samth changed the topic of #racket to: Racket v7.8 has been released: https://blog.racket-lang.org/2020/08/racket-v7-8.html -- Racket -- https://racket-lang.org -- https://pkgs.racket-lang.org -- Paste at http://pasterack.org
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<Don8742> Do you accept prompts from your Operating System (mine: Ubuntu) to update the racket version?
<Don8742> Or do you update your Racket version at between program development phases, a program developed with racket.
<Don8742> Or do you update your Racket version between program development phases, a program developed with racket.
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<Don8742> Am I correct in thinking that to resolve some issues that result from installing a new version of Racket, that I should find and remove my compiled directories so that Racket will recompile them with the latest installed version?
<Don8742> Seems to me that it is best to only install a new racket version when I am not in the middle of developing a project. Do you agree?
<Don8742> Hello? Why am I not seeing ongoing conversations by others?
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<Don8742> Why don't I see a list of conversations?
<Don8742> If I ask a question about racket here, am I likely to get a reply?
<grym> Don8742: IRC doesn't persist a log. This is a fairly quiet channel but if you ask questions and lurk you'll usually get a response eventually
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<Don8742> Thanks grym!
<Don8742> When I am in the middle of developing a program I don't want to install a new version of the Racket program at that time but occassionaly fall for the Operating System prompt offering to install an update. Then I have to sort out the problem of compiler conflicts. Do you just install updated versions when you want them rather than when prompted?
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<bremner> How often is this a problem for you? For me racket updates are every 3 to 6 months
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<Don8742> I'm guessing that is about the same for me.
<bremner> OK. I guess I don't have much helpful advice in this scenario. I just live with the updates.
<bremner> I do have a bit more control because I happen to package Racket for the OS I use, but that's not a solution that generalizes.
<Don8742> I've just been reading up on Package Management in Racket so I guess that I should just take the offer from the operating system as a notification that a new version of racket is available - then disregard it until I am ready to make the update.
<bremner> I guess if you installed directly from racket-lang.org, the OS would not prompt you for updates
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<Don8742> Yes, I was just thinking along those lines too but I usually don't want to update for a couple of years. So it seems I must just remember not to update racket when the O.S. prompts me to.
<Don8742> After installing an updated version of Racket I experience some issues - probably just compiler conflicts. Should I reinstall the previous version of racket or should I resolve the compiler conflicts? And is the only way to resolve the compiler conflicts this: find all my instances of directories: /compiled and deleting them? This forces racket to
<Don8742> rebuild the deleted /compiled directories.
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<Don8742> Hey, bocaneri, have you got a question or comment?
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<Don8742> Hey, rekahsoft, have you got a question or comment?
<bremner> FYI IRC users generally consider it a bit rude to be pinged without previous interaction
<Don8742> Why are people logging into this #racket channel and then doing nothing. What is the point of logging in other than to post a question or comment?
<grym> or at least very confusing
<grym> Don8742: welcome to IRC!
<rekahsoft> Don8742: I join the racket channel by default from emacs. Is this a problem? Apologies, didn't mean to upset you.
<bremner> Don8742: people check the channel when they have time, and answer if they know something relevant
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<bremner> because IRC doesn't keep backlog without extra software, there is incentive to stay logged in
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<Don8742> Thanks for the feedback on IRC. I just popped out to read more about it. I certainly don't want to offend anyone. Looking back at some of my questions above and the responses that followed, I can see that 1 respondent thought I was being critical of them. I can see that if I add the context - that I a complete newbie to IRC's, and avoid addressing
<Don8742> people by their handle, I would then come across as mannerly. Maybe as my wife says - maybe I am behaving autisticaly.
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<grym> Don8742: no worries!
<Don8742> Looks like I will be happier if I start using raco pkg catalog-copy to create a snapshot of a package name and package source.
<Don8742> Better yet, it looks like I should be using raco pkg catalog-archive ... which takes a snapshot of the catalog and all package sources to not depend on the original sources.
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<Don8742> I would sure like to have a conversation with someone about packages. I understand and use them to some extent but I'd like to become much more conversant and comfortable using them. I'm wary of using them more without first getting a better understanding. Can anyone recommend some safe way of working with them?
<Don8742> How do you resolve compiler conflicts after installing a new version of Racket? The method I have been using is to find all my instances of directories called: /compiled and deleting them? This forces racket to rebuild them when my program attempts to load an associated module.
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<bremner> Don8742: does "raco make" help?
<Don8742> Thanks. I'll look into "raco make".
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<yurb> Anyone using Racket on NixOS?
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<bremner> I remember questions about it previously, so literal man says yes. But I'm not personally using nix
<yurb> bremner: good to know I'm not alone anyway :)
<yurb> trying to figure out the most "nix'y" way to use Racket CS
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<yurb> I have a crazy idea of building a hybrid Python+Racket ecommerce web application
<yurb> Putting the core business logic into a racket core that would only provide a REST api and speak JSON
<yurb> And then building all the user-facing HTML-generating shell in Python/Django
<yurb> And it seems like building it in racket cs is logical
<yurb> since it will be the default in the near future
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<dzoe> yurb: I am running one big project that has Racket as REST backend and React.js frontend (served by Racket's web-server :) ).
<dzoe> You won't notice the difference between BC and CS when it comes to web development.
<yurb> dzoe: wow, great to hear that!
<yurb> I was inspired by both the RacketCon talk and Bogdan Popa's video about his framework
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<yurb> (the video is not right on https://koyoweb.org/ )
<yurb> *now
<yurb> RacketCon talk by Brian Adkins
<yurb> dzoe: were you blogging about it (by any chance)?
<dzoe> yurb: good question :D, I'll have a look at our blog (I vaguely remember writing about it)
<yurb> dzoe: if you link to your blog, I'd be happy to check it out anyway :)
<yurb> or is it the Racket blog?
<dzoe> gimme a sec
<dzoe> So nope, just about TDS ODBC problems ...
<dzoe> Maybe later this year...
<yurb> looking forward!
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