apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.0.0-p247: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p448) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<zenspider> WOOT!
<zenspider> hrm... anyone remember a tool that makes a duplicate tree of a directory structure but symlinks all the files over?
<zenspider> YAY! 4.008 sigma!
<erikh> zenspider: can't rsync do that/
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<zenspider> hrm... maybe?
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<erikh> nope, nevermind
<zenspider> oh. that's the backup dir thing? that's hardlinks... but that should be fine too
<zenspider> that might work
<erikh> oh!
<erikh> if you want hardlinks, sec.
<zenspider> either will work
<erikh> I'll give you a script I use
<chris2> zenspider: man lndir
<erikh> perl though
<chris2> from x11
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<chris2> for hardlinks cp -rl?
<zenspider> chris2: I thought it was lntree. that sounds right. unfortunately I don't have it or in my pkg mgr
<zenspider> no cp -l either ... stupid bsd :/
<chris2> no gcp? :P
<zenspider> I think rsync with --link-dest will work
<erikh> yeah, that's what I use
<chris2> but hardlinks
<zenspider> chris2: ?
<chris2> rsync cant make symlinks
<erikh> fwiw
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<erikh> handles mac/linux/solaris
<erikh> atm
<erikh> actually, should have run like 15 minutes ago on about 10 hosts
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<chris2> i have a similar tool called rdumpfs on github
<erikh> yeah, rdiff-backup works similarly IIRC
<erikh> but config files
<erikh> bleh.
<erikh> I just template this thing with chef.
<chris2> the readme of rdumpfs explains why its better than everything else ;)
<erikh> WTFPL?
<zenspider> hrm... can't use --link-dest or --copy-dest with the source dir to force everything to be a hard link. :/
<erikh> or is it using like aufs or some cow system?
<mdedetrich> does anyone know if there is a shortcut for super
<zenspider> shortcut?
<chris2> erikh: no, just hardlinks to old versions
<zenspider> it's only 5 chars long
<mdedetrich> to just pass the method arguments used by the caller
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<erikh> chris2: oh ha
<zenspider> mdedetrich: super is the shortcut
<chris2> zenspider: the paths are taken relative to the destination iirc
<zenspider> ah
<zenspider> grrr.... I think I'm too tired to figure this out. needs a skinnier manpage
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<zenspider> oh! there it goes! just have to delete it to ensure everything hits
<zenspider> thanks guys
<mdedetrich> zenspider: ah your right, so calling just super will automatically pass the arguments of the method its contained within
<zenspider> yup
<zenspider> INCLUDING modifications you've made to the vars before you call super. buyer beware
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<zenspider> (which I think is awesome... but can be scary)
<mdedetrich> awesome, learn something new every day!
<zenspider> sanity check, this look ok?
<zenspider> rm -rf gauntlet18.noindex/; rsync -rl --link-dest ../gauntlet.noindex gauntlet.noindex/ gauntlet18.noindex
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<erikh> yeah, that's about right
<zenspider> thanks... I'm getting dingy and crosseeyed as the sun comes up
<zenspider> I should sleep
<zenspider> too warm tho
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<erikh> yeah, I tried, then had a dream about the mission district and genocide by the military
<erikh> that woke me up
<erikh> fucking weird ass dreams lately.
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<zenspider> I wish I could finish this... but I have about 3 hours of gauntlet runs to do before I can release
<erikh> automate it; sleep; profit
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<zenspider> it's _mostly_ automated
<zenspider> g'night
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<erikh> night.
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<scholar01> What's a cross 1.8, 1.9, and 2.0 way to xor a string with another string? "cat"[0] returns different things, and "c".ord isn't in 1.8.
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<andrewvos> How do I map Ctrl+Shift+P in vim?
<andrewvos> C-S-P?
<andrewvos> That seems like it would map Ctrl + S + P. Like, S instead of Shift?
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<andrewvos> OMG wait
<andrewvos> Fail
<andrewvos> C-P will work.
<andrewvos> I can't believe I asked that.
<andrewvos> whitequark: Can we remove this from the logs?
