apeiros changed the topic of #ruby to: Ruby 2.0.0-p247: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p448) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<zendeavor> i mean
<zendeavor> it's open source
<zendeavor> if i paste the gh link am i a bad person
<zendeavor> ...
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<popl> zendeavor: gh?
<zendeavor> github
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<popl> ah
<popl> zendeavor: did someone yell at you for something?
<zendeavor> there's some extensive hierarchy going on in jruby sources though
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<zendeavor> no, why would anyone yell at me
<zendeavor> i yell back.
<popl> rawr
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<ecart> derf-?
<ecart> ATH?
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<derf-> ecart: yes, what's up?
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<popl> +++ATH0
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<eka> ecart: don't do private asking
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<eka> ecart: ask here
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<ecart> [eka]: yes
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<eka> ecart: what's the problem?
<ecart> I'm beginner
<pontiki> that'd be it!
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<ecart> I have a ftp client that uploads a file to the server
<ecart> and opens the file in the browser
<ecart> No only that he is able to open the file with the location where it is sending the file is not the same as it is opening
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<ecart> then the file is never reached in the browser
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<eka> ecart: what this has to do with ruby?
<ecart> eka: so why does he file upload "X.txt" to domain / tmp /
<ecart> and attempts to access only domain / X.txt
<pontiki> if you want help, you have to show code.
<pontiki> and errors
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<pontiki> i.e., show, don't tell
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<pontiki> ecart: this is embarassing to point out
<pontiki> this is your error: Ruby gem 'launchy' not found. Type 'gem install launchy' to install it.
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<pontiki> it shows you the problem and how to fix it
<eka> ecart: as pontiki said… you need that lib to work
<ecart> pontiki
<ecart> for me?
<pontiki> yes
<ecart> not
<ecart> not
<ecart> the script is running perfectly
<pontiki> my apologies
<eka> ecart: so what's the exact problem?
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<ecart> [eka]: the only problem is that it tries to access a file that is in a different location
<ecart> upload for domain/x/
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<ecart> and try to access domain/x.txt
<ecart> this is wrong
<eka> ecart: the thing I don't understand is line 101… it's creating an url with the original domain + the local downloaded file?
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<ecart> yes
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<eka> ecart: it's uploading to server or downloading?
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<eka> mmm see … uploading right?
<eka> ecart: the thing is that maybe in line 101 you are missing the #{folder}/#{LOCAL_FILE} ??
<ecart> [eka]: this is wrong
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<pontiki> ecart: what have you done so far to debug this?
<eka> ecart: cause you are uploading to a folder in the server… and then try to reach it without pointing to the folder… do you follow?
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<pontiki> eka, that may work given the nature of the folders
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<pontiki> they're usuaally DocumentRoot folders
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<pontiki> although having .. in there is very suspicious
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<pontiki> ecart, again, *what* have you done so far
<ecart> well, there must be some reason for me is asking the help of Messrs.
<ecart> if I did solve the problem would not be asking
<ecart> :(
<eka> pontiki: ok.. see the last error… it's throwing an exception about line 1 and it's running on a windows machine AFICT
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<eka> ecart: try to delete line 1 from source code L
<eka> pontiki: #!/usr/bin/env ruby <- that would mess up on windows?
<ecart> #!/usr/bin/env ruby?
<eka> ecart: the error you showed says line 1
<eka> and that's a *nix directive
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<pontiki> does launchy work on windows?
<ecart> ok
<ecart> look
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<ecart> Entering src directory
<ecart> Uploading file to 'src/secao1.php'...done!
<ecart> Opening 'http://domain.com/secao1.php' in browser...
<pontiki> ecart:: does
<ecart> should be so
<pontiki> ecart:: launchy
<pontiki> ecart:: work
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<pontiki> ecart:: on
<ecart> Opening 'http://domain.com/src/secao1.php' in browser...
<ecart> no Opening 'http://domain.com/secao1.php' in browser...
<pontiki> ecart:: windows?
<ecart> yes
<pontiki> show me
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<ecart> what?
<pontiki> show me it works for some other file
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<ecart> YOU did not understand what I'm saying ...
<ecart> he is trying to open the file in the wrong way
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<pontiki> hum
<ecart> it should open the file in this way
<ecart> Opening 'http://domain.com/src/secao1.php' in browser...
<ecart> not Opening 'http://domain.com/secao1.php' in browser...
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<pontiki> how can you be doing this to domain.com?
<ecart> that is all that is wrong
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<ecart> -.-
<ecart> mydomain.com
<ecart> localhost
<ecart> etc
<ecart> etc
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<pontiki> if it's your localhost, can you verify the file is actually there?
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<ecart> yes ... it is her
* IceDragon cracks knucks
<ecart> it's like I said there's nothing wrong with the code ...
<ecart> just in time to open the file it forgets where I put the file and try to open starting from the root
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<pontiki> ok, with this output: Uploading file to 'src/secao1.php'...done!
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<pontiki> there is the directory there called src, which is not one of your REMOTE_DIRS
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<ecart> not ... it will not send the file to a directory that he does not know.
<ecart> it will send to the directories it knows about.
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<pontiki> so tell me where src/ comes from?
<ecart> he will send to any of the predefined directories in remote_dirs
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<pontiki> REMOTE_DIRS = %w<pub httpdocs .. . domains www wwwroot public_html web Web>
<pontiki> yes?
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<ecart> ok ... we deleted "Mr." from our list of directories and we just let
<ecart> "www"
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<ecart> src*
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<ecart> REMOTE_DIRS = %w<src>
<ecart> ok
<ecart> lets test
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<ecart> Uploading file to 'src/secao1.php'...done!
<ecart> Opening 'http://www.domain.com/secao1.php' in browser...
<ecart> no work
<ecart> ;/
<ecart> he keeps trying to open the file in a wrong place
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<pontiki> i'd look at your browser configuration, then
<pontiki> sorry
<pontiki> *server* configuration
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<ecart> uri = "http://#{domain}/#{folder}/#{LOCAL_FILE}"
<ecart> this is right?
<pontiki> how should i know? it's your configuration
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<eka> ecart: just try
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<ecart> I think the code in itself says what it does.
<ecart> I need not explain anything
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<ecart> ;/
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<ecart> I think you can understand what it does
<pontiki> then i'm done
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<eka> ecart: you are being rude
<ecart> [eka]: sorry
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<ecart> not my intention
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<ecart> eka
<ecart> ;/
<ecart> no more help?
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<reactormonk> any ideas how to parse http://sprunge.us/RGdT ?
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<pontiki> reactormonk: the multi-line things?
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<epitron> hrmmm... i can't insert more than 30,000 rows/sec into an sqlite3 database...
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<epitron> but i can spew 120-130k rows/sec into leveldb or a flat file
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<epitron> while bin/sqlite3's .import command can do 150k
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<epitron> i'm thinking the sqlite3 bindings have some overhead here
<epitron> i looked at the source to .import, and i'm doing the same thing that it's doing
<epitron> just in ruby instead of C
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<pontiki> that is a hecka overhead
<pontiki> 5x slow down?
<akerl> So... I'm trying to do string variable expansion after-the-fact... for instance, my script has 'Hello #{func(#$1)}' stored, and later on I want to have that interpolated using those values and functions
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<pontiki> akerl: run through ERB?
<akerl> Using `my_string % (var, other_var) doesn't work, because I can't use function calls or a dynamic number of arguments
<epitron> pontiki: well, it is ruby, after all. :)
<ecart> ok
<ecart> thank you all
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<ecart> for help?
<ecart> ;/
<epitron> i should probably profile this
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<Nilium> Alrighty, got my transform class working. Hello simplified 3D transformations.
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<pontiki> w00t!
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<akerl> pontiki: I'm reading the ruby docs for ERB, and I'm having trouble seeing how I'd use it; any chance you're aware of a better intro to ERB somewhere?
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<ecart> remember not paste my code the next time you ask for help
<ecart> it hurts the copyright law
<pontiki> sadly, no, akerl :(
<akerl> No worries, I'll keep hunting; thanks for pointing me in the right direction :)
<pontiki> but it seems like you should just be able to do ERB.new('Hello #{func($1)').result
<pontiki> as long as func and $1 are defined at that point...
<akerl> Yea, they are
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<pontiki> oh wait
<akerl> The current hideous solution is `eval '"' + my_string + '"'`
<akerl> Which works... but makes me cry tears of pain
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<pontiki> ERB.new('<%= "Hello #{func($1)} %>').result
<Nilium> Pretty sure that's what erb's going to do that too, you're just not going to be the one typing 'eval'
<terrellt> Anyone have experience setting up pry within a gem? I keep getting coderay errors saying undefined method 'term'
<pontiki> i forgotted the delimiters
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<akerl> Nilium: I'll still feel a bit better :)
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<akerl> Awesome, it works :) Thanks!
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<pontiki> akerl: https://eval.in/41562
<pontiki> oh nm, you got it working :)
<akerl> Yep, but it's good to see that your version matches mine. Makes me feel less crazy
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<pontiki> or just my kind of crazy :>
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<reactormonk> pontiki, yup
<reactormonk> pontiki, besides other things
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<pontiki> the single line things seem rather easy
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<pontiki> but then you have to stop when you get to a PAL line and pull in the continuation lines
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<pontiki> are there other multi-line things in other data sets?
<pontiki> this looks like a bibliography thing
<pontiki> is this a standard format? maybe there's already a parser
<reactormonk> pontiki, no indication
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<pontiki> i can think of an ineligant way
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<terrellt> Anyone used FakeFS and dealt with faking open-uri?
<pontiki> which is just keep the last item parsed, and if the current line begins with spaces, append to it
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<pontiki> terrellt: i use WebMock to fake open-uri
<terrellt> I don't need to -actually- open a URI though.
<terrellt> It just so happens this gem uses open and open-uri, it comes from the filesystem.
<pontiki> that's what WebMock is for...
<terrellt> Well, the filesystem from FakeFS
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<Eiam> banister: I made the jump, finally, to Pry..
<Eiam> banister: so f'ing happy I finally got around to it =)
<pontiki> open-uri should only get invoked when the open starts with a uri scheme, tho
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<pontiki> yay Eiam
<Eiam> its been on my todo for a year!
<pontiki> i am seriously loving pry
<pontiki> watched the talk at this year's RailsConf
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<terrellt> open-uri overrides Kernel.open, which I can't seem to stub out and get the result I want.
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<banister> Eiam: k00, wat features do u like?
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<banister> pontiki: glad u like it :)
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<jeromelanteri> hello all, and hello pontiki (wahou... you are a dinosorus here... you practice A LOT)
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<pontiki> *snerk*
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<pontiki> or should i say "RAAARRRKKK RAAARRRRKKKK"
<sevenseacat> lol
<jeromelanteri> is someone know how to make a correct use of the ".rvmrc" files for choose the ruby version to run with for project with aptana studio 3 ?
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<banister> pontiki: which features do you use?
<reactormonk> pontiki, I suspect I will do a stateful iteration
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<Eiam> banister: well, I like what pry-nav brought in with the step & next, so all the runtime invocation stuff. the view & history replay, and state navigation =)
<pontiki> banister: i've been using the internal ri a lot, and the cd/ls thing i *love*
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<banister> pontiki: interesting, why do you prefer to to show-doc ?
<Eiam> banister: when I modified a generated SQL statement from some random gem after stepping through their damn code, then saw it run with the *right* values that I dropped in from Pry..
<pontiki> and i am really liking the syntax highlighting
<Eiam> banister: it was pretty hot.
<pontiki> and debugging stuff
<pontiki> heehee Eiam -- perdy sexy shtuff
<jeromelanteri> is someone know how to make a correct use of the ".rvmrc" files for choose the ruby version to run with for project with aptana studio 3 ?
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<banister> pontiki: just curiuos, why do you prefer 'ri' to show-doc?
<banister> i wrote show-doc as a replacment for 'ri' :)
<pontiki> i didn't know it!
<pontiki> i shall use it!
<banister> aliased to ? btw
<banister> ? Blah#foo
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<pontiki> !!!
