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<mads->
I'm trying to write a test extension for Ruby. First, where do I get the ruby.h header in ubuntu, if anyone knows? And the Makefile I get from extconf.rb is rather big but doesn't seem to have anything to do when I just type "make". It says "make: nothing to be done for 'all'"
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<bitops>
mads-: usually you have to install a "devel" package to pick up the headers
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<bitops>
and then I believe re-run extconf.rb and make
<bitops>
that is going off of rusty memory though
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<mads->
bitops: Seemed to be just that. 4th time I did ruby extconf.rb and a decent Makefile came out of it
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<shevy>
yeah, the debian based distributions are notorious for crippling packages and then forcing the user to deal with the incomplete mess
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<bitops>
mads-: what shevy said, I had an OK experience on CentOS...you still have to shave a few yaks if you're compiling Ruby from source.
<bitops>
openssl I'm looking in your directioN!
<shevy>
what is CentOS based on? debian? fedora?
<shevy>
yeah openssl is annoying
<bitops>
shevy: RHEL
<bitops>
it is basically the open source community grabbing the source files that Red Hat distributes and re-packaging them
<bitops>
they just remove any references to Red Hat
<shevy>
you have to use ./config ... and in the earlier openssl it always wanted to install into /usr/local/openssl no matter what prefix I tried to use (or I was too dumb? But other GNU autoconfigure packages always honoured --prefix=/usr, openssl not )
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<maletor>
Can anybody do this fancy regex in one line?
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<pablo_>
maletor, which 20?
<pablo_>
ahhh ok
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<pablo_>
Date.parse pr[0][0].scan(/Assignments for ((?:\d{1,2}-){2}\d{2})/)[0][0].sub('-','/').sub('-','/20')
<pablo_>
maletor, a bit uglier...
<pablo_>
maletor, or: Date.parse pr.tr('-','/').scan(/Assignments for ((?:\d{1,2}\/){2})(\d{2})/)[0].join('20')
<mads->
I want to code web with ruby. Apart from rails what is good?
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<Telmo>
mads: sinatra and rack
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<dagnachewa>
hi all
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<dagnachewa>
I have installed gems on my pc and my laptop , is it normal to have more gems on my pc ? when I do a ls | wc -l , I get 178 for pc and 150 for my laptop and am sure to have installed the same gems from the ruby toolbox
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<shevy>
dagnachewa why dont you copy the gems to a USB device and transfer that
<shevy>
you can find all *.gem files in /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/cache/
<shevy>
copy that and use that
<shevy>
you can install a local gem via "gem install treetop-1.4.10.gem"
<shevy>
and you can write a short ruby code that does batch-installing of all gems ... Dir['some/path/to/your/gems/**.gem'].each {|file| system 'gem install '+file}
<shevy>
or something like that
<wroathe>
I'm relatively new to ruby... How is passing a block into a method in ruby and yielding the result any different than calling a different method from the outer scope?
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<shevy>
wait what
<shevy>
call a different method from the outer scope?
<wroathe>
Parent scope I mean
<shevy>
you must define that in your method right?
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<shevy>
whereas your block can be any arbitrary code
<wroathe>
So it's an anonymous function?
<shevy>
if you can, it would be nice if you could make a mini-code showing what you mean with calling a different method from the outer scope
<wroathe>
It was a badly worded question
<shevy>
I dont even know what is an anonymous function. foobar() { call_this(); call_that() }
<shevy>
wroathe basically what the blocks allow you to do is be more flexible than you would be if you would not have them
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<mrtrousers>
Hello
<mrtrousers>
Im trying to run: rails server But it doesnt start a server it makes a skeleton named server.. Im using ubuntu.. Any advice?
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<davidcelis>
mrtrousers: try #rubyonrails
<mrtrousers>
OK
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<Winston_smith>
@find examples
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<HardyBoy>
Hai friends... Have a small doubt .... how to check if a variable which has date value in it is empty or not? Suppose i have date=Time.now them can I do date.empty? or date.nil? or date.blank?
