)
<calamarz> trying matchbox on debian... someone has a xorg.conf handy?
<wpwrak> rejon: you mean due to the lack of a replicator ?
<mth> larsc: actually jz_nand_ioremap_banks seems to be correct, but jz_nand_select_chip had me confused by using the variable "chipnr" for two different things
<mth> maybe that's even the bug: since nand->bank_base is already in chip order rather than bank order, there is no need for jz_nand_select_chip to apply the indirection again
<mth> JZ_NAND_CTRL_ASSERT_CHIP requires a 0-based bank nr instead of a chip nr though
<larsc> i do have a fix. i'll commit it tomorrow
<mth> ok, then I'll stop trying to fix it
<wolfspraul> larsc: hey there
<wolfspraul> Mirko Vogt told me you guys found out that the Sungale ID800WT picture frame has no drive IC at all?
<wolfspraul> how can this work... What does the drive IC actually do?
<wolfspraul> I am trying to visit Ilitek soon to learn more about drive ICs, but this news puzzled me a bit :-)
<larsc> there is a controller, but its config is static.
<wolfspraul> do you know who makes this controller?
<larsc> innolux i would guess
<larsc> on the other hand the one on the gpm module was made by ilitek. so i have no idea
<ezdagor> Anyone know what lowlevel LCD driver the NanoNote uses?
<kristianpaul> wait a min
<ezdagor> Thanks.
<ezdagor> The generic driver doesn't work. Graphical programs don't display the colors properly.
<kristianpaul> ezdagor: i think is here http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/
<kristianpaul> just digging