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<pontiki> hmmm
<pontiki> show-doc only works for methods?
<banister> works for classes too, at least it should
<pontiki> show-doc Array isn't
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<banister> pontiki: because there's also an Array method, so it'll pick that up first. If you want Array class try: ? ::Array (i think)
<pontiki> says Error: Cannot locate this method: Array.
<banister> pontiki: ah, u need to install pry-doc
<pontiki> ah ha!
<banister> pry-doc also lets you look up the C source for core methods
<banister> after u install pry-doc, try going: show-source Array#sort
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<pontiki> hmm
<pontiki> well, 'ri Array' gives me a whole lot of documentation
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<pontiki> 'show-dow ::Array' give some info, but not documentation.
<pontiki> clearly i need more info
<banister> pontiki: try it on another (pure ruby) class
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<pontiki> so nothing from core, probably?
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<banister> pontiki: i'm just checking to see what ri offers, generating docs takes a while ;)
<pontiki> kk
<banister> pontiki: can u show me a screengrab of the ri Array output?
<pontiki> one sec
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<pontiki> i'm sure i'm doing something wrong
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<banister> pontiki: ah, we do have that information, we're just not displaying it, but it's probably easy enough to fix, thanks for spotting it
<banister> i think it's a regression actually
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<pontiki> oh
<pontiki> this is why people put me in qa roles
<banister> pontiki: here https://github.com/pry/pry/issues/960
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<banister> pontiki: does providing -a show any docs?
<banister> ? ::Array -a
<banister> pontiki: also, try: $ ::Array -a
<pontiki> no, just gives a list of the locations
<pontiki> oh
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<pontiki> oh not THAT is classy!
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<pontiki> now*
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<pontiki> banister: show-doc wasn't displaying doc for my own classes, my own gems
<pontiki> all pure ruby
<banister> pontiki: really? does it work if you go: ? Pry
<pontiki> it does
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<banister> pontiki: are you sure your classes have docs? can you tell me the name of one of your gems?
<pontiki> if i say 'ri Rsyncbackup' - i get the doc
<zorg24> What version of rubygems should I install if I'm using ruby 1.9.3?
<pontiki> if i say '? Rsyncbackup' - i don't
<banister> pontiki: gem install rsyncbackup ?
<pontiki> rsyncbackup is one of my gems
<pontiki> yup
<banister> ok holdon
<pontiki> i'm not saying it's *good* doc
<pontiki> but it has some
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<banister> pontiki: i dont see its docs here in the source: http://cl.ly/image/3Q3H2s2u2d30
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<pontiki> what about the README.rdoc?
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<banister> pontiki: those aren't class docs, they're general docs for the library...if we were just to display all of a README.rdoc for a given class in a library i think it would annoy people more..is that way ri does?
<banister> what*
<pontiki> yes
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<pontiki> which is fine
<pontiki> i'm usually more often interested in method doc
<banister> pontiki: i thought about making that available (the readme) via a gem command inside pry, i.e: gem readme rsyncbackup
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<banister> would display the readme for rsyncbackup etc
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<banister> we currently have a few gem commands, gem-cd, gem-list, gem-install, gem-readme (or more likely gem readme) could be supported too
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<banister`sleep> anyway bed time, thanks for the feedback pontiki :)
<banister`sleep> nite
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<whitenoise> bonne nuit
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<pontiki> sure :)
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<pontiki> ok, i'm embarassed to ask, how can i load a specific version of a gem i have installed in pry? (in this case i have a few versions of activesupport, and of course it's picking the oldest)
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<banister`sleep> pontiki: gem 'foo', '0.1.2'
<banister`sleep> require 'foo'
<pontiki> ta
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<banister`sleep> pontiki: tell me if: ? gem works ;)
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<pontiki> crud
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<whitenoise> create read update destroy
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<pontiki> c'est ma faute
<whitenoise> lol
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<whitenoise> qu'avez-vous fait?
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<pontiki> dk
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<pontiki> i am suddenly being stymied by gem
<pontiki> if i say '$ gem list activesupport -i' it returns true
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<pontiki> if i say '$ gem list activesupport' it returns activesupport (4.0.0, 3.2.13, 3.2.8)
<pontiki> but if i say '$ gem which activesupport -a' it returns 'ERROR: Can't find ruby library file or shared library activesupport'
<whitenoise> try active_support
<whitenoise> pontiki: who taught you how to be inconsistent>
<pontiki> oh crikey
<pontiki> apeiros did
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<whitenoise> i'm going to disappear for a bit. be back soons.
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<alex277> hi
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<popl> Hello.
<alex277> [popl] hello
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<aces1up> how can i call raise MyException, mymessage #<--- and set a custom backtrace for it?
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<popl> aces1up: What do you mean by custom?
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<pontiki> aces1up: i don't know if this will work, but maybe override the backtrace method when you create your exception class?
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<epitron> aces1up: why? :)
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<crucify_me> hi wondering why certain simple code can't be evaluated on the command line, i.e.: $ ruby -e /((a)((b)c))/.match("abc")
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<pontiki> why can't it?
<zendeavor> quoting
<pontiki> well, yeah, you have to quote it
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<pontiki> and it has to do something
<zendeavor> well, that one should at least exist with a meaningful status
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<crucify_me> pontiki: zendeavor sorry missed your answers thanks!
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<jerome__> hello guys
<terrellt> Evenin'.
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<jerome__> which is for you the GUI you prefer and why ?
<jerome__> wxwidget, shoes, swing, Qt4, Tk, etc... ?
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<terrellt> For ruby? I've never needed one.
<jerome__> and how do you run a GUI without ?
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<jerome__> do u use jruby (i read have some implemented GUI inside)
<terrellt> I've never needed to write a GUI for my ruby stuff?
<terrellt> They're either command line utilities or things meant for the web.
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<terrellt> I mean, I guess HTML could count, but that's not what you mean. ;)
<jerome__> ok.
<jerome__> so you can not answer the question i ask, thanks...
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<zendeavor> jerome__: whichever one suits your needs. there is no other valid answer.
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<jerome__> sure, i would like somethink for all OS portability and not to heavy to use.
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<jerome__> so... i tried Tk, shoes (litlle bit), Fxruby, Qt...
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<jerome__> Qt seems good for me due to the power back... and shoes easy to do it... Tk to old looking and not real portable as i want, wxwidget i just try now but dev seems to be stop
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<jerome__> Fx ruby was good, but... complicate to make portable.
<zendeavor> yeah from what i've gathered wx is stagnant
<jerome__> coca is only for mac
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<jerome__> cocoa
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<jerome__> so... i don't know swing...
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<jerome__> what did you think about swing ?
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<zendeavor> nothing to comment, i don't write GUIs
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<jerome__> thanks, next... (please, if you not use GUI, cool to not speak aboutu don't know, there is no way on this)
<jerome__> how... zendeavor, for information, i arrived install wxruby and ruby on osx-10.6.8 i386
<jerome__> i'm happy with this and you help me yesterday a little bit. Thanks man.
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<sevenseacat> oh not this guy again
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<zendeavor> he'll get the netiquette down eventually
<popl> before heat death?
<popl> ;P
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<jerome__> ok, bye ladies and gentlemen...
<jerome__> and ladie-boys...
<sevenseacat> lol
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<ravster> hey all, how do I find the api docs for rspec's 'post' function?
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<popl> ravster: it's not on the rspec site?
<popl> or linked to from
<popl> ?
<sevenseacat> it is
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<popl> sevenseacat: I know it is because I'm looking at it.
<sevenseacat> hehe
<popl> sevenseacat: I see you're unfamiliar with the Socratic method.
<ravster> doing a search for 'post' on the relishapp or rspec.info isn't giving me anything.
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<popl> ravster: That's because the documentation is hosted elsewhere.
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<popl> ravster: But there are links on the website itself.
<popl> ravster: There are also rdoc gems you can install
<ravster> ok, thanks
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<ElCapitanMarklar> Has anyone ever struck this issue before? I've got a weird issue with bundler where it's setting a non existent SHA in the lock for a particular gem when I include a tag number in the Gemfile.
<ElCapitanMarklar> e.g. If I put gem "my_gem", "0.1.1", :git => 'git@github.com:marklar/my_gem.git', :tag => '0.1.1' in the Gemfile
<ElCapitanMarklar> The sha for that tag and the head of that repo which has just been bumped to 0.1.1 are both the same
<ElCapitanMarklar> When I remove the tag info from the Gem file I get the correct sha in the lock file
<popl> :|
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<robert_> I don't get it; I'm trying to generate a CSV file for something, yet when the data has spaces in it, it won't quote it, but when I try to quote it, it over-quotes it. AND IT'S.. UUUGH.
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<ryanf> robert_: what is "it"? the csv library?
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<ryanf> it sounds like it doesn't think it's necessary to quote data just because it has spaces in it
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<robert_> well it is, otherwise the other end rejects it. :/
<popl> what is "it"?
<robert_> a company that has a csv parser
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<robert_> I can't say much more than that- you would have to be in my position. it's not that I'm not allowed, just that it would take all night to explain the sitation. :P
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<sevenseacat> well it doesnt sound like we can help you
<ryanf> there's a force_quotes option
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<robert_> hm
<ryanf> oh, wrong link
<ryanf> meant to link to .generate
<robert_> heh, yeah
<ryanf> (if you aren't actually using that csv libary, you're fired)
<robert_> lol, of course I am.
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<robert_> ryanf: I also tried using a :converter, but that doesn't work.
<ryanf> I'm sure it works for somebody
<ryanf> force_quotes sounds like what you're looking for, though
<sevenseacat> 'doesnt work' is the most useless errror message ever
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<Eiam> man its a bit weird when the cleaning ladies start to talk to me cause they see me here every night =/
<Eiam> "why are you here, go home!"
<Eiam> yes, thank you for that, I was not aware
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<pontiki> they care about you
<pontiki> no one should work as late as they do
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<robert_> ryanf: yeah, it's what I'm looking for. Now I just have to normalize the CSV.
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<Eiam> pontiki: lol
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<Eiam> i wonder for how many years they have walked into my office ,taking out my trash & cleaning it, wondering "what asshole works in this office"
<Eiam> and now, the truth is out. they know.
<Eiam> I'm that asshole.
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<Eiam> the guy with the words "Be Nice" on his whiteboard and strike marks slowly ticking out the # of times I've actually "been nice"
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<sevenseacat> literally? that would be awesome.
<Eiam> yeah.. I literally have the words "Be Nice" on my whiteboard with tick marks next to it
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<sevenseacat> haha
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<pontiki> how many?
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<Eiam> for the year?
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<pontiki> sure
<Eiam> 2
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<pontiki> heh
<Eiam> yeah =/
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<Eiam> my job basically entails telling people "No" a lot
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<Eiam> like, a lot.
<Eiam> and people don't generally like being told no
<sevenseacat> that wouldnt be fun after a while
<pontiki> nod
<pontiki> that is tough
<Eiam> so being nice amounts to me saying "yes" to someone
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<pontiki> hmm
<Eiam> without having a good reason behind feeling like being nice!
<Eiam> sevenseacat: takes a certain kind of personality for sure! our team is pretty well knit I think we all get along really well =)
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<Eiam> (its all our jobs to say no!)
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<pontiki> is that why you have to work past when the cleaning folks come in?
<sevenseacat> :)
<Eiam> pontiki: I work past when the cleaning folks come in because I wear many hats and sometimes those hats compete for my attention.
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<Eiam> products & software won't ship itself, and someone has to do the work
<pontiki> no, i know, i was being sort of silly
<pontiki> but not
<pontiki> here's something i found odd
<Eiam> i sent my wife & kids to her parents for a few weeks
<Eiam> so i could just work -> sleep -> work
<Eiam> without someone bothering me =)
<pontiki> the company i worked for until recently is a small startup
<pontiki> really sort of on the teetering edge
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<pontiki> no one, and i mean NO ONE, but me worked past 5
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<pontiki> 3 ppl came in before me
<Eiam> different strokes I suppose!