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<HardyBoy>
whic one will be the best?
<fullsailor>
date.nil?
<fullsailor>
Object#blank? is a ActiveSupport extension
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<vajrapani666>
How exactly do I add a specific flag for a gem in my gem file …. e.g. --with-mysql-lib= ……. ?
<fullsailor>
I'm not sure that you can.
<fullsailor>
You should gem install those before running bundle install
<fullsailor>
It could be supported now.
<vajrapani666>
I found some documentation suggesting i can do it with bundler config
<vajrapani666>
that's what i've been trying .. its just not picking my flags up
<vajrapani666>
ahh.. its picking them up.. its just not working
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<deryl>
well gem won't. bundler passes that in when it builds the gem
<deryl>
ahh
<deryl>
wrong flag9s)?
<deryl>
s/9/\(/
<vajrapani666>
looks like extconf.rb was executed with "/System/Library/Frameworks/Ruby.framework/Versions/1.8/usr/bin/ruby extconf.rb --with-zmq-dir=/usr/local/Cellar/zeromq/2.1.11/lib"
<vajrapani666>
(I mentioned mysql because it is a more familiar use case, i'm trying to install zmq gemand get it to use brew's zmq location)
<deryl>
its been a bit, but i think you added too much. remove the '/lib' part
<deryl>
it looks under the dir for the headers and the libs
<deryl>
no headers under the lib dir itself correct?
<vajrapani666>
ahhh… let me try that
<vajrapani666>
i suppose i should actually look at what's in those dirs eh...
<deryl>
and you might *have* to add the "" around the path
<boianmiahilov>
means that my ActionController::Base.relative_url_root is nil
<Guest47735>
yup
<boianmiahilov>
i understand now
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<vajrapani666>
Ah.h… I can get it to install if i do export arch flags = x86_64 !
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<nobitanobi>
hihi
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<fullsailor>
Howdy
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<hatorade>
anyone know how to use regex to change all the SPACES in a word to hyphens, without changing the end line character? if I used gsub(/[\s]/), '-') on "Hello World" I keep getting "Hello-World-". Anyone know what's up?
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<rippa>
gsub(/\ /), '-')
<rippa>
hatorade: ^
<rippa>
or just
<rippa>
eh, wait
<rippa>
what's up with parentheses
<rippa>
gsub(' ', '-')
<hatorade>
was using regex i guess
<sgronblo>
yeah \s is "whitespace" in general which includes \n
<hatorade>
oh
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<hatorade>
i see
<sgronblo>
you could chomp the line first
<hatorade>
i stripped it…shouldn't that work?
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<maasha>
møjn
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<Hanmac>
trivol: are your string questions answerd?
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<sgronblo>
Can you give an argument to next?
<Hanmac>
you mean the keyword "next"?
<banisterfiend>
sgronblo: yes you can
<banisterfiend>
sgronblo: and it exits the block with that value
<banisterfiend>
sgronblo: proc { next "hanmac is a silly german rascal" }.call #=> "hanmac is a silly german rascal"
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<sgronblo>
banisterfiend: ah thanks
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<sgronblo>
This code for backtracefilter in 1.8.7 is kinda unclear
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<sgronblo>
Poorly named variables
<banisterfiend>
sgronblo: naming is hard, "LET"S GO SHOPPPING"
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<hardyboy>
Hai friends... need a small help
<sgronblo>
Yeah but they could have tried harder than this
<hardyboy>
https://gist.github.com/1646568 here how i can i check if the community with same name exists or not before creating a new community ie community.save! ??
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<hardyboy>
it should be compared with community.title pls help me i am new to ruby
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<hardyboy>
ple help me anyone :(
<CodyMaverick>
i advice you to compare with id, not title, cause id must be unique
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<Amorsen>
If I run a command with %x I get a long string back.
