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<LunaVorax> Hello
<LunaVorax> I need some help with my Ben Nanonote
<LunaVorax> I'm trying to make a swapfile
<LunaVorax> I followed the instructions listed here http://www.slaanesh.net/2013/03/dosbox-074-v20-a320-open-dingux-and-ben.html but it fails when I enter swapon /swapfile
<LunaVorax> Does the Ben Nanonote have any known issues with swap and swapfiles?
<wpwrak> you can't do that. not sure if it's a general ubifs limitation.
<wpwrak> you could swap to an uSD card, though
<wpwrak> or you could swap to ram :)
<larsc> I think that's what the guide suggests
<larsc> to uSD
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<wpwrak> larsc: it begins with /swapfile. but yes, later it also talks about uSD
<wpwrak> works great in the xilinx case because the data that fills the RAM is extremely redundant and thus compresses well
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<LunaVorax> swap to uSD works
<LunaVorax> Now I have to understand why I can't get the volume under 33 with alsamixer
<LunaVorax> The nanonote is painfully loud
<LunaVorax> Isn't swap to RAM useless? Since swap is used to get over the lack of RAM?
<viric> there is zram
<viric> you can ask a block device stored compressed in RAM, and then put swap on it.
<wpwrak> LunaVorax: ZRAM is basically compression of the application's RAM. so if it uses the memory inefficiently, you can have a significant saving
<wpwrak> for example, urjtag stores data one bit per byte. the other 7 bits in each byte are zero. that data compresses very well :)
<wpwrak> (urjtag) at least in the configuration i used. different targets/drivers will be different.
<LunaVorax> That makes sense
<LunaVorax> Are nanonotes still available to purchace ?
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<LunaVorax> I was disapointed to see that tuxbrain decided to do something else that selling hardware.
<LunaVorax> Even though I can understand it
<roh> LunaVorax: well.. i dont think that it was a 'decicion' but rather 'no time anymore'
<wpwrak> or "no money anymore"
<roh> wpwrak: afaik no time... children or sth.?
<LunaVorax> Hum well anyway
<roh> so.. buy at pulster or whoever is left. they are happy for every sale too
<roh> for the customer it shouldnt matter from where to where in the eu stuff gets sent
<larsc> nanonote prices will skyrocket soon since the stock is going empty ;)
<roh> larsc: only with continuing demand
<roh> thats the lesson missing from economics class... demand is never linear or predictible, so dont calculate with winnings you'll only have if you meet it exactly enough
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<wpwrak> roh: pulster has the issue that he doesn't accept credit cards. this is an issue particularly for non-EU customer
<LunaVorax> Why should the prices skyrocket?
<LunaVorax> I *might* buy one, but if it gets over 100€ it's a no-go
<roh> wpwrak: well.. i dont either and i know why. much too much work, too less pay
<roh> hey wolfspraul
<wpwrak> roh: i know you hate credit cards :) but then you're not the last man standing when it comes to globally distributing qi-hw goodies
<roh> wpwrak: may be. but i know what extra work is is. and nobody of the cc customers wants to pay that
<wpwrak> so in a way the price has already risen. e.g., wiring money can be pretty expensive from some places
<wpwrak> and even impossible from others. where credit cards would work.
<roh> from my pov, accepting cc is atleast 10E/sale extra.. if you only do low-volume, much more.
<roh> i know of events presaling tickets with cc acceptance... it costs basically an extra worker + 600E/month handling fee for the cc-acceptance.
<wpwrak> what does that extra worker do ?
<roh> wpwrak: bookkeeping, back-bookings etc.
<roh> ah.. and a chargeback eats atleast 12-20E in fees alone.
<lekernel> wpwrak, if you want, you can do it for ehsm-2014, then you'll have a very precise idea of that crap ;)
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<roh> if you want to accept a cc in your store (not online-sales, but instead of cash in a store, so meaning swiping/putting into a terminal) thats costs you 15-20E/month for the terminals and about 2 euros/sale
<roh> and knowing all that.. yes, money transfers seem easy and cheap again ;) and cash rocks too.
<roh> combined with 'as long as both transacting ends are within the EU -> any transactions should be charge free by law'
<roh> thats what changed my thinking there.
<roh> if i'd need to set up international sales, i'd never try to do centralised shipping and selling again. distributors in every continent/business regions from the start. anything else wastes time and money you usually do not have
<roh> atleast thats what i know now :)
<wpwrak> lekernel: someone in argentina would be ideal for handling the financial transactions. at least there would be no trouble with chargebacks, because you can't transfer money out of the country anyway ;-)
<wpwrak> lekernel: and receiving inbound transfers means calling the bank for a transaction code, preparing a six page form, then going to the bank, signing it there (they need to authenticate the signature), and leaving a copy of your ID document. you get to do this for each transaction.
<roh> i know some people who moved from cc services to cc via paypal, because it was less hassle in the end. go figure what that means in the end
<wpwrak> lekernel: in other words, you can charge pretty hefty handling fees ;-)
<wpwrak> roh: data arrives at NSA half a second earlier ? :)
<roh> wpwrak: besides that. the broken support and stress of paypal was less work that dealing with the cc companies yourself. that bad.
<wpwrak> well, i can understand that they're careful. cc fraud of all sorts is rather attractive. procedural barriers also serve that purpose, even if indirectly.
<roh> sure. thats not the problem. the problem is: if you put the extra cost of accepting CC to the customers paying with those, payments with a CC are about 10-20E more expensive than cash or bank transaction sales, seen from the seller.
<roh> just: how to tell that to the customer in a way that he still wants to buy?
<lekernel> wpwrak, there must be truly amazing sides to Argentina since you're staying there :)
<lekernel> German bureaucracy is already a bit annoying to me. last funny episode was filling in a chemical weapon declaration for buying absolute alcohol...
<wpwrak> ;-))
<wpwrak> bureaucracy here is awful. kafka had no idea.
<larsc> keeps people busy ;)
<wpwrak> well, 95% of that is generally waiting.
<wpwrak> but yes, it very efficiently keeps people from being productive
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