<pontiki> one person worked from home after hours
<Eiam> I'm the only one here on this floor for sure
<Eiam> the building next to me.. full of people
<Eiam> lots & lots of people =)
<pontiki> this is unusual for me
<pontiki> but apparently that is the norm for this region
<Eiam> i left at 1am last night and the parking lot was like, full of peoples
<Eiam> i felt like a slacker for a minute!
<sevenseacat> i like my job but working that much would drive me absolutely crazy.
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<sevenseacat> work to live, not live to work
<Eiam> sevenseacat: I don't do it too often
<pontiki> i know, sevenseacat, it never pays to be the hardest working person
<Eiam> sevenseacat: ah, well. I love my job, where I work & what I do and what I work on. I wouldn't want to work like this all the time, but I don't mind it when my wife & kids aren't here
<Eiam> I do mind it when they are here, and don't do it, I leave at 5:30 every day!
<Eiam> ... then when they go to sleep I work for 4 more hours haha
<sevenseacat> lol
<Eiam> but ssh don't tell them =)
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<pontiki> when it's something i love doing, and a project i love producing, i'll work long and hard
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<pontiki> but it really never works out when i care more about things than the founders/managers do
<pontiki> one of the reasons i prefer freelance
<pontiki> "never work harder than your client"
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<Jdubs> Hello! Anyone around tonight? Need some quick help with a rails problem but no one in #rails is there :(
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* sevenseacat looks at the 600 people in #rubyonrails
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<canton7> JDubs, #rubyonrails
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<Eiam> okay so brain lapse here..
<Eiam> lets say you wanted to create a progress bar. You know done is 100%. You start at 0%. Your only value is how many un-applied values you have left. e.g. you start at 20, then move to 19, 18, 17,16,15
<Eiam> so progress would be 100% at 0
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<Eiam> so... abs(((18/20)*100) - 100)
<Eiam> so at 18 remaining you'd be at 10%
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<Eiam> seem right?
<Eiam> better way to do it?
<pontiki> not really
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<Eiam> not really right
<Eiam> or not really better way?
<pontiki> i can't think of another way
<Eiam> okay thanks
<Eiam> =)
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<pontiki> 100 - (n/m)*100 might look simpler
<pontiki> then you don't need the abs
<Eiam> oh, right
<Eiam> nice, thakns
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<mikecmpbll> i didn't realise, but it seems like it's kind of possible to pass a method to instance_eval? it executes and then returns error.
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<mikecmpbll> def do_it() puts "hi!" end instance_eval(&do_it)
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<mikecmpbll> ah never mind, seems it's evaluating the method before instance_eval. thought it was kinda odd.
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<Eiam> nite all
<sevenseacat> see ya dood
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<Macaveli> Hello what's the tutorial to learn on how to do select on your Rails Table: e.g. Users.first, but I want for example to search for a specific user. Where can I learn thsi? :)
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<sevenseacat> not in a non-rails channel, for starters.
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<olivier_bK> i try to call a methode in my script but i get undefinded methode 'compress' i dont understand why he tel me that https://gist.github.com/zyriuse75/7c64df60599409a4e9f5
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<waxjar> you need to define the method before you use it
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<fuzzy> Hi i'm trying to use google's i feel lucky with nokogiri and i'm getting a bunch of javascript stuff which i believe is the re-direct code. Could anyone tell me how to get nokogiri to follow this or some other method to solving this problem?
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<hanmac> fuzzy, nokogiri cant do what, nokogiri its can only parse or build xml code, it does not know about javascript
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<fuzzy> Is there any way around it via Ruby?
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<fuzzy> ty :)
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<Nilium> Oh goody, looks like RubyMotion fixed its weird things-not-being-retained issue.
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<olivier_bK> d oyou have a regex for keep everything before " . "
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<olivier_bK> i try to keep the name before .txt
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<canton7> olivier_bK, use File.basename("filename.txt", ".txt")
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<Spooner> Or, more generically: File.basename(filename, File.extname(filename))
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<olivier_bK> for my exemple is txt but i can get all of type cvs,txt etc...
<canton7> see Spooner's comment
<olivier_bK> i just see it after
<olivier_bK> :)
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<shredding> Does this example mean, that both method below "private" are private?
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<shredding> E.g. does private mean "all following methods are private"?
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<hanmac> shredding, yes and no … if you use "private :methodname" then only this method is turned private
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<shredding> hanmac: okay, and if i add private \n all subsequent methods are private unless i define public / protected?
<hanmac> yeah like in C++
<shredding> hanmac: okay, I do not know c++
<shredding> A bit c
<shredding> thx!
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<shevy> hey
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<olivier_bK> @test = File.basename(@video_file ".*")
<olivier_bK> syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting end-of-input
<olivier_bK> i dont understand what i mistake
<canton7> did you mean to have a comma there?
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<olivier_bK> i found you need to write this
<olivier_bK> File.basename("#{@video_file}", ".*")
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<canton7> no you don't
<canton7> File.basename(@video_file, ".*")
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<shevy> olivier_bK this seems superfluos
<shevy> the "#{var}" stuff when var is enoguh
<shevy> man, I cant type today...
<shevy> *superfluous and *enough
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<shevy> it's way too hot here :(
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<olivier_bK> shevy, :)
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<olivier_bK> when i execute this
<olivier_bK> File.basename("#{@video_file}", ".*")
<claymore> why does require "matrix"; v = Vector.new([2,5]) complain about "new" being private, when v = Vector[2,5] is ok?
<olivier_bK> i get this ["saut3_SOA.mp4", "saut2_SOA
<olivier_bK>
<olivier_bK> he never close the array ??
<claymore> I thought Vector[2,5] was shorthand for Vector.new([2,5])
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<shevy> olivier_bK please
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<olivier_bK> yes
<shevy> olivier_bK can you first get rid of the "#{}" part ?
<Mon_Ouie> claymore: It's not, they made Vector.new private
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<shevy> it is 5 characters extra code which are not needed
<olivier_bK> shevy, how i can get it
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<claymore> Mon_Ouie: what's not? Vector[2,5] isn't ok?
<claymore> it works here
<Mon_Ouie> No, it's not a shortcut for Vector.new
<shredding> In PHP, you do string in 'single quotes' instead of "double quotes" when they do not contain variables, because of speed.
<olivier_bK> okai sorry i make an error
<olivier_bK> i try shevy
<claymore> Mon_Ouie: oh, then what is it?
<shevy> <olivier_bK> File.basename(@video_file, ".*")
<shevy> please ^^^
<shredding> I'd guess single quotes are faster in ruby too,?
<Mon_Ouie> It's the method to create a new Vector
<AikiLinux> Hello , I am having an issue with string interpolation and would like some help
<shredding> (It does not seem to be common to use single quotes).
<shevy> shredding should be a bit
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<shevy> shredding because it will be rather irrelevant, if you have to write a big ruby script, the bottlenecks will be somewhere else
<olivier_bK> shevy, if i write this he tell me `basename': no implicit conversion of Array into String (TypeError)
<shredding> I use rubymine and it complains about those "unessacary" double quotes.
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<claymore> Mon_Ouie: and what method in Vector does it call?
<shevy> olivier_bK then you feed it an array
<shredding> So I wonder if i should turn that off.
<shevy> olivier_bK you should pass a string
<shevy> olivier_bK, File.basename( [1,2,3] )# TypeError: can't convert Array into String
<shredding> (Because e.g. rails scaffolding uses double quotes)
<shevy> shredding rails uses ruby code or?
<Mon_Ouie> It happens to be new (could be done in other ways), but it has been made private — hence you need to use it to create new vectors
<shredding> shevy: Sure.
<shevy> ruby does not care much whether you use "" or '', substitutions through #{} are only done in "", not in ''
<shredding> (I'm fairly new to ruby)
<shevy> shredding you could make it your own rule to use "" only when you also use #{} or #
<claymore> Mon_Ouie: but how does it know to call new on it?
<claymore> I figured it was calling new somewhere
<shevy> shredding, $x = 'test'; y = "this is a #$x" # => "this is a test"
<AikiLinux> when i put the 'depends-on' value in a single quote string - it works , but in the example i provided it does not create the text at all
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<shredding> shevy: Okay, i got the difference, just thought there'd be a common standard.
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<Mon_Ouie> What do you mean? It just calls it directly
<shredding> Thanks.
<Mon_Ouie> def Vector.[](*array)
<waxjar> for loops are a big nono AikiLinux :p
<shevy> shredding but it's not a huge deal either. you could use '' too and append ... y = 'this is a '+$x or rather y = 'this is a '+$x.to_s to safeguard against nil (which #{} in "" is doing, I think it calls .to_s on the object)
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<Mon_Ouie> def Vector.[](*array); new convert_to_array(array, false); end
<shevy> shredding hmmm trying to find a standard in ruby can be difficult :)
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<shevy> shredding I think most people tend to use "" all the time, I use '' mostly
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<shredding> shevy: Okay, it's because I use PHP and python and standardization is a big thing there.
<claymore> Mon_Ouie: hmm, ok
<shevy> cool
<shredding> (Not so much in python though)
<waxjar> standardization a big thing in php?
<shevy> you are kinda multilingual
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<claymore> it's a bit clearer now, thanks
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<heftig> php is an organically grown mess
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<shredding> come on guys, not everytime.
<shevy> php is like 100 cooks cooking a meal as quickly as possible :D
<shevy> python is where there is only one cook, he is very strict but knows what he is doing
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<shredding> I found python very similar to ruby so far.
<shevy> ruby is like a cook who starts to cook, then wanders off to do random other things... like writing a book while also cooking at the same time
<shevy> shredding hmm it depends
<clocKwize> python is good, php not so. No flame wars though :D
<shredding> But i really start to like ruby, this passing around code blocks is very cool.
<shevy> from the syntax I think they are quite similar
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<shevy> but the philosophy is very, very different
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<shredding> shevy: is it?
<shevy> implicit vs. explicit self for instance
<heftig> that's also a consequence of ruby ALWAYS having a "self"
<heftig> there's no context where self is unavailable
<shevy> shredding, yeah.. the "there is more than one way to solve a problem", this shows in ruby and can become more complex :( It can be hard to understand code written by others, python code seems easier to understand most of the time
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<waxjar> was python an OO language from the start?
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<shevy> what I dislike about explicit self is that I wonder why an OO language needs to always be told where self is
<shevy> waxjar I am not sure... it depends on the definition perhaps... but I think they always said they are an OO language
<heftig> rust transitioned from implicit self to explicit self
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<shevy> I heard of python in ... 1998 or 1999 or something like that first, right after discovering perl .cgi, a guy from germany wrote his scripts in python back then, when perl was quite the hype still (for old school browser games)
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<shevy> I heard of ruby only later
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<shredding> shevy: it python everything is basically a property.
<heftig> to distinguish functions and methods, and because there are multiple ways self can be passed
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<shredding> So methods do not have any real binding to it's class, they are just function patched to an object.
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<shredding> It results in very cool patterns in the way introspection can be applied in python.
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<shevy> shredding hmm
<shevy> I think you can do that in ruby too... via method()
<shredding> shevy: I'm not really so deep in ruby yet.
<shevy> I am neither ;) I forget so much...
<shevy> ruby is unfortunately a bit complex
<shevy> method = "cat".method :upcase # => #<Method: String#upcase>
<shevy> method.call # => "CAT"
<shevy> "cat".upcase # => "CAT"
<clocKwize> shevy: I've never needed to do that
<shredding> But e.g. django does thinks like defining a model property like id = model.Integer(…) and then allows you to request id and get an integer in return and not an instance of the model.Integer() class.
<shevy> haha me neither :)
<clocKwize> I don't think I've used method
<shevy> I am often trying to find use cases for things in ruby...
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<clocKwize> hanmac: not blocks :o
<shevy> lambda is a good example, I still have not found a great use case for it
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<shredding> I've used method already once :)
<shevy> rack code uses lambda a lot
<hanmac> clocKwize: i mean that the callback works with blocks but it also works with method objects with &
<clocKwize> ahh hanmac
<clocKwize> I've used that, but only used not written support for
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<shredding> shevy: What's rack code?