<Amorsen>
Then I run each_line on it to get an iterator
<Amorsen>
Sorry, lines
<Amorsen>
Now I want to do something with the first line (header) and iterate over the rest
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<Amorsen>
I can easily get the first line with .next, but I can't iterate over the rest except with .next, and .next ends in an exception when I run out of data
<Amorsen>
Obviously I can catch that exception, but there must be a better way to do this
<a_a_g>
Amorsen: you could split the string with str.spli("\n") and get an array of strings
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<a_a_g>
str.split
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<Amorsen>
I could, but it's an awful lot of output to go through twice
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<CH3COOH>
>but I can't iterate over the rest except with .next
<CH3COOH>
why?
<Amorsen>
CH3COOH: How else can I do it?
<a_a_g>
what do you mean by go through twice?
<Amorsen>
CH3COOH: .each doesn't work, it gives me the first line again. Then I'd need to check every iteration whether I'm in the first line
<a_a_g>
Amorsen: array.delete to remove the first line
<Amorsen>
a_a_g: split would copy the whole string into an array. lines hopefully does it without actually copying.
<a_a_g>
the original string will be discarded if you dont keep a reference to it
<CH3COOH>
how time-critical it is anyway?
<CH3COOH>
is it bottleneck?
<Amorsen>
Not that time critical, it just seems like something which must be a reasonably common task
<Amorsen>
That it would be nice to handle relatively efficiently
<a_a_g>
if you do each_line, its going to do similar computations as split("\n")
<a_a_g>
just amortised over time
<Amorsen>
a_a_g: .lines with .next should touch each part of the string once instead of twice. Reading it into cache (or even memory) is not optimal
<Amorsen>
s/ is not/twice is not/
<a_a_g>
Amorsen: its not twice into memory. the original large string can be discarded by the GC after the split
<a_a_g>
after the split is done, only the array of substrings would remain
<a_a_g>
only while split is being executed would the memory be twice
<Amorsen>
Yes, I'm not worrying about keeping it in memory twice, I'm worried about reading it twice
<a_a_g>
reading from where?
<rippa>
from memory
<rippa>
into array
<a_a_g>
you mean reading it once during split and reading it once during the iteration?
<Amorsen>
Right
<a_a_g>
each_line would do the same right?
<Amorsen>
It shouldn't
<a_a_g>
its going to 'read' the string, create a new string for a line, and pass the new string to the block
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<Amorsen>
That line will be cache-hot
<a_a_g>
but it will create a new string object from it
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<rippa>
that's called "premature optimisation"
<a_a_g>
not sure that split and each_line are much different in that case
<Amorsen>
They should be. Rubys standard library seems to be quite conscious about not doing unnecessary work
<Amorsen>
The whole Enumerator thing is a clever way of avoiding unnecessary Arrays
<banisterfiend>
rippa: hello
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<rippa>
hi
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<theishi>
I am getting the error 'no such file to load' when I attempt to require a ruby file. Both files are in the same directory, and I am spelling it correctly. What could cause this?
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<Hanmac>
theishi: you use 1.9.3? then you need require_relative
<theishi>
1.9.2 Hanmac
<Hanmac>
hm you can try it with require_relative, but i thought it was an 1.9.3 feature ...
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<theishi>
already did
<theishi>
and no, didn't work
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<theishi>
oh wait, actually it did, similiar error though...
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<Hanmac>
can you pastie the error?
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<a_a_g>
Amorsen: worst case - str.slice(str.index("\n")…-1).each_line
<a_a_g>
assuming slice uses the same memory. (it should, since strings are immutable)
<theishi>
Hanmac: it was the same error, I just needed to add require_relative inside the includes and it works
<Hanmac>
oh ok then it is good ...
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<arnihermann>
can I have erb read values for variables from the environment of my shell?
