samth changed the topic of #racket to: Racket v7.8 has been released: https://blog.racket-lang.org/2020/08/racket-v7-8.html -- Racket -- https://racket-lang.org -- https://pkgs.racket-lang.org -- Paste at http://pasterack.org
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<greghendershott> winny: I've gotten bitten by that. I guess the good news it's an expansion-time error, not run-time.
<greghendershott> The error message could be clearer.
<greghendershott> One pattern is `(define (blah-person v) (match-define (person first last) v) ___)` -- I just name it `v`, figuring the context is clear.
<greghendershott> Or use match-lambda to name it nothing at all. :)
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<winny> greghendershott; I decided to try out some alternate naming conventions, not sure if I like it, but using a camelcase for the struct definition and the normal kebab-case for the instances of the object leaves me not thinking about the problem
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<greghendershott> Yes I've also tried that, or actually Upper-Kebab-Case like Typed Racket.
<greghendershott> I decided I don't love it because imported structs don't use that convention.
<greghendershott> And I don't care enough to `rename-in` the world. :)
<greghendershott> So after bouncing around a few of these ideas I've settled on "generic" names like `v`, or no-names via `match-lambda`, mostly.
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* dustyweb rolls up sleeves
* dustyweb needs to implement an ODT scribble renderer in 3 days
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<selimcan> :D
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<selimcan> org mode is on my todo list, but most likely someone else will do that before I get to it
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<dzoe> Will the PPA be upgraded to 7.8?
<bremner> uh. is it really behind Debian, that's surprising.
<dzoe> Not complaining here, I am mostly using my own builds anyway - but I bumped into it just now and thought it might be worth reporting somewhere.
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<dzoe> Oh really 7.8 in testing :)
<dzoe> That's really surprising combination of versions in Ubuntu and Debian.
<bremner> 7.8 is in ubuntu groovy also, but not in 20.4 / focal
<dzoe> I like to stick to LTS versions because of my work projects.
<dzoe> Basically while compiling 7.9.0.2 I tried 7.7 from PPA to run my code and fl->fx behaves differently (Matthew has fixed this over the summer).
<dzoe> Otherwise I wouldn't probably notice.
<oaguy1> Ah, is there a "preferred" way to install racket? Newbie here and I went straight for the PPA
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<dzoe> PPA just works. Unless you are dealing with some weird low-level stuff, you probably won't notice the difference.
<dzoe> And I guess that when bremner tells samth, PPA will get updated to 7.8 as well.
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<jhemann> I can't get my OSX Catalina machine to open a snapshot version of Racket I downloaded today. It looks an awful lot like a permissioning/code-signing issue. How do I work around this?
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<dzoe> dustyweb: goblins do not work with CS?
<dzoe> Hmmm... maybe it is just some pulled packages for terminal-phase.
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<dustyweb> dzoe: I'm guessing it's the raart dependencies?
<dustyweb> not sure
<dustyweb> I haven't tried on cs yet actually!
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<bremner> dzoe: I think asumu manages the PPA, but I don't think they're in the channel.
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<samth> bremner: i sent him an email
<bremner> cool.
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