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<clocKwize> I map(&:something) then reduce(&:+) like a pro
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<clocKwize> shredding: rack is the layer between a web server and a ruby web app… everything runs on it, rails, sinatra, etc, etc
<shredding> Ah, nice to know.
<shevy> shredding rack the famous webserver interface look at this page briefly http://rack.github.io/
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<clocKwize> then web servers just have to know how to talk to a rack app
<shredding> I've used method to reuse a code block like this: orders.collect!(&method(:extract_foreign_ids))
<shredding> Ah, like mod_wsgi
<shevy> clocKwize, yeah, I use & for short things like that too
<clocKwize> rack at its most basic is a class with a method called call, which takes the request hash and returns an array [status_code, headers-hash, response-body]
<shevy> %w( a b c ).map(&:upcase) # => ["A", "B", "C"]
<shevy> I can avoid having to use a variable that way
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<shevy> %w( a b c ).map {|_| _.upcase } # => ["A", "B", "C"]
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<hanmac> clocKwize: for sample some code of my bindings: Button.new(self,id: :close).tap {|button| button.bind(:button_clicked,method(:on_close)}
<clocKwize> shevy: _ shouldn't be used like that
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<banister`sleep> shredding: if you use funkify you can just do this: orders.collect(&extract_foreign_ids)
<shevy> hehe why not? It's the coolest variable... it has no name! :D
<banister`sleep> shredding: https://github.com/banister/funkify ;)
* hanmac is know not known as _
<clocKwize> shevy: its usage is really for parameter you don't use or care about I think ;p
<shevy> hehehe
<clocKwize> like blah { |_, _, useful_thing| puts useful_thing }
<shevy> yeah!
<shevy> I need to give things a name
<clocKwize> I've only used it once or twice maybe
<shevy> better yet is __ ;)
<heftig> use ¯
<heftig> or —
<shevy> though I have to say, I hate it when it is combined with other characters ... _object = 'hi' # I hate that ...
<hanmac> blah {|*,useful | } works too ,P
<shevy> __method__
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<clocKwize> hanmac: didn't know that
<clocKwize> ruby does have some weird syntax
<clocKwize> taken from perl
<clocKwize> $?! stuff
<clocKwize> $: too
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<shevy> yeah
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<shevy> the only $ I use are $1 and $2 etc..
* waxjar still wishes methods could end in ?!
<shevy> lol waxjar
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<shevy> I use ? a lot but barely ever ! ... dont know what to do with ?!
<shevy> def foo?!
<hanmac> or with ¿ :P
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<waxjar> ¿nil?
<clocKwize> now thats just silly
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<shevy> heeh
<shevy> nil ???
<shevy> oh
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<shevy> if x.nil?
<shevy> if x.nil?!
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<olivier_bK> how i can find in ruby all file with ending by .avi ?
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<olivier_bK> i try File.extname("*.avi") i get nothing or i try File.basename("*.avi") idem
<canton7> Dir['*.avi']
<canton7> (looks in the current directory)
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<olivier_bK> i found Dir.glob('*.mp4')
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<olivier_bK> thanks canton7
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<canton7> yup, Dir.glob(...) and Dir[...] do the same thing
<pontiki> hallo
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<olivier_bK> hallo
<olivier_bK> :)
<ravster> aloha
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<billy_ran_away> If I have a hash and some of the keys are strings of numbers (and others aren't) anyone know a slick one-liner to convert those that are numbers into integers?
<wald0> Im deciding if to switch or not to ruby for develop simple GUI applications, so Im doing a few tests, unfortunately Im unable to make this simple test working, any idea ? http://paste.debian.net/23667/
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<billy_ran_away> Ex… { "1" => :foo, "also strings" => :bar } becomes { 1 => :foo, "also strings" => :bar }
<DaniG2k> guys is there a way to remove all '\n' from a string?
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<DaniG2k> an easy way
<hanmac> DaniG2k gsub
<pontiki> .gsub(/\n/,'')
<DaniG2k> thnx
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<pontiki> billy_ran_away: do you need to do this conversion recursively through the hash? or just at the top level?
<MrZYX> wald0: go beyond "does not work", error message, expect vs actual output, anything
<billy_ran_away> pontiki: Just top level thank God!
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<pontiki> lol
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<wald0> my test should simply open a dialog window with a message in your language
<wald0> MrZYX: it should run the "zenity" command with the message inlcluded in the variable "text", but instead of that, the zenity command shows an error, it is strange so it looks like it is correctly run
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<MrZYX> you're unspecific again
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<MrZYX> what is the error
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<wald0> MrZYX: the zenity command shows an error instead of run, the error is: This option is not available. Please see --help for all possible usages.
<MrZYX> pontiki: DaniG2k also in this case #delete
<billy_ran_away> I got this… { "1" => :foo, "also string" => :bar }.reduce({}) { |memo, (k, v)| { k.to_i == 0 ? k : k.to_i => v }.merge(memo) }
<billy_ran_away> Anyone got anything slicker?
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<wald0> MrZYX: so basically seems like something is wrong using subexec, or me using my variable inside the command, maybe im doing it wrong ? (novice here)
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<MrZYX> there's no ' in the argument your interpolating?
<pontiki> billy_ran_away: what if k = "0" ?
<billy_ran_away> Can't happen.
<billy_ran_away> Won't happen.
<billy_ran_away> Shouldn't happen.
<Sou|cutter> billy_ran_away: that's more or less what I would have come up with
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<pontiki> haha
<pontiki> that's when it WILL happen :)
<billy_ran_away> :)
<billy_ran_away> There record IDs...
<billy_ran_away> They're I mean.
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<billy_ran_away> Sou|cutter: Sweet, great minds think alike?
<pontiki> i did k=k.to_if if k.match(/^([+-])?\d+$/
<billy_ran_away> Also mediocre ones too...
<pontiki> well
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<billy_ran_away> pontiki: Never seen that regex before...
<billy_ran_away> the [+-] what's that for?
<Sou|cutter> pontiki: yeah, that is more accurate for 0
<Sou|cutter> billy_ran_away: negative numbers
<pontiki> hash.each{|k,v| k=k.to_i if k.match(/^([+-])?\d+$/)}
<pontiki> "+1" is a number
<pontiki> "-12" is a number
<billy_ran_away> pontiki: Now that would just return an array of the keys wouldn't it?
<pontiki> the merge at the end will leave your array with both "1" and 1 as keys, btw
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<pontiki> oh crikey yeah
<billy_ran_away> No, that merge is inside the proc block for the reduce, the memo object starts fresh as {}
<pontiki> oh right, ok
<DaniG2k> if i have an xml file with a bunch of <resource url.../> tags that I'd like to split into an array
<pontiki> i should go back to bed
<DaniG2k> how can i do this?
<billy_ran_away> I like doing merges for reducing hashes so I don't have to explicity return the hash, unlike say this form… memo[new_key…] = v; memo
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<billy_ran_away> since the merge returns the new hash
<billy_ran_away> err modified hash
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<DaniG2k> im trying with file.split(/(<resource.*\/>)/) but it doesnt seem to make it into an array
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<pontiki> split throws away whatever your splitting on
<pontiki> i think you'd rather have scan there instead of split
<pontiki> that regexp is greedy tho
<pontiki> it will match everything up the last /> it can find
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<DaniG2k> well its greedy cause i need to get all of them
<DaniG2k> but split on the regex
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<cek> how do you alias to a method in different namespace?
<olivier_bK> i have a question
<olivier_bK> i dont know sorry deck
<olivier_bK> cek
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<olivier_bK> my variable @video_file get me an array and i need to remove the extension like .mp4 .avi etc...
<olivier_bK> for this i write @video_name = File.basename(@video_file, ".*")
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<olivier_bK> but in my loop @video_name.each do |i| puts "#{$i}" end i get
<olivier_bK> undefined method `each' for "[\"saut2_SOA.mp4\", \"saut3_SOA":String (NoMethodError)
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<hanmac> olivier_bK: String doesnt have each anymore
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<olivier_bK> so how i can make a loop in array
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<MrZYX> cek: define a method that calls that method
<cek> ugly. you should use def_delegator[s] from Forwardable
<MrZYX> or that, which doesn't do anything else
<shevy> olivier_bK please describe the problem
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<MrZYX> olivier_bK: File.basename returns a String, so you have a string, not an array
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<shevy> olivier_bK are you sure that @video_file is an Array?
<shevy> do:
<shevy> require 'pp'
<shevy> pp @video_file.class
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<shevy> olivier_bK always check your objects!
<MrZYX> also i and $i are two different variables
<olivier_bK> shevy, yes i m sure
<olivier_bK> ["saut2_SOA.mp4", "saut3_SOA.avi"].file
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<olivier_bK> that it's a puts of my variable
<MrZYX> doesn't make it an array
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<MrZYX> in fact it proves that it isn't an array
<pontiki> olivier_bK: please post your *actual* code in a gist
<MrZYX> Array#to_str doesn't append .file
<shevy> olivier_bK that does not make any sense man
<olivier_bK> ohhh
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<shevy> really do require 'pp'; pp @video_file.class <--- on all your variables. in your above code you have a string object, not an array. if you really would have an array, you could do this:
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<MrZYX> also your variable names should be plurals if they're intended to be arrays
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<shevy> olivier_bK, %w( abc.avi def.mp4 hij.ogg ).map {|entry| entry.sub(File.extname(entry),'') } # => ["abc", "def", "hij"]
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<wald0> MrZYX: sorry, i was out... right, there's no ' values
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<wald0> MrZYX: i have noticed that including #{var} without '' it shows only the single word (correctly translated), but not the entire sentence
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<MrZYX> if I copy paste your example it works for me
<wald0> with "echo" it shows correctly the sentence, this is very strange
<MrZYX> using english as system locale
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<wald0> MrZYX: try to prepend a different locale, for example mine (which is hte one that not works) is spanish, so: LC_ALL=es_ES.UTF-8 zenity --info...
<wald0> or try to prepend set_locale "value" which i think that is the correct ruby equivalent
<wald0> i mean, previous line (not tried)
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<MrZYX> I guess I just don't have the necessary translations
<wald0> MrZYX: well, tried, it works too on english but translating the message to spanish for example returns an error in zenity
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<MrZYX> so copy paste the translated message
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<wald0> MrZYX: maybe your OS has not the spanish locale generated (which i dont know if is a reason for not work, but maybe), otherwise it should work for you using "echo" instead of zenity (correctly shows the translated message" and including a previous line saying: set_locale "es_ES.UTF-8"
<wald0> Todas las actualizaciones están terminadas.
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<MrZYX> it still works for me if I do text = "Todas las actualizaciones están terminadas."
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<wald0> MrZYX: very strange, doing the same thing as you doens't works for me... at least using á
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<MrZYX> which ruby version?
<wald0> 1.9.3
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<wald0> MrZYX: btw if i do "echo $LANG" it shows me "C", which i think that it should have problems showing utf8 chars... this can be the cause that subexec doesn't runs correctly the command
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<MrZYX> try adding the magic comment as first/second line to interpret the file as utf8: # encoding: utf-8
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<wald0> same thing
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<MrZYX> with that it works for me on 1.9 too
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<wald0> MrZYX: tell me if this one popups you the window correctly in spanish, and also see if in the last line in your terminal it says "C" or other thing (before :END) http://paste.debian.net/23688/
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<MrZYX> popup is correct, output is http://paste.mrzyx.de/p4f9232df/
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<wald0> MrZYX: interesting, i have only "C :END" in my output, seems like LC_ALL is not set by some reason
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<harumph> hey, would you expect this pattern to work:
<harumph> foo1, foo2, foo3 = if something
<harumph>
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<harumph> [cat1, cat2, cat3]
<harumph>
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<ryanf> harumph: yes, I would
<ryanf> does it?
<pontiki> [lol, lol, lol]
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<harumph> no, but the pattern must not be the issue
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<MrZYX> it works for me
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<mtmcfarl> If I have an array like ["GSV", "GSVHELLO", "GSVSTAFF"], I only want to return the count of the number of "GSV" exactly.