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<Tasser>
arnihermann, it's ruby
<Tasser>
arnihermann, try ENV
<arnihermann>
ah
<arnihermann>
sweet
<arnihermann>
thanks
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<theishi>
Hanmac: I am going using this gem called RubyWarrior. Basically you write some AI code and this RubyWarrior will run the code inside its game. When I run RubyWarrior, require works great, but when I run my specs to test my AI out, I need require_relative, but require_realitive doesn't work with RubyWarrior. Anyway to make both happy without constantly changing them back and forth?
<Tasser>
theishi, $LOAD_PATH
<banisterfiend>
theishi: use ruby 1.9
<theishi>
Tasser: I put that where exactly?
<theishi>
banisterfiend: you are probably right
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<theishi>
banisterfiend: I am not really paying attention it seems. I am using ruby 1.9
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<Tasser>
theishi, on the startup file somewhere
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<Tasser>
theishi, with $LOAD_PATH I mean to add paths to the loadpath for require according to your needs
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<theishi>
Tasser: do I put an equals in there? $LOAD_PATH = "/home/me/mydir" ?
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<theishi>
Tasser: ok I have $LOAD_PATH << '/home/me/mydr', but require still doesn't work.... no errors though and if i switch it to require relative it does work
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<Tasser>
then use require_realtive
<theishi>
Tasser: :-) the problem though is when I run rubywarrior, the require_relative gives me an error
<apeiros_>
rubywarrior defeated
<banisterfiend>
theishi: why dont u tell us what the error is
<theishi>
undefined method `require_relative' for Player:Class (NoMethodError)
<banisterfiend>
theishi: 1.9.2 ?
<theishi>
yup banisterfiend
<theishi>
banisterfiend: but I am not exactly sure what this rubywarrior does. Maybe it is using another version of ruby, I might have two differnt versions installed
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<maasha>
It works mostly, but sometimes this method hangs. some thread waiting is needed?
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<JonnieCache>
something is blocking i guess
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<maasha>
that stdin.close is also evil
<maasha>
or what?
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<maasha>
hm, the examples in the ruby cookbook on this sucks
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<mztriz>
Is there a directory listing script for a website in Ruby...similar to this? http://greg-j.com/phpdl/
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<theishi>
is there any way to write an if statement that checks to see which version of ruby you are running? If ruby1.8 require, if ruby1.9 require_relative.... something like that?
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<Amorsen>
theishi: RUBY_VERSION?
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<theishi>
Amorsen: cool thanks... it just feels wierd putting if statements outside of functions
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<apeiros_>
theishi: what are you using that condition for?
<apeiros_>
if you're using it to add methods - use duck-typing instead. check for the presence of the method in the condition, not the ruby version.
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<theishi>
apeiros_: I am adding that condition because I have code that is being run by two different versions of ruby (unavoidable), 1.8 doesn't like require_relative, and 1.9 doesn't like require
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<theishi>
apeiros_: interesting idea duck typing, never heard of it before. I will look into that idea
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<apeiros_>
theishi: if respond_to?(:require_relative, true) then … use require_relative … else … use whatever else … end
<apeiros_>
theishi: tho, require_relative--, you shouldn't ever have to use it. if you do, you do it wrong IMO.
<apeiros_>
the ', true' in respond_to? is needed because require_relative is private and respond_to? doesn't include those normally.
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<theishi>
apeiros_: very cool, thanks :-)
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<Buck>
is it possible to run a numeric loop in reverse (ie. 5..0 instead of 0..5) and how?
<Tasser>
Buck, 5.downto(0)
<Buck>
thank you Tasser
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<Hanmac>
apeoros_ but require_relative is better then require :P
<theishi>
if I am using two different versions of ruby, do I need to load gems for both versions?
<Hanmac>
yeah you do
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<theishi>
Hanmac: how can I check which gems are installed for 1.8, if 1.9.2 is the default
<Hanmac>
gem1.8 ?