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<Mon_Ouie> scholar01: Integer#ord is in 1.8
<Mon_Ouie> So "cat"[0].ord is the same thing
<Mon_Ouie> (if the encoding is set to binary at least)
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<matti> Mon_Ouie: Ohai
<Mon_Ouie> 'alut matti
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<dernise> Can someone tell me why do I get this exception ? (deadlock detected https://gist.github.com/dernise/4990a3f4932b61014dce ) If I remove line 40 I don't have this error. Futhermore, everything works, there's an exception but it works? I'd like to know where this exception come from.
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<heftig> >> a = Mutex.new; b = Mutex.new; Thread.start { a.lock; sleep 1; b.lock }; b.lock; sleep 1; a.lock
<eval-in> heftig => (https://eval.in/35869)
<heftig> bleh, eval.in doesn't do thread
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<MartynKeigher> hey all...having a twitter issue in Ruby....anyone here??
<jMCg> what, exactly, does ruby do while it's telling me it's telling me it's Installing RDoc documentation for.. ? I'm reminded of http://users.owt.com/lazrchet/humor/install.htm
<MartynKeigher> i am able to get tweets that include a @username IN the tweet itsefl...but what i am after is the @username TIMELINE, NOT where the @username is in the body of the tweet.
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<Mon_Ouie> Well, it's building the RDoc documentation for the gem you installed and placing it in some folder
<pellis> hello all
<pellis> i have an awesome idea
<MartynKeigher> hey
<pellis> you guys want to do a collaborative bundler install?
<pellis> it is a bit silly but funny
<MartynKeigher> i just wanna get my tweets to work! lol
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<pellis> MartynKeigher, ok i'll start.
<MartynKeigher> i am able to get tweets that include a @username IN the tweet itsefl...but what i am after is the @username TIMELINE, NOT where the @username is in the body of the tweet.
<jMCg> Mon_Ouie: I bet that's the reason why the VM just died :\
<MartynKeigher> can u hold that thought...for 5 mins....just need to swap laundry over.
<MartynKeigher> ;)
<MartynKeigher> brb
<pellis> bundle install
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<pothibo> When you require a file in a relative folder, does the folder name by default becomes a module? I'm pretty sure this only happen in rails but I want to make sure
<Mon_Ouie> It doesn't
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<pothibo> Thanks a lot, I'm digging in rails and ruby spec and the two get mixed in my head.
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<erikh> best to learn ruby before you touch rails, but I get there's only so much time in the day
<erikh> rails does a lot of surprising things when you switch back to ruby.
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<pothibo> erikh: I have been a rails dev for quite some time now, I'm just digging back to understand more about how things are glued together
<pothibo> and yes, it does
<MartynKeigher> any idea how do grab a twitter @username timeline?
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<MartynKeigher> my current rb job is set to show the username if its PART of the BODY of the tweet...not from the user account. this thing ha had me going nuts.
<MartynKeigher> *has had me
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<pothibo> while I'm at it, I have another question, autoload(constant, file) is a bit weird to understand, it says it requires the file when constant is accessed the first time. so that means require(:MyConstant, some/file/unrelated/to/MyConstant.rb) would be required even if MyConstant is unrelated?
<erikh> pothibo: ah
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<pothibo> MartynKeigher: using firehose?
<MartynKeigher> here is my current rb file. http://pastebin.com/4hRHpGby
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<MartynKeigher> u will see on line 17 it says twitter.search. i have changed it for twitter.user and twitter.username and both dont work
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<MartynKeigher> firehose?? yeah..u lost me... not very versed in ruby im afraid. just doing what i can.
<pellis> what's this whole binstubs thing with rails 4?
<MartynKeigher> ...?
<pothibo> it's in rbenv, no?
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<pothibo> pellis: ^^
<pellis> i'm not sure, is it an rbenv or rails4 thing?
<pellis> i mean i know what binstubs is, but i don't understand why it is suddenly under the spotlight and suddenly the "right thing to do"
<pothibo> I don't know if rails4 does something like binstubs, but rbenv has been using the concept for quite some time now
<pothibo> pellis: because your whole system is not bound to a single version
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<pellis> but bundle exec solves that
<pothibo> it's 2 different thing IMO
<pothibo> bundle exec run the binary in your bundle
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<pothibo> stub feel like it'S always at the same place while it underneath, it may move
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<pothibo> pellis: did I make sense eto you?