<mtmcfarl> I tried arr.grep(/\bcategory\b/).flatten.count where category is the param i pass into the method in the model.
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<lethjakman> is there a gem to recursively download a website?
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<apeiros> lethjakman: yes
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<mtmcfarl> ryanf: perfect! thank you. love simple solutions.
<r0bgleeson> lethjakman: spidr
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<r0bgleeson> another postmodern production
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<lethjakman> r0bgleeson: can you link me?
<lethjakman> I'm not seeing it on google
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<pontiki> did you look on rubygems?
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<apeiros> @ lethjakman
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<lethjakman> apeiros: I definitely searched spyder ruby and it came up with clothing stores.
<apeiros> lethjakman: well, it helps typing "spidr" instead of "spyder" when that's the name r0bgleeson actually gave you
<apeiros> (the generic term is spider btw. - and https://www.ruby-toolbox.com/search?utf8=✓&q=spider and https://www.ruby-toolbox.com/categories/http_clients are relevant links there)
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<lethjakman> ahh thanks
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<cek> psych outputs binary: things when to_yaml
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<cek> how do i tell him ascii-8bit is okay to dump?
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<Torstein> why cant i use repeaters in this regex? /(?<=Lov om.*)/
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<Torstein> >> "should this not be valid".gsub(/(?<=this.*)/, "be valid")
<eval-in> Torstein => /tmp/execpad-ca8b2eb9aacf/source-ca8b2eb9aacf:2: invalid pattern in look-behind: /(?<=this.*)/ (https://eval.in/41708)
<Torstein> >> "should this not be valid".gsub(/(?<=this....)/, "be valid")
<eval-in> Torstein => "should this notbe valid be valid" (https://eval.in/41709)
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<Torstein> ideas?
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<Torstein> so how do i work around it?
<ryanf> you can probably use a match group instead of lookbehind
<ryanf> what exactly are you trying to do?
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<ryanf> actually you might not even need that
<ryanf> [10] pry(main)> "should this not be valid".gsub(/this .*/, "\\0 be valid")
<ryanf> => "should this not be valid be valid"
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<Torstein> im trying to convert a line of text into a markdown headline. that is, i know that the headline is in the form "Breaking: something something unique".
<Torstein> so the next line should be "=====..."
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<MrZYX> so you're condition is that it starts with Breaking and you want to insert ======= at the next line?
<Torstein> yeah
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<MrZYX> iterate all lines, build a new array on the go, insert the additional line if line =~ /^Breaking:/
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<ryanf> gsub with a block wouldn't be a bad call here actually
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<ryanf> but you don't need lookbehind. you can just write the pattern normally, then make the block add the appropriate number of =s etc
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<ramblex> Torstein: or you could use atx-style headers: # Breaking:
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<Torstein> thats probably the best way ramblex :)
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<MrZYX> "Breaking: fooo bar".gsub(/^Breaking: .+/) { "#{$~[0]}\n#{'='*$~[0].size}" } ? hmmm
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<brotatos> Why isn't this script removing the double quotes from the string? https://gist.github.com/brotatos/e65c82d2aedb6874f42d
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<tjbiddle> Good morning #ruby :-)
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<onewheelskyward> morning!
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<tjbiddle> >> "Breaking: fooo bar".gsub(/^Breaking: .+/) { "#{$~[0]}\n#{'='*$~[0].size}" }
<eval-in> tjbiddle => "Breaking: fooo bar\n==================" (https://eval.in/41710)
<onewheelskyward> brotatos because there aren't any double quotes in your test string?
<brotatos> onewheelskyward: when i print it out, I get "http..." though
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<onewheelskyward> What's the value of pull[:html_url] before your gsub?
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<onewheelskyward> >> '"https://github.com/iFixit/git-scripts/pull/86"'.gsub /"/, ''
<brotatos> huh
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<onewheelskyward> It is removing them, those quotes are just because it's a string.
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<brotatos> Oh, silly pp.
<onewheelskyward> real-time debug for the win. :)
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<joelteon> has anybody had this happen with hpricot before? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/da177b6caaf1c67db677
<joelteon> I feel like it's rbenv-related
<joelteon> also "Symbol not found: _ruby_digitmap" returns 4 google results which are all useless
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<cek> why isn't db:migrate:reset showing at me?
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<MrZYX> cek: -> #RubyOnRails
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<joelteon> ah, never mind, I got it
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<diegoviola> hi
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<diegoviola> excuse me for the question, but i just got some offer for a job from some recruiter, they are offering a low-pay python/c++ (possibly ruby) job, the pay is less than average, i could use the experience but i'm not sure whether to get the job or not, what would you guys do?
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<r0bgleeson> diegoviola: have you had a developer job before?
<diegoviola> r0bgleeson: yes
<r0bgleeson> so not great for experience then?
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<MasterAsia> diegoviola: I wouldn't go through recruiters
<MasterAsia> they are scum and just want a cut of your paycheck.
<MasterAsia> Go organic.
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<diegoviola> well, maybe i'll learn something new there or maybe i won't, who knows, what disappointed me though is that i asked for X pay and they called next day offering Y, but they also offered dental, lunch and transport (bus), they need me to have a checking bank account, and all that stuff is going to subtract from the salary they already lowered down, and all that is like 10-12 hours per day of work
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<diegoviola> so in other words, it sucks
<kaldrenon> diegoviola: Generally, if it is a low-pay position and you are contacted by a recruiter, you are not the one who will profit from the deal.
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<diegoviola> right
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<futile> Got a Ruby challenge for anyone interested:
<futile> Write idiomatic code that does two things. Given an input string, give a list of all lines ending in \n, with the \n included. If the last line does not end with \n, give that separately. Perform some user-defined action on each line from the first step, omitting any final line not ending with \n.
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<diegoviola> kaldrenon: right
<diegoviola> thanks guys
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<MasterAsia> futile: sounds like you need that for school. :P
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<futile> MasterAsia: I'm doing a blog post comparing languages, so I need the most idiomatic version of each.
<futile> MasterAsia: I could write my own version but I'm sure you can do better.
<popl> futile: have you heard of rosettacode.org?
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<futile> And I don't want to taint your creativity.
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<MasterAsia> futile: What do you mean by 'lastline'?
<MasterAsia> The last line of the input string?
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<futile> MasterAsia: yes, if you were to do lines.split('\n'), the last element
<waxjar> is comparing languages very useful if you need to ask other people for idiomatic code?
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<futile> waxjar: I'd like to see what "the best Ruby people" come up with.
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<MasterAsia> futile: ask mats. :P
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<kaldrenon> waxjar: I can see the logic; if I wanted to see idiomatic code for multiple languages, I'd ask language experts in each language to help me out.
<waxjar> it seems to me that it would be quite a superficial comparison, then
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<waxjar> along the lines of "language x uses curly braces, language y uses do .. end statements"
<futile> Here's two simple test-cases to see if your solution works: https://gist.github.com/sdegutis/6187110
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<MrZYX> you only ever expect one or zero "other" lines?
<MrZYX> and empty string has to be returned not nil/null?
<kaldrenon> waxjar: That depends how different things get when you talk about 'idiomatic' code. You could write a for i; i < 10; i++ style loop in any language but a for look in C++ looks fairly different from a ruby map{}, and other languages have other iteration styles.
<futile> MrZYX: right
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<waxjar> fair enough i guess
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<futile> no takers?
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<kaldrenon> I'll write an api to post the problem description as a question on StackOverflow.
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<futile> LOL
<Mayumi> hi!
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<MrZYX> futile: http://paste.mrzyx.de/p1e465674/ can't say it feels perfect
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<MrZYX> oh and ruby 2.0 btw
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<futile> MrZYX: naming it is part of the challenge ;)
<MrZYX> I see no pratical use for that, so no idea how to name it
<futile> ok
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<popl> futile: Do we get extra points for giving it to you in person?
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<futile> sure why not
<MrZYX> futile: http://paste.mrzyx.de/pd222343a/ here's a version that takes procs/lambdas
<popl> 11:17 < futile> waxjar: I'd like to see what "the best Ruby people" come up with.
<popl> futile: that statement is almost guaranteed not to produce work from "the best Ruby people"
<popl> unless you meant that sarcastically
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<popl> in which case it will
<popl> :)
<MrZYX> hard to measure anyway IMO
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<popl> indubitably :)
<futile> MrZYX: it works
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<futile> popl: :)
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<popl> ask bnagy
<futile> well, at least you guys are giving solutions
<futile> the other language channels are gonna look really bad in this blog post for not giving any
<MrZYX> don't want to say it's "the perfect solution", certainly shows some idioms though
<futile> and you guys are gonna come off as very generous and kind :)
<popl> pfft
<futile> on account of thats what people think of people who help out
<popl> to your entire readership, huh?
<kaldrenon> Something tells me this blog post will be a futile effort.
<popl> I guess what your mom thinks about people on IRC is important.
<waxjar> badum tsssh
<futile> ha
<futile> good one
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<futile> i laughed at it
<futile> cuz it was funny
<futile> i said "oh burrrn!"
<futile> and then "o snap bruh!"
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<kaldrenon> Gawrsh.
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<futile> MrZYX: can you split steps 1 and 2 into two separate functions?
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<MrZYX> what would be the return value? [lines, last_line] ?
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<MrZYX> that makes no sense, if the lines are already separated by the first method, why should the second one separate them again? also that would require to undo the separation
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<futile> k
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<MrZYX> I'm starting to wonder if you ever tried implementing the requirements yourself...
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<futile> MrZYX: i wrote that one
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<futile> MrZYX: i could transliterate it into Ruby but that doesnt make it automatically idiomatic Ruby code
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<futile> MrZYX: but i dont know if you understand it without it being in ruby cuz i dont know if you know clojure
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<futile> MrZYX: so to answer your question, no, i dont take insult in you thinking its something i dont know how to do
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<MrZYX> http://paste.mrzyx.de/pf71d3042/ not sure what it gives...
<MrZYX> given the abstraction is at different levels in do_with_lines now
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<futile> MrZYX: it could be a class too if thats easier in ruby
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<futile> i explicitly omitted any mention of how the action was to be performed
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<MrZYX> as said I'm not sure what the practical use would be so it makes it a bit harder
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<futile> MrZYX: you can test them individually more easily
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<futile> MrZYX: and you can re-use one without the other.
<futile> or at another time than the other.
<futile> etc etc
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<wald0> what is a good IDE for ruby for linux ? specially for novice/learning ruby
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<rererered> go to the best chenel #pki
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<wald0> i personally know/like vim, but is for a friend which is discovering ruby (and linux)
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<onewheelskyward> wald0 RubyMine.
<kaldrenon> wald0: Don't give up on persuading your friend that vim is delightful.
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<onewheelskyward> vim is many things, but delightful? :)
<kaldrenon> onewheelskyward: Yes.
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<kaldrenon> Vim is the only editor I've ever used where discovering a new feature actually made me *laugh* with pleasant surprise.
<MrZYX> futile: class version http://paste.mrzyx.de/p524afc72/ take whatever you like, I can't recommend any for the reasons already mentioned
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<futile> thanks
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<Neener54> Sublime Text is a great editor if they don't want to learn vim and don't want to buy rubymine
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<ericwood> it's like $50
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<ericwood> but keep in mind if you actually work somewhere they'll most likely expense it
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<Rylai> ericwood: actually
<Rylai> it'sl ike uhh
<Rylai> $70 by now
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<ericwood> aah okay
<ericwood> I just use macvim
<ericwood> so...
<Rylai> way too much imo :p
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<Rylai> when you've got such great editors as vim for free (and open source)
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<ericwood> eh it's a quality piece of software, and probably the primary tool you use to do your job if you use itw
<ericwood> so $70 honestly isn't that bad
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<ericwood> but if your job will pay for it you don't have to worry about that
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<onewheelskyward> $70 isn't bad at all for something you'll spend most of your days using.
<onewheelskyward> If it makes anything easier, it's worth the money.