<theishi>
scratch that, figured the problem out... thanks
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<Knt3>
Hi
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<Harzilein>
hi
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<davidcelis>
hi
<Harzilein>
would there be a way to have exceptions make a closure and somehow passing that inside the error object?
<Harzilein>
that would make debugging a lot easier
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<Harzilein>
so you'd get not just a stacktrace but copies of the respective execution context and be able to inspect the variables inside
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<davidcelis>
why not use the Ruby debugger..?
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<JonnieCache>
ive always wondered if there was an easy way to make pry fire on all unhandled exceptions
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<eggs>
how can I set an environment variable for a subshell? i.e. I want to do something like `BUILD_FLAGS=--foo make build`
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<ged>
eggs: In Ruby 1.9, you can do: system({'BUILD_FLAGS' => '--foo'}, 'make build')
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<shevy>
eggs I think you can simply re-assign to ENV
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<fullsailor>
They share instances :mysymbol.object_id == :mysymbol.object_id where "mystring".object_id != "mystring.object_id
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<workmad3>
asteve: and basically, the interpreter has to return the same symbol object each time the same symbol is returned... so 1000.times {:symbol} <-- only one symbol is created, 1000.times {"string"} <-- 1000 strings are created
<fullsailor>
Basically if you're repeating the same string many times, its more efficient to use a symbol.
<workmad3>
asteve: also, you tend to find ruby code uses symbols instead of strings as hash keys more often than not
<workmad3>
fullsailor: comparison is also much lighter on a symbol than on a string
<InfiniteJest>
state_data = state_data.sort_by { |state, count| state.nil? ? "ZZ" : state } works, but it's quite the ugly hack.
<fullsailor>
Makes sense because Symbol#== probably just calls #equal?
<workmad3>
asteve: from the programmers perspective too, :symbol is one character less than "symbol" so is quicker to type (assuming your editor doesn't autocomplete to "" when you type ")
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<davidcelis>
its much more friendly as a hash key than a string is as well
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<fullsailor>
workmad3: That's a silly reason to pick a Symbol over a String.
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<workmad3>
fullsailor: depends on how many times you're typing it out ;)
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<shevy>
Symbols often confuse people
<shevy>
workmad3, do you use symbols in case foo; when 'bla' ? or rather ... when :bla
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<workmad3>
shevy: depends on what's in foo ;)
<shevy>
!
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<shevy>
see that's what I don't like
<shevy>
decisions
<Hanmac>
you can use both :P
<workmad3>
shevy: :bla != "bla" after all ;)
<shevy>
"will foo be a symbol or a string"
<workmad3>
shevy: you could do case foo.to_sym to force the issue
<shevy>
I am surprised you guys can work with that, it would make me crazy
<shevy>
yeah workmad3 ... or ... foo.to_s ... but it makes me ANGRY I want to slay kittens as a result!
<fullsailor>
Don't use to_sym unless you really know what you're doing.
<shevy>
there is pair programming, and then there is angry programming where you go and beat up pairs of programmers
<fullsailor>
You'll blow up your symbol table.
<shevy>
sounds wonderful
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<fullsailor>
Symbols are _never_ garbage collected
<asteve>
…that's what she said?
<workmad3>
fullsailor: yeah... we're aware of that :P
<shevy>
oh by the way
<shevy>
does python have anything like symbols?
<shevy>
I mean for a programmer to use (or not use) like that
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<Mon_Ouie>
I don't think so, but their strings are immutable and they use string interning
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<shevy>
hmm hmm hmm
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<grefab>
hello
<grefab>
am i right that there is no such thing as method overloading depending on the parameters in ruby?
<fullsailor>
Yes, the syntax doesn't support defining two methods with different argument lists.
<fullsailor>
Last one defined overrides the prior one.
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<grefab>
okay, that's what i found out
<fullsailor>
But you can always check the argument list in the method to do different actions.