<pellis> not really, sorry
<pothibo> hahaok
<pellis> from what i read, binstubs are faster than bundle exec
<pothibo> pellis: Presume, ruby is in /usr/local/bin/ruby
<pothibo> pellis: you have a bundle in ~/project
<pothibo> for the sake of this example, project is a rails project (Uses rake)
<pothibo> bundle install --path=.bundle will install all your gems in ~/.project/.bundle/
<pothibo> pellis: Running bundle exec rake -T will uses ~/.project/.bundle/../bin/rake binary. Running rake -T will run your global gem rake. You understand so far?
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<pellis> yep
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<pothibo> pellis: ok what the binstubs does is it replaces your $PATH so when you type "rake" in your console, instead of looking for your global gem, it will run an abstract ruby program. It will look for the latest installed version of rake and pass all the arguments to that rake program it found along with it's parameters
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<pothibo> so when you type rake, you have no idea where it is, what version it is. Binstub makes decisions for you (Based on what you installed on your system)
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<pellis> ok but the binstub should contain a bundler/setup
<pothibo> pellis: binstub is a concept
<pothibo> that rbenv uses to launch ruby programs
<pothibo> because you can set different ruby version in different project on the same system, it needs a stub so when you call rake, it returns a different version of rake depending on where you are in your system
<pothibo> rbenv handles this list of installed programs (Like bundle does)
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<pothibo> reason why rbenv is faster than bundle is an implementation detail. One tries to find gems/binary as fast as possible while the other tries to keep a consistent version
* pothibo 's essay is over
<pellis> ok i think i got it
<pellis> so rbenv is less safe
<pellis> because it may pick up irrelevant versions
<pothibo> both do not care about safety, one cares about delivery the other, about consistency
<pothibo> it won't
<pothibo> rbenv is as safe as bundle
<pothibo> rbenv doesn't handle gems, it handles ruby version
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<pothibo> bundle handle gems and their versions
<pothibo> you cannot set different ruby versions on a system with bundle
<pothibo> and you can't install different gems on the same ruby version with rbenv
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<pothibo> Let's summarize: Use rbenv for ruby version. Use bundle for gems versions per project.
<pellis> okies
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<KINGSABRI> hello every body
<KINGSABRI> I need to find th none repeated elements in 2 arrays
<KINGSABRI> a1 & a2 # finds the repeated ones
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<yorickpeterse> HERRRROOO
<yorickpeterse> $HOME sweet $HOME
<andrewvos> $GOHOME
<andrewvos> Is literally what I just added to my .zshrc :(
<andrewvos> Wait, GOPATH actually.
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<KINGSABRI> I need to find th none repeated elements in 2 arrays
<KINGSABRI> a1 & a2 # finds the repeated ones
<KINGSABRI> repeated means the not common between the 2 arrays
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<TTilus> (a1|a2)-(a1&a2)
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<TTilus> or use Set and proper operations
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<yorickpeterse> Also
<yorickpeterse> I hereby coin "Plane driven development"
<andrewvos> Where you write code on a large flat surface.
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<TTilus> reminds me of "a single pole in a complex plane"
<TTilus> s/single/simple/
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<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: No, plane as in the flying thing
<yorickpeterse> Since that's where I get most of my work done apparently
<andrewvos> Yes yorickpeterse, I know you meant a plane.
<yorickpeterse> I should make a movie called "Rubyists on a plane"
<yorickpeterse> it's funny because the plane would not deal with concurrency properly :>
<pellis> andrewvos, so you do both Go and Ruby?
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<yorickpeterse> oh man I missed my thinkpad
<yorickpeterse> "THIS IS MY UGLY THINKPAD, THERE ARE MANY LIKE IT BUT THIS ONE IS MINE" etc
<yorickpeterse> I'm also sure IRC missed my random messages
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<andrewvos> pellis: Almost, I installed it and then gave up when I started digging through the code.