<ericwood> ^^^^^^^^
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<wald0> kaldrenon: its just about that she has just started, i dont want to saturate her
<wald0> just tried Arcadia, but it gives me a "permission denied" trying to run a simple line, otherwise it looks pretty nice
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<wald0> onewheelskyward: i checked it and looks pretty nice, but.. is not free (of charge) ?
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<onewheelskyward> Not for commercial use. There's a 30 day trial and you can get it for free if you work on open source projects.
<wald0> ouch Sublime Text is also paying :/
<onewheelskyward> Free wasn't one of your requirements. :)
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<MrZYX> sublime text is free to evaluate for ever, it just bugs you with a "please buy me" every couple saves
<whitenoise> i converted my entire office to Sublime Text from Aptana and TextMate
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<futile> wald0: i recommend sublime text. even if you dont pay.
<wald0> oh well, that sounds nice then for just learning a bit of ruby
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<onewheelskyward> Aptana...wow.
<wald0> thx for the suggstions, i will give a try :)
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<whitenoise> i call myself the Sublime Text evangelist
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<wald0> Arcadia nobody uses ?
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<onewheelskyward> Sublime is nice, if you get the right plugins.
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<futile> i use emacs for work but only because Sublime Text doesnt have mature Clojure plugins yet
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<whitenoise> when I was a PHP Developer I used Eclipse.
<whitenoise> but i hated how heavy it was.
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<Mattias> vim for everything
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<whitenoise> i can go just as fast in Sublime as a really good VIM person can in VIM.
<whitenoise> especially since you can enable VIM shortcuts in Sublime.
<wald0> only 5 mb ? wtf... this interface looks really nice, i need to look which interface it uses
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<Mattias> whitenoise: what about in the terminal? can sublime do that?
<whitenoise> Mattias: why do you need to on a development machine? i use vim when i'm doing remote server work for configurations and that's it.
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<whitenoise> and it does have the 'subl' cli tool for opening files or entire directories as projects from the commandline
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<Mattias> I'm a terminal person
<Mattias> ＼(^o^)／
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<wald0> can i re-edit a line that is already writed in "pry" ?
<whitenoise> Mattias: me too, i have a terminal open all the time and do most everything through it. operating a computer through the terminal is way faster than through a GUI
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<havenwood> wald0: Yes, the `edit` command. Check out `help edit`.
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<onewheelskyward> The thing I like about JetBrains IDEs is that when it loses focus, it writes the file to disk. I haven't hit ⌘-s in years.
<whitenoise> nice
<onewheelskyward> Never again would you wonder whether or not your changes take effect.
<whitenoise> so it sort of has the Google Drive complex
<havenwood> I'm really happy with TextMate 2.
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<onewheelskyward> Something like that. And it has a built-in minute-by-minute local revision history.
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<havenwood> Been meaning to try rmate from a remote machine, as I just vim it usually.
<whitenoise> i have one of those via SCM
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<onewheelskyward> you have to commit to the scm though, right?
<whitenoise> newp
<onewheelskyward> Oh that is neat, then.
<havenwood> I <3 how TM2 will eval in-line #=>'s.
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<havenwood> Seen the same in Emacs. I'm assuming Sublime has some way to eval inline, or is that a plugin?
<whitenoise> plugin
<whitenoise> oh
<whitenoise> and all textmate plugins will work in sublime
<onewheelskyward> Everything in sublime is a plugin. That's one of the things that annoys me about it.
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<whitenoise> because i think Ryan Bates made a TM plugin for Rails shortcuts
<havenwood> I actually bought Sublime but don't use it. I really like the code preview feature.
<whitenoise> and I know some people who use that, but I don't actually use any plugins for anything...so
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<havenwood> I was stoked to see TM2 go open source.
<whitenoise> i did not know it did that!
<whitenoise> does that mean its free now?
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<havenwood> GPL 3
<havenwood> free as in speech
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<havenwood> And open source contributions rolling in. :)
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<Nilium> It's been doing pretty well as open source.
<whitenoise> very nice...guess they figure there's enough free competition out there to charge for it is no longer feasible? ..or that they've just made enough money off of it
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<Nilium> I think it's more that Alan just planned to do this from the start and got tired of working on it himself.
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<zendeavor> i write code in Acme
<zendeavor> emacs and vim are *so* passe.
* Nilium ties up zendeavor and stuffs him in a box.
<whitenoise> does anyone actually write code in Xcode?
<whitenoise> because i have found that to be the worst thing ever
<havenwood> whitenoise: People do.
<zendeavor> no it's just a fancy compiler
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<whitenoise> Xcode, LLVM and a lot of pay-for-me applications was the thing I hated about getting a Mac.
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<whitenoise> I still hate LLVM and Xcode.
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<zendeavor> hey man, don't hate on llvm
* whitenoise hates on llvm
<havenwood> em-omgwtfbbq-scripten
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<onewheelskyward> lol
<zendeavor> =[
<IceDragon> wow man, let war drizzle and peace rain man... no hating just love.
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* zendeavor pops out of the box
<zendeavor> out of the box
<whitenoise> i have had too many headaches where I'm trying to get some library rolling with homebrew...such as ImageMagick, and Mac's non-standard GCC/LLVM setup giving me problems...when I could just one-line it in a Linux VM...which is why I now keep a Linux VM handy for working on certain projects.
<havenwood> ^ mruby interpreter in js
<zendeavor> yeah sure when it comes to that...that's what you get for using osx
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<whitenoise> yes
* zendeavor blows raspberry
<zendeavor> where's my cage.
<whitenoise> otherwise I love developing on OS X, especially when I need an iPhone simulator for a mobile application or something.
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<IceDragon> havenwood: niceness :D
<zendeavor> mobile and web give me migraines
<Nilium> I never really have any trouble with OS X preferring Clang over gcc.
<zendeavor> you haven't tried hard enough then.
<wald0> btw i have an error installing pry as a local (user) gem, about a parsing error in "ls.rb", anybody has the same problem ?
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<Nilium> Sometimes things still try to use gcc, which means I have to force them to build with Clang, but otherwise it's fine.
<havenwood> Apple LLVM version 5.0 (clang-500.1.65) (based on LLVM 3.3svn)
<havenwood> ^ Mavericks
<sanitypassing> how does the ruby library compare to python's in terms of modules/libraries that are shipped with the runtime?
<Nilium> I'm looking forward to 10.9, just because it seems Apple is actually bringing their GL support slightly up to speed.
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<Nilium> I can only imagine the horrible driver bugs I'm going to encounter.
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<wald0> mmmh... looks like Sublime Text is made in Python with GTK, if im not wrong
<zendeavor> does it have anything as exciting as 10.7
<zendeavor> fullscreen apps
<Nilium> The multiple monitors stuff looks good.
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<havenwood> multiple monitors can have multiple fullscreen apps, which is something *you'd think* would already have been available.
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<zendeavor> ...
<Nilium> You'd think, but Apple has a way with not doing things.
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<Nilium> I think each monitor also gets a menu bar as well, now.
<havenwood> And then "WE'VE JUST INVENTED COPY/PASTE" bow down!
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<Nilium> And the dock? Can't remember.
<zendeavor> i'm not gonna knock it, because apple will probably do a pretty good job with the implementation
<zendeavor> but like...
<zendeavor> apple is half a decade behind
<Nilium> I think the virtual desktop stuff is also screen-independent now too, but I'm out of the loop on this crap.
<BrianJ> is there a way i can have ruby look through directories to find a file without giving it a specific path?
<Nilium> .. What do you mean by not giving it a specific path?
<zendeavor> where do you expect it to look, without a path
<BrianJ> i mean i'd give it a directory
<popl> zendeavor: That's very Zen.
<BrianJ> with several sub directories
<Nilium> And why aren't you just being specific with your question in the first place?
<popl> BrianJ: That's a path. :P
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<zendeavor> BrianJ: you want it to recurse?
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<BrianJ> ya
<Nilium> zendeavor: http://www.apple.com/osx/preview/#multiple-displays ← Basically, see that for the multiple monitor stuff.
<zendeavor> look up recursive techniques
<zendeavor> Nilium: no u
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<zendeavor> i'm not reading their propaganda
<popl> haha
<Nilium> -_-
<popl> zendeavor isn't a slave to the system
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<Nilium> You're not capable of just reading objectively then?
<zendeavor> i'm a slavedriver of the system
<whitenoise> just like my friends who live off of welfare to "fight the system"
<Nilium> Fair enough, insanity is insanity
<awpti> Howdy folks. I've been all over the docs and can't figure this out. How do I include a simple set of variables from an external file? I've tried include, require, require_relative and load. They all proclaim there's no variable defined.
<popl> zendeavor throws it on the ground
<zendeavor> Nilium: after i'm done deleting elements from the page
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<Nilium> What do you mean include a set of variables?
<whitenoise> awpti: mayhaps you should make a gist or pastebin
<Nilium> Do you mean local variables?
<Nilium> Constants? Globals?
<Nilium> I guess constants don't really count as variables even though they're technically modifiable
<awpti> It's a simple procedural script. Uno momento.
<zendeavor> sounds like the meet the criteria then
<Nilium> zendeavor makes Stallman look like a sane, rational human being
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<whitenoise> Nilium: I defined a global constant inside of a local scope.
<zendeavor> thanks, i try
<whitenoise> did i just blow your mind? probably not.
<Nilium> Probably not, but you did make me slowly shake my fist.
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<whitenoise> lol
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<shevy> lol
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<Nilium> Try harder and I might even say something about my lawn and your being on it.
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<zendeavor> amateur
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<Nilium> Best case scenario? I go into a full-on rant about cucumbers.
<awpti> There we go.
<Nilium> Can we see config.rb?
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<Nilium> Also, that's not how include works.
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<shevy> yes
<awpti> Config.rb is just user = "username", pass="pass". Nothing is in a class, no methods.
<shevy> awpti include wants upcased character and no string
<shevy> include Foo
<shevy> include Bar
<Nilium> What shevy means is that include takes a module.
<shevy> awpti do require 'config.rb'
<Nilium> e.g., module Foo ; end ; include Foo
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<shevy> or require_relative or something
<Nilium> Can we see the actual config.rb file?
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<Nilium> Not just you saying what's in it. Pony up the file.
<shevy> awpti user = "username" will be local to the file you require, so it won't work in your code there
<Nilium> I should look up the origin of 'pony up'
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<Nilium> That is a weird phrase.
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<shevy> sounds like ponies having sex
<Nilium> Well I'm not one to judge.
<slash_nick> ponies are small beers...
<whitenoise> there is that song 'ride the pony', but i think that's about something different.
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<Nilium> Ah, pony glasses
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<Nilium> awpti: You're never going to be able to access those variables.
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<awpti> I've had a hard time finding anything clear on the concept of requiring/including external files. I come from a long background with PHP.. went with some assumptions at first, read the docs.. I guess I don't understand what's required/needed in thius case.
<awpti> s/thius/this/
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<Nilium> That stuff is all local to its file. It's not coming out. Use constants.
<shevy> awpti no no
<shevy> awpti first, when you want to load a .rb file, you use require() or load() ok?
<shevy> in your code you use include, which I wonder where you got that from
<Nilium> Probably a PHP-ism.
<shevy> well, awpti it is just some basic terminology in ruby. remember... load and require to fetch .rb files, include and extend to work with modules ok
<awpti> shevy, every tutorial I've read proclaims include is the way to go. I'll ignore them, then. Possibly just old-arse tuts.
<shevy> awpti, yes but if you want to include a module
<awpti> That makes more sense.
<shevy> module Foo; def test; puts 'hi from test'; end; end; include Foo # <-- test() now works in your code, a method call
<shevy> awpti think of modules just as namespaces
<shevy> with common functionality and reusability for your projects
<Nilium> Think of modules as bundles of methods.
<awpti> It's hard to shift away from phpisms after almost 15 unfortunate years.
<shevy> I have one module that I called save_file()
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<Nilium> Bundles of methods and classes and thingies.