<grefab>
so if i want different behavior i have to putt the logic to distinguish that in one method.
<fullsailor>
Yep.
<grefab>
alright, thanks. that helped a lot! :)
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<Hanmac>
and you can alias methods before defining the new one if it helps you
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<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
alias magic
<gigamonk`>
Is there any better way to run a ruby repl in emacs than to run irb in a *shell* buffer?
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<interopc1p>
elementary question: when I have a string and I do a_string = a_string + "," + another string, I get an error when a_string is nil. How am I supposed to be doing this?
<interopc1p>
i.e. + is not valid for nil
<gigamonk`>
interopc1p: I've got about 30 seconds ruby experience, but you could do (a_string || "") + "," + another string
<Hanmac>
or the best way: a_string.to_s
<interopc1p>
giga sorry does that mean a_string = (a_string || "") + "," + another ?
<interopc1p>
ok so a_string = a_string.to_s + "," + another
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<shadoi>
csavola: no, a symbol is an internalized string.
<csavola>
shadoi: which is a value
<csavola>
shadoi: as opposed to a variable
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<shadoi>
true, I'm just used to using them for hash keys :)
<shadoi>
not the values.
<csavola>
shadoi: using them as hash keys are using them for the values :)
<asteve>
shadoi: thank you
<shadoi>
csavola: yup
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<shadoi>
asteve: like csavola said the symbol can't be a top-level variable.
<asteve>
whaut?
<shadoi>
:foo = "blah"
<shadoi>
SyntaxError
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<csavola>
asteve: a symbol is just a different type of value ... e.g 1, "one", :some_name
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<shevy>
I hate symbols
<musl>
shevy: Why?
<asteve>
symbols in hash make you happy fun time bash!
<shevy>
musl they confuse people
<shevy>
they add a layer of complexity as well
<Tasser>
shevy, better than magic numbers
<shevy>
what is that?
<shevy>
666? :)
<tommylommykins>
complexity? But Given that symbols have no value, they're simpler than variables?
<shevy>
tommylommykins you find them simpler than variables?
<csavola>
shevy: think of them as constants
* tommylommykins
does
<tommylommykins>
their meaning is *all* in the name
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<shevy>
:x
<Hanmac>
there are like Enums
<musl>
No, enums have an implicit value
<shevy>
the coolest things is the amount of different statements about them here ;)
<shevy>
*thing
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<spanner>
is 'Programming Ruby 1.9' a good choice for an intermediate-level Perl programmer to learn Ruby, or would 'Eloquent Ruby' perhaps be a better choice to start with?
<Hanmac>
i think the first one is good to start
<Tasser>
spanner, the best choice is to care less about metaproblems ;-)
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* tommylommykins
thinks having a book for Ruby is worth it
<tommylommykins>
there's a lot in the language that I hadn;t realised existed until I started trawling through on
<tommylommykins>
e
<csavola>
a book is a good start... once you are into Ruby ruby-doc.org has everything you need and is updated for you
<banisterfiend>
JonnieCache: it's a very difficult problem but im working on something now
<asteve>
what would $output be?
<shevy>
asteve what kind of question is that
<shevy>
it definitely is a global variable
<asteve>
$output = ""; $ means global?
<interopc1p>
how do I make ["",58,55] into [58,55]? is there an Array method for removing nil?
<heftig>
asteve: yes.
<shevy>
asteve yeah. it is available everywhere in your code
<csavola>
interopc1p: "" is not nil...
<shevy>
or probably code of someone else, since you have to ask ;)
<asteve>
shevy: and @ is a class variable?
<heftig>
instance
<shevy>
yeah, it is specific to instances of a class
<shevy>
@@foo is a class variable
<asteve>
ah
<shevy>
@foo is an instance variable
<shevy>
but @@foo suck so dont use them
<interopc1p>
how do I make ["",58,55] into [58,55]? is there an Array method for removing ""?
