samth changed the topic of #racket to: Racket v7.6 has been released: https://blog.racket-lang.org/2020/02/racket-v7-6.html -- Racket -- https://racket-lang.org -- https://pkgs.racket-lang.org -- Paste at http://pasterack.org
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<bremner> OK, the macro is a distraction. I guess it has to do with tail calls? http://pasterack.org/;((%22k%22%20.%20%22(188225%201%2010806880)%22))
<bremner> err.
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<bremner> I guess it's arguably a feature since it tells you the tail recursion is working. But still, it can make things hard to debug
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<sarna> is there any naming convention for global values?
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<selimcan> UPPERCASE?
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<srandon111> guys i learned basics of racket and wanted to try another scheme... and i felt that it was waaay more difficult
<srandon111> because of the docs...
<srandon111> like guile...
<srandon111> so is racket significantly simpler than other schemes?
<jcowan> no, but it has had a lot more grad students to work on documentation (and even then, there are many dark and dim corners)
<srandon111> jcowan, i see
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<lexi-lambda> jcowan: I don’t think very much Racket documentation is written by grad students
<sarna> srandon111: you can try chicken scheme, it has a big (for a scheme) community and they should have better docs than guile
<sarna> they’re also very friendly :)
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<sarna> their doc page: https://api.call-cc.org/5/doc/
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<r3x5> chicken is indeed nice, but the docs were very confusing for me, specially after the 4 to 5 migration, several times I was reading the docs and trying something that didn't work just to later realize I was reading the v4 docs instead of v5, and sometimes I coulnd't even find the thing I wanted on the v5 docs
<jcowan> Not everything has been migrated: it's done on demand and as people have time to work on it. Most migrations are easy, but if nobody asks, nothing is done.
<r3x5> yep of course, not complaining or anything, more of a heads up to someone who will try it
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<jcowan> I found http://wiki.call-cc.org/porting-c4-to-c5 pretty good, and the chicken-users list is *extremely* helpful if you run into problems, so migrating without that much experience is a thing.
<samth> jcowan: the documentation that srandon111 read is mostly likely written by Matthew Flatt (the guide and reference) and Matthias Felleisen (HtDP and the HtDP docs)
<samth> neither of whom have been grad students in a while
<jcowan> Fair enough. I was mostly thinking of racket's random packages for this and that
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