<shevy> awpti that is good, you had a lot of experience then :)
<shevy> I did php only for 2 years
<shevy> it was not that bad ... but ruby has the better design
<shevy> I did perl for half a year
<zendeavor> amateurs always say "php wasn't that bad"
<zendeavor> amateur
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<shevy> I had a nice book about regexes but other than that, php was better than perl
<awpti> I've only done it on a hobby basis. Professionally for < a year. PHP's internal stupidity and inconsistency finally got the best of me.
<shevy> perl is an unusable language
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<shevy> yeah, inconsistency is a big problem for every language. or rather, the rise of complexity after a while
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<popl> FUD
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<awpti> My primary interest in Ruby is automation. The simplicity and clarity of the language are.. attractive.
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<popl> shevy: What sort of Perl were you using?
<shevy> popl only the basics
<popl> Probably something from the Perl 4 days.
<popl> shevy: Moose?
<shevy> popl after a few months I did not understand my own code
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<shevy> popl hmm.. I think in 2001 or 2002
<shevy> I switched to ruby 2004
<shevy> the good part of the perl book was about the regexes
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<popl> Someone came into #perl yesterday asking for help in a class.
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<popl> This person was in a university in Canada.
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<popl> The class was a class about web programming.
<popl> The instructor was using a textbook that was written in 2001.
<shevy> awpti, change your script a bit? the include part at least, replace with load or require? https://gist.github.com/gominecraft/6188127
<shevy> hehe cool
<popl> We don't use any of that stuff anymore.
<shevy> I have to learn python for university :(
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<awpti> shevy, I've replaced the vars with constants and am now using require_relative. It works :)
<patrikf> ruby is like python done right
<popl> This is the part of IRC I hate.
<popl> Constant religio-babble.
<shevy> awpti, cool that was fast
<popl> Zealotry doesn't help anyone.
* zendeavor sacrifices a buffalo to the Zend framework
<shevy> popl when I say that ruby is a better language than perl, this is a factual statement
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<awpti> I pretty much like every language. Some are just hard to grasp <for me.. I have a hard time with OOP concepts>
<popl> shevy: No, it isn't.
<popl> shevy: It's your opinion.
<shevy> popl yes it is. give me something where perl is better
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<popl> shevy: Something like that is inherently subjective.
<awpti> I'm a mild fan of C#, Python, PHP, Java, etc.
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<shevy> popl you deny that objective statements can be made
<popl> shevy: No.
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<shevy> popl: Yes.
<popl> Say whatever you want.
<zendeavor> popl: this is the part of IRC that i hate
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<zendeavor> people that hate parts of things and then partiticipate in those things
<awpti> Objective statements about preference are subjective to everyone else. :p
<popl> zendeavor: What?
<shevy> awpti one could compare individual components
<shevy> lines of code required, amount of time required to solve problems and so forth and so on
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<shevy> speed!
<Eiam> hmm i need to convert from using curb for my requests to something async
<Eiam> any recommendations?
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<awpti> shevy, when you drill down, you certainly make statements that are more objectively/evidence based, sure. In the end, you still end up with preference. :p
<popl> zendeavor: What do you mean by participate?
<Eiam> faraday + eventmachine?
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<shevy> awpti sure, but I use what is better still, based on experience. If you climb a mountain with proper tools you may be able to climb up further than without the proper tools
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<awpti> I concur completely.
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<popl> zendeavor: If I like Ruby and Python and Perl, then I can hang out in the channels on freenode. People always bash Perl in those other two channels though. That makes me sad.
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<popl> That's all I'm getting at.
<shevy> perl has more competition these days
<whitenoise> popl: I heard tale of a group of people who were bashing Perl at a convention, and the guy who wrote Perl was sitting behind them. And he turned around and explained that Perl was never supposed to be what it currently it, he just wrote it as some sort of parser.
<havenwood> Eiam: I recommend looking at HTTPClient.
<shevy> I see it as a good thing, if the language is still alive, it provides an incentive to change and improve on it.
<Eiam> thats not even in the list
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<popl> heh
<Eiam> oh there it is
<havenwood> Eiam: The httpclient author put the list together. :P
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<Eiam> havenwood: yeah i just wasn't seeing it =) https://github.com/nahi/httpclient
<Eiam> doesn't support GSSAP?
<Eiam> API
<havenwood> Eiam: If you want to stay in the curl vein, there's typhoeus.
<shevy> whitenoise, yeah, that makes sense, just how the WWW changed so many things, with all the smartphones and mobile apps becoming so important, barely anyone could know this in 1995
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<havenwood> Eiam: Dunno.
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<Eiam> havenwood: I've got existing code in curb, basically if the user doesn't give me an authenticated session, I have to use curb. if they give me a pre-authenticated session, I want to async/MT the shit out of everything
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<Eiam> I don't have any particular "like" of curb
<Eiam> its just a lib i guess
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<shevy> sadly I have not heard of curb before
<havenwood> shevy: curb/patron/typhoeus are the curl wrappers for ruby
<Eiam> GSSAPI is important for people that want to do lots of corporate auth stuff
<Eiam> since its kerberos auth basicaly
<Eiam> most frameworks/libraries don't implement or support it
<shevy> ah
<havenwood> Eiam: I wouldn't be surprised if httpclient actually suported. Typhoeus does parallel curl requests so maybe that would be workable. Faraday supports Typhoeus, hrm.
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<havenwood> Eiam: httpclient supports more auth than most, dunno though
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<havenwood> Would it be NTLM auth support that is required?
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<havenwood> Eiam: Yeah, looks like one of the curl wrappers or httpclient are a good bet. HTTPClient/Typhoeus are my final recommendation. :P
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<RustyShackleford> I don't mean to offend, but is is ruby used much outside of Rails?
<havenwood> RustyShackleford: Yes, it actually is. Even super computers.
<shevy> RustyShackleford, it depends
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<shevy> RustyShackleford I think it fills a niche like perl or python, like small things that you want to do on your computer, perhaps in an automated way
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<havenwood> shevy: Hundreds of thousands of lines of Ruby in aerospace and defense stuff, etc.
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<shevy> RustyShackleford I came to ruby before rails
<zendeavor> but you came way harder after rails
<shevy> havenwood sounds cool, I would not know, I have no experience in that at all :) how comes you know such things?
<RustyShackleford> yeah I'm much better with python. Trying to learn rails and I'm not great at reading ruby
<RustyShackleford> I should do a project euler with ruby
<havenwood> shevy: Lockheed threw down big time on Ruby. Simulates hardware and software with Ruby before real stuff exists.
<shevy> zendeavor nope, whether rails exists or not does not make a big difference to me, it's like a separate community as far as I feel it. extremely specialized too
<zendeavor> truth
<shevy> RustyShackleford I see
<Eiam> yeah seriously
<Eiam> rails is totally outside my domain now
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<shevy> well that is interesting to hear
<Eiam> i think of it as its own thing
<shevy> a python guy looking at ruby through rails :)
<zendeavor> you know what blows my mind about all the programming channels?
<Eiam> I learned python via Twisted
<Eiam> and ruby via "rails"=)
<zendeavor> all the questions are about extremely simple tasks
<Eiam> "ruby" via rails, rather
<zendeavor> no one ever has a complex question
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<Eiam> zendeavor: because its hard to ask a complex question
<zendeavor> everyone with the complex problems solves them alone
<Eiam> complex questions usually involve a lot of state
<shevy> zendeavor, well I used to have... but people rarely answer these :(
<havenwood> Doing project Eulers with Blockly is pretty fun. :P http://blockly-demo.appspot.com/static/apps/code/code.html
<Eiam> and a lot of code
<zendeavor> a question with a complex solution, is what i really mean.
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<havenwood> If you know enough to ask a complex question you may know better where to find the answer.
<Eiam> to answer any of my complex questions Id have to give you access to my database and all my code
<zendeavor> that's the point
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<shevy> the cool questions I would have would be to do things like paco, in Ruby-C http://paco.sourceforge.net/doc/README
<Eiam> plus why would I spend 4 hours of my time figuring out someone else's complex problem
<zendeavor> there are almost never "difficult" questions
<Eiam> =)
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<shevy> yeah Eiam
<havenwood> zendeavor: Difficult to figure out what the hell people are talking about sometimes! :P
<zendeavor> but it doesn't matter, no one ever asks a tough question
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<zendeavor> it almost always boils down to "you forgot a <thing>"
<shevy> ok zendeavor
<Eiam> eh i've seen some good ones in here
<zendeavor> or "you used the wrong method"
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<shevy> one day I will ask you a complex question
<havenwood> or know a thing in another language and want the corresponding thing
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<zendeavor> yeah that too
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<zendeavor> i'm not looking for the complex questions to pop up, i'm just shocked that so many people hang around these channels, idling for years
<shevy> idling rules man
<shevy> I have a small xchat window open here, browse various things in firefox, test ruby code in konsole and my editor...
<Eiam> hell yeah it does..
<Eiam> [13:29:34] <@IdleBot> Eiam, the level 50 Software Dilettante, is now online from nickname Eiam. Next level in 11 days, 00:32:35.
<Eiam> #idlerpg vet
<Eiam> thats like a year straight of idling.
<shevy> Eiam hehe I dont even have the time displayed... only the nicks and what they say
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<Eiam> and to be fair i've been on irc since the early 90s
<zendeavor> that's the strangest game
<shevy> one ought to find the most efficient way to idle
<shevy> Eiam, cool. mIRC days?
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<Eiam> shevy: pIRCh
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<zendeavor> he was too leet for mirc even then
<Eiam> on undernet
<Eiam> yep
<shevy> I came to freenode only after programming, before that only random chattering with people on galaxynet (and browser games)
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<heftig> in the time where "browser game" always meant "flash game"
<shevy> there was even a time with perl .cgi scripts before that
<heftig> or weird stuff that didn't even use javascript
<shevy> yeah that too
<heftig> where you had to wait hours for stuff to happen
<shevy> I dont quite understand why there are not more ruby .cgi or rails based webgames
<RubyPanther> I haven't closed xchat since last time I upgraded my linux kernel
<heftig> RubyPanther: two weeks, then
<shevy> hehe
<RubyPanther> heftig: 13:35:47 up 188 days, 21:43, 22 users, load average: 1.13, 1.17, 1.22
<heftig> ● [RubyPanther] idle 00:00:44, signon: Thu Jul 25 21:37:40
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<RubyPanther> indeed, freenode is like a pogo stick the way it bounces
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<RubyPanther> Thankfully xchat just reconnects and doesn't bother me with it
<awpti> What are some highly recommended books on ruby? (not rails, couldn't care less about rails :) )
<havenwood> awpti: The Ruby Programming Language
<zendeavor> the docs
<havenwood> awpti: For newbies I hear Learn to Program recommended.
<RubyPanther> awpti: _why's (poignant) guide, and the pickaxe
<popl> zendeavor: The documentation is not a book. :)
<havenwood> awpti: The pickaxe covers a log of the stdlib.
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<awpti> Nice.
<heftig> RubyPanther: our webserver's xen dom0 hasn't been rebooted in almost 3 years
<awpti> Appreciate the list.
<havenwood> s/log/lot
<RubyPanther> pickaxe is like 3 books, it has a sortof tut at the start, and then a more serious language section, and then a reference
<awpti> Also, I'm not a newbie to programming. Just to ruby :)
<johnjay1> is it possible to declare class members with expressions? ie, class foo { $bar = $::parent_var.to_s()[0..2] } ?
<zendeavor> popl: it is if you print it and bind it ;D
<AntelopeSalad> i only read Eloquent Ruby and found it to be a great read
<havenwood> Avdi is great, but haven't read Eloquent Ruby.
<shevy> awpti the pickaxe is ok, the reference at the end will have information that you can use for years, the beginning is very easy, but once you read it you will not have to read this again (I noticed that when I bought the new pickaxe, I knew 99% of the things from the beginning already, so that was a waste of money, but I did not regret having bought it the first time)
<popl> zendeavor: In my estimation there are very few people who would take the time to do that.
<AntelopeSalad> someone recommended it to me about a month ago
<RubyPanther> heftig: yeah, I only update my servers every few years when I start getting version mismatches :) "It's not out of date, it is actually just very stable."