<gigamonkey>
So what's the rationale for having a slice that starts at one past the last legal index return an empty array while a slice starting at higher indices returns nil?
<shevy>
the rationale of a lot of beer
<Mon_Ouie>
There's also array.delete ""
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<asteve>
where can i get a description of operators such as <=>?
<shevy>
asteve no idea but it should be in Enumerable
<apeiros_>
asteve: <=> is a method too, so you get the information just like for any other method
<shevy>
gigamonkey also not sure what you meant. %w( abc def ghi )[2,1] # => ["ghi"] whereas %w( abc def ghi )[3,1] # => [] that seems to be correct behaviour, doesn't it?
<apeiros_>
there are not too many real operators in ruby: ||, &&, ?:, and, or, defined? - I think that's all
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<shevy>
oh cool Comparable
<shevy>
6 methods
<shevy>
:)
<asteve>
i'm looking at someone else's work and I see this: "fields = other_array.uniq.sort{|a,b| a.to_s <=> b.to_s}"
<asteve>
i don't think <=> is a comparing the two
<Mon_Ouie>
It is
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<gioele>
hello
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<gioele>
what does Hash uses to check equality in #[]? From what I understand it uses #eql?, doesn't it?
<Mon_Ouie>
It compares a.to_s and b.to_s. Sort with no block is like sort { |a, b| a <=> b }
<Mon_Ouie>
gioele: Right, but it also needs #hash, which must return the same value for two equal objects
<gioele>
Mon_Ouie: so it is `obj.eql?(other) && obj.hash == other.hash`, right?
<asteve>
Mon_Ouie: doesn't it switch the array around so that it is now sorted on B?
<asteve>
b*
<Mon_Ouie>
Kind of, though actually it wouldn't call hash on both objects
<gigamonkey>
shevy: but %w( abc def ghi )[4,1] => nil
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<gioele>
gigamonkey: 4 > #size
<newbold>
is _why's guide still a good place to start for people new to Ruby?
<heftig>
gioele: the other way around
<gioele>
newbold: yes, nothing has changed since it has been written
<heftig>
obj.hash == other.hash is tested first
<Hanmac>
i think the question about [4]=> nil and [4,1]=> [] should go to topic ... is is asked very often
<gioele>
heftig: ah, ok
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<heftig>
since obj.eql?(other) imples the hashes are the same
<heftig>
implies
<heftig>
and it's typically the more expensive check
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<gioele>
heftig: not in my case, but it is nice to know, thanks
<gigamonkey>
gioele: yes, but what's the rational for returning nil there rather than []
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<gioele>
gigamonkey: I'd say implementation detail, but is a "nice" out of band value to let you know that you are over the array size
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<asteve>
>> [[40,'d'],[2,'c']].sort { |a,b| a <=> b }
<asteve>
=> [[2, "c"], [40, "d"]]
<asteve>
how is that operation a comparator?
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<heftig>
asteve: a <=> b returns 1, 0, or -1 if a is greater, equal or smaller than b
<heftig>
sort expects exactly that
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<asteve>
ok, how can i sort off of the column instead of the row?
<fridgerator>
has anyone heard of a ruby gem for image steganography?
<gioele>
asteve: {|a,b| a[1] <=> b[1] }
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<gioele>
a will be [40, 'd']
<gioele>
(for instance)
<banisterfiend>
heftig: da wird er aber heftig überrascht sein
<heftig>
:|
* Hanmac
is trying to be funny - it is not effective
<asteve>
gioele: doh! thanks
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<cdabba>
whats a quick way to convert a hash like {:a=> [1,2], :b=>[1,2],:c=>[1,4]}, or any hash where the values are an array (and each has the same index)} into an array of hashes?
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<Hanmac>
cdabba: i this sample what do you want as result?
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<shevy>
I want fairies as result
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<ged>
Yay faeries!