<andrewvos> pellis: Was trying to work out why zeus won't pass CTRL+C to my cucumber process.
<andrewvos> Anyway, so no. I don't do go.
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<pellis> andrewvos, ah. i just used zeus for the first time after a long while with spork
<pellis> it's awesome
<andrewvos> pellis: You run cukes with it?
<andrewvos> pellis: And if so, can you CTRL+C out of `zeus cucumber` easily?
<pellis> no, i gave up cucumber. i think the "product defines the features blah blah" bullshit is over now. we can get back to coding
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<pellis> i've grown up. i've become old. and product managers don't write features.
<andrewvos> Do you do any functional testing?
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<pellis> yes, i do what you do with cucumber, just with rspec all the way
<andrewvos> Oh cool
<andrewvos> So you use capybara?
<pellis> i used to be a cucumber fanboy. but again, that was two years ago
<pellis> yes
<andrewvos> So does zeus kill rspec when you're running capybara with a @javascript test?
<pellis> well i just started using zeus on a fresh project :)
<pellis> for everything else i still use spork
<andrewvos> Hmm, if you find this happens can you let me know?
<pellis> yep
<andrewvos> If you manage to remember.
<andrewvos> Thanks
<pellis> ctrl-c not working is usually a symptom of someone catching Exception instead of StandardError (or bare) in ruby
<andrewvos> Well, zeus is mostly written on go.
<andrewvos> in*
<pellis> yep, i've noticed. so what are you experiencing exactly?
<andrewvos> Cukes run, I see a fail so I press CTRL+C.
<pellis> zeus rspec works fine for me, but i'm not doing any js yet
<andrewvos> But instead of stopping at the end of the scenario, it runs all of them
<pellis> ah. so you're trying to stop it mid-running
<andrewvos> I get some text that says "Stopping>>>" or something, and that's it
<pellis> can you simulate that with just a plain long test? like a sleep?
<andrewvos> Works when I just `bundle exec cucumber` though
<pellis> i'm going to try that..
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<yorickpeterse> hm, according to my cat my arm is tasty
<yorickpeterse> or he just really missed me
<yorickpeterse> (he keeps licking it)
<andrewvos> Maybe your arm smells of fish.
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<yorickpeterse> well, I was sitting next to this incredibly big woman who kept smelling her own arms in the plane
<yorickpeterse> so maybe
<yorickpeterse> as in, she was at least 3 times my size
<yorickpeterse> wohooo, ruby-lint works on Ruby 2.0
<andrewvos> pellis: So, when I CTRL+C zeus kills the thin server that is running, but it doesn't kill the firefox window spawned by selenium.
<andrewvos> Which is strange
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<andrewvos> There are three process in play here I guess. Thin, Selenium and Cucumber.
<pellis> andrewvos, i see. well i do phantomjs usually.. not dealt with selenium for a while now
<andrewvos> Why it would kill the process that gets spawned second is beyond me.
<pellis> also i just bumped into a zeus bug in 0.13.3, it might be worth it to get the 'pre' version
<andrewvos> I tried the pre
<pellis> yikes. sorry mate
<pellis> might be worth it to try a different driver
<andrewvos> Yeah
<andrewvos> Have tried chromedriver but that just flat out doesn't work
<pellis> phantomjs?
<pellis> and casper
<andrewvos> It didn't work for some reason. Can't remember why.
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<andrewvos> Yeah might give that a try. Thanks
<pellis> sure
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<yorickpeterse> WOOP WOOP, ruby-lint also works on rbx-head
<yorickpeterse> NOICE
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<yorickpeterse> whitequark: ^ this means parser also works on these rubies
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<yorickpeterse> oh, you already test against those
<yorickpeterse> lel
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<yorickpeterse> aaand it works on jruby too
<yorickpeterse> man, this is a good thing to come home back to
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<crankharder> anyone know if I Can set the user of a cap task per-task ?
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<MouseTheLuckyDog> At the start of a program I do loriginal=local_variables then later I do lvar=local-variables-loriginal and get an empty list. I checfk loriginal and see that all the local variables even the ones defined later are in loriginal.
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