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<ged>
Or fairies.
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<cdabba>
Hanmac: I want [{:a=>1,:b=>1,:c=>1},{:a=>2,:b=>2,:c=>4}]
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<gioele>
re
<gioele>
examples of well written gem documentation?
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<davidcelis>
Should the Dummy application generated along with a new mountable rails engine be put into gitignore?
<davidcelis>
oops
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<banisterfiend>
JonnieCache: you here?
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<mithrop>
hi here
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<pseudonymous>
I know it's not strictly ruby itself - but if someone with rvm skills could drop by #rvm - I have an issue where bundler insists gems aren't installed though I did - I'd appreciate help there :)
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<akem>
will rand() generate the same number on any machine if i use the same seed?
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<shevy>
I dont think so
<RubyPanther>
unicode is great, I love being able to have variables like x₀,x₁
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<gioele>
akem: the same sequence on the same implementation+machine?+compiled binary
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<RubyPanther>
akem: real world answer, "yes"
<RubyPanther>
unless.
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<akem>
gioele, the same ruby version on different machines with possibly differents OS.
<akem>
RubyPanther, i see
<gioele>
RubyPanther: does 1.9.3 produces the same sequence on x86 and amd64 machines?
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<gioele>
but yeah, for all purposes they are the same :)
<RubyPanther>
rubyspec is nothing, though
<gioele>
RubyPanther: code is law ;)
<RubyPanther>
it is an idea, more than a thing, even though there is this thing already
<RubyPanther>
Matz agreed the first step was to declare a standard, rather than to have actually defined it correctly
<gioele>
the implementations I've seen they all claim "we are compatible with 1.9.x (so says RubySpec)" so it seems that it has a recognized value at least
<gioele>
what about the ISO efforts? are they still in progress?
<RubyPanther>
The work is being done in the Japanese standards body, you have to pay for a copy
<RubyPanther>
the actual "Ruby standard" that includes all the caveats
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<gioele>
more that for a copy, you have to pay to participate, unless you are an invited expert (I suppose)
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<RubyPanther>
No, I mean, unless you are one of the authors you are supposed to buy it
<RubyPanther>
the author's mom is supposed to buy it...
<gioele>
RubyPanther: once it is out
<RubyPanther>
No, that is now
<gioele>
but these times many ISO standard are published free of charge, that could be one
<gioele>
RubyPanther: has it been ratified?
<RubyPanther>
Well it isn't ISO, it is the Japanese standards body
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<RubyPanther>
Then it will work its way out from there, presumably it will hit ISO next and get published free
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<deploy>
exit
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<gioele>
RubyPanther: it takes quite a bit of discussion in the ISO wg before a national standard becomes an ISO standard (well, except for well known fast-tracked ECMA standards ;))
<RubyPanther>
but the thing is that it is not a real standard, it has caveats so anywhere that implementations do things differently, it just lists the known ways it happens as the standard. It makes no attempt to unify the behavior.
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<CannedCorn>
hey guys is the difference between to_s and to_str implicit vs explicit casting
<CannedCorn>
?
<CannedCorn>
most objects only have to_s right?
<workmad3>
CannedCorn: I believe .to_s can also validly return 'string-like' objects, while .to_str should always return an actual instance of String
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<gioele>
CannedCorn: I was searching the same http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/96554 says `#to_s` is for good but "casual" representations of an object (you want to put this object inside a message? use this string version) while `#to_str` is for objects that have a single, precise and meaningful string representation (Pathname, in his example)
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<RubyPanther>
CannedCorn: it is not explicit vs implicit casting, if it has to_str that tells you it considers itself to "be" a string, and should return itself "as" a string, whereas #to_s is a string representation, so that is approximately casting
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<RubyPanther>
really though #to_s only needs to give you back something with a #to_str method, which might be a subclass of String, or a StringIO, or whatever, so we don't really have anything that actually matches the idea of "casting"