<joshu> hi what is the operator "…" called in Ruby? For instance ("06:00"..."21:00").include?(date.strftime("%H:%M"))?
<shevy> joshu, Range ... inclusive range
<havenwood> joshu: Range, inclusive
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<shevy> with two . it is exclusive range
<joshu> shevy havenwood thanks ;)
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<shevy> (1...5).to_a # => [1, 2, 3, 4]
<shevy> (1..5).to_a # => [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
<heftig> johnjay1: be a bit more specific about what you want to do? also, what's a "class member" to you?
<shevy> :D
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<RubyPanther> I'm still using my old pickaxe v. 2 because of the section on C extensions, it is the only tech book I keep on my desk
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<shevy> sadly, the ruby docs could still need improves...
<joshu> cool that was what I was wondering, e.g. the difference between two and three dots. Thanks shevy
<johnjay1> heftig: I'm looking at it as a variable thats inherited later on by classes extending this one
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<shevy> I liked the python online docs, ruby should have something closer to that than it has right now
<heftig> johnjay1: just use accessors
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<johnjay1> heftig: for something like $var = $::foo.to_s
<johnjay1> i get
<johnjay1> Syntax error at '.'; expected '}'
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<shevy> I think it wants to try and scope to something
<shevy> $ probably expects something afterwards
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<johnjay1> other refs to $::var work fine, like in a case $::bar { ... }
<havenwood> i guess better to say ... is exclusive, since it doesn't include the final element
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<heftig> >> class A; class << self; attr_reader :foo; end; @foo = 30; end; class B < A; class << self; def foo; superclass.foo * 3; end; end; end; B.foo
<eval-in> heftig => 90 (https://eval.in/41771)
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<heftig> johnjay1: $:: is not valid syntax
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<heftig> also, $foo are global variables
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<johnjay1> heftig: why do other refs with $:: work?
<shevy> johnjay1, how does it work fine? for me, $::bar {} throws an error
<heftig> they don't
<shevy> hehe
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<shevy> I think that is a specific configuration language to puppet
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<heftig> johnjay1: that's not ruby
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<johnjay1> commence teeth grinding
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<shevy> hehe
<shevy> I never saw that before though
<shevy> case $::operatingsystem {
<johnjay1> stretch here...any idea how I can extend that?
<shevy> that looks really weird
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<johnjay1> to just give me the first three chars of $::osfamily
<shevy> no idea but it seems like a classic case menu
<johnjay1> i'd like to assign the first 3 chars of $::osfamily to a class var
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<havenwood> johnjay1: So you're trying to find the OS type outside of Puppet? You want an alternative to $::osfamily or you want to include that stuff?
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<havenwood> Confuzled.
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<johnjay1> havenwood: I'd like to have my own class var that takes the first 3 chars from puppet's $::osfamily
<havenwood> johnjay1: For just getting the OS fam, doesn't get much simpler than this gem: https://github.com/havenwood/os-name#readme
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<johnjay1> haha
<johnjay1> this is great but I need it for other vars too
<havenwood> johnjay1: Could modify the code to return 3 letters, ditch Solaris: https://github.com/havenwood/os-name/blob/master/lib/os-name.rb
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<havenwood> johnjay1: So you actually want to have Puppets non-Ruby stuff available and extend upon that?
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<johnjay1> yeah
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<havenwood> I dunno enough about Puppet. I'd presume you can require it and get access to that stuff, but no clue.
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<Nilium> Booyah, just got $150 for a writing award I won months ago
<Nilium> I CAN DRINK COFFEE AGAIN.
<shevy> lol
<Nilium> Bat guano coffee ain't cheap.
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<zorg24> I'm trying to set up ruby 1.9.3, and rails 3.1.0 on linux mint but keep getting this error anyone know how to solve it?
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<onewheelskyward> And by this error you mean...
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<onewheelskyward> btw, rails 3.1 is way, way out of date.
<havenwood> zorg24: What error? Why 3.1?
<Nilium> Gettin' an error here man you wanna read my mind and tell me what it is
<havenwood> 3.2 should be a painless upgrade so get off 3.1! Rails channel is #rubyonrails.
<zorg24> It seems your ruby installation is missing psych (for YAML output).
<zorg24> havenwood its for the edx SaaS class and they said to use 3.1 so I'm using it...
<shevy> zorg24 you must install libyaml
<havenwood> Have you bundled?
<wald0> which toolkits (user interfaces) i can use with ruby in linux ? (for do user applications), im searching something nice, not old and ugly interfaces (not tk, gtk1, etc)
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<shevy> wald0, ruby-gnome http://ruby-gnome2.sourceforge.jp/
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<wald0> shevy: i think that is old (gtk1 ?), looks very ugly :/
<havenwood> gtk2/3
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<havenwood> Could go the JVM route with SWT as an alternative.
<havenwood> Shoes resurgence?!
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<havenwood> I love the idea of a gemified Shoes being reborn.
<zendeavor> coming soon
<havenwood> *SOON*
<zendeavor> i mean
<zendeavor> is shoes really that great anyway
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<zendeavor> or is it mostly about the historical significance
<havenwood> Historical at this point, unless Shoes 4 takes off.
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<shevy> wald0 that is gtk2 and gtk3
<shevy> wald0 it looks like all other gtk2 or gtk3 projects, depending on the theme engine in use
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<shevy> wald0 download it, install it, run the examples
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<havenwood> zendeavor: Part of _why's legacy. Klabnik took it over when _why disappeared. It just lost relevance since it doesn't support latest and greatest guis with modern Ruby. I'm *hoping* the summer of code project successfully revitalizes on SWT and is able to extend to gtk3 or whatev off the JVM>
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<zendeavor> i know it's part of that legacy
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<havenwood> This book is made of rabbits and lemonade... and a French maid I've dipped in marmalade!
<lewellyn> speaking of ruby guis... would anyone here have an interest in being able to write gui mobile apps in ruby?
* lewellyn doesn't have details just yet, but needs to gauge interest to prioritize the task :)
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<havenwood> lewellyn: Like RubyMotion, Ruboto, MobiRuby?
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<lewellyn> havenwood: not quite :)
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<havenwood> lewellyn: Then what?
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<lewellyn> not ios/android, for starters. ideally fully cross-platform.
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<havenwood> Too few people know about the soundtrack to _why's poignant guide!
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<havenwood> lewellyn: Fully cross platform as in not a native app?
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<aramus_> Hello, if I have a string like "attrb001" or "attr122232", how would I extract the numbers at the end?
<lewellyn> native, but i'm not at a point where i can give concrete details yet.
<lewellyn> for one, i don't want to overpromise ;)
<havenwood> mmm
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<lewellyn> my foundation is set, but further work is pretty much predicated upon whether there's anything resembling immediate interest.
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<lewellyn> otherwise, it'll remain a background task until i have a paying client wanting it or i need it myself.
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<havenwood> lewellyn: Love the idea. I'd like to explore it if you release. :D
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<lewellyn> havenwood: ok. that moved it up a notch. ;)
<lewellyn> it's now squarely above the same for php.
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<lewellyn> and tbh, i'd rather have ruby folks bugging me with issues than php folks anyhow. i expect the ruby folks won't be all "why can't i get my cms to work with this? isn't it a web browser?" :/
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<blip99> hi all, I have a very strange issue I've been trying to debug. It turns out that upon accessing a certain object for the first time (even with a simple puts to print it), the object becomes nil after that
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<blip99> the object is the return of ActiveRecord::Base.connection.execute
<Nilium> blip99: We'd need to see the code.
<Nilium> Ah, nevermind, it's a rails thing.
<Nilium> You should probably ask rails people.
<blip99> Is it a Rails bug ?
<blip99> ok
<havenwood> #RubyOnRails
<Nilium> Dunno, this just isn't really the place for rails stuff.
<blip99> np
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<Nilium> Try the channel havenwood and g'luck.
<blip99> Im also asking there but I guess you guys would know the depth of ruby better
<havenwood> Nilium: :O
<Nilium> mentioned
<Nilium> I accidentally a verb
<Nilium> Made it sound sexy though.
<blip99> unless ruby is different from every language on earth, this should happen
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<zendeavor> Nilium: havin' wood ain't sexy
<blip99> once again the broken tracks of Rails cause me suffering
<Nilium> Well, we'd still need to see the code, anywho.
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<Nilium> So, gist or .. one of those other pastebins that isn't pastebin.com
<havenwood> Gist eet!
<Nilium> Something about pastebin.com makes code really horribly unreadable
<havenwood> zendeavor: it is sooo
<havenwood> Haven is Anglo Saxon for port.
<onewheelskyward> Aww. Symbols can't include hyphens.
<Nilium> Yes they can.
<Nilium> :"foo-bar"
<havenwood> >> :"they-so-can"
<eval-in> havenwood => :"they-so-can" (https://eval.in/41779)
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<Nilium> >> :"foo-#{'your mom'}-bar\n"
<eval-in> Nilium => :"foo-your mom-bar\n" (https://eval.in/41780)
<Nilium> They can have a lot of things.
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<patrikf> >> "is this considered oldschool now?".to_sym
<eval-in> patrikf => :"is this considered oldschool now?" (https://eval.in/41781)
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<wald0> shevy: mmh, strange, I use it packaged in my debian wheezy and it looks like gtk1 (at least the website examples)
<onewheelskyward> Well, I can't :symbol-this
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<onewheelskyward> directly. Anything else is more of a pita than I'd like.
<zendeavor> how about an underbar.
<onewheelskyward> Too late. I already named my github repo with the hyphen, and I'm not going to mix them. :)
<davidcelis> onewheelskyward: why? it's still a symbol
<onewheelskyward> I was writing cap deplloy tasks.
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<zendeavor> too late?
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<zendeavor> hyphens, blegh.
<onewheelskyward> davidcelis Because then I'd have to write :"more characters every time I use the symbol, which is quite a lot"
<davidcelis> assign it to a variable?
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<davidcelis> what's the repo's name
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<Nilium> onewheelskyward: Jam it in a constant.
<Nilium> Woops, scrolled up. May no longer be relevant.
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<davidcelis> also why does it have to be a symbol
<onewheelskyward> Interesting ideas, but the whole point was to have the hyphen be consistent from repo to code. I can't have hyphens in the variable names, either.
<havenwood> may just be premature optimization to symbolize
<onewheelskyward> I just dropped the hyphen, it's not a big deal. Just a wish. :) It's a symbol because that's how capistrano handles namespacing.
<onewheelskyward> I'm just following convention.
<zendeavor> undo the repo name
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<zendeavor> . is valid in repo names
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<zendeavor> i chose to use "dot" instead
<Elico> hey I would like to know if the net-ping issues are resolved on 2.0 ..
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<Elico> it states that on 1.9.x there is a chance of false positives..
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<wald0> what are the alternatives to Subexec ? seems like it doesn't work correctly here
<elysium> Anyone know the recommended course of action for upgrading a source-installed version of ruby on centos? do different versions of ruby place nice on top of each other? i'm aware of solutions such as RVM and all that, i'm just curious about how to go about fixing my base system install to be a fresher version
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<dankest> I'm testing a Class that only has a reader for a value. Is there a way for me to make this field a writer just in testing?
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<dankest> i.e. I don't want this value to have a writer inproduction, but in testing I need to be able to change it's value
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<wald0> im trying to move from bash to ruby, what can be an equivalent for (for example): cat file.txt | grep "user: " | sed 's|user: ||g' ?
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<Nilium> I'm not up on my said, but I take it that's just replacing all instances of "user: " with nothing?
<Nilium> open('file.txt') { |io| io.each_line { |line| puts line.gsub('user: ', '') if line.include? 'user: ' } } might do it.
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<ch_> Nilium: thanks i'll give it a shot in a few
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<davidcelis> elysium: it's generally recommended you _not_ mess with the system install
<davidcelis> if you want a fresher version, that's what you should be using RVM or rbenv or some other ruby version manager for
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<elysium> this is not the system install, this is the source install i did a bit ago
<elysium> i got myself sorted out
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<elysium> centos's system install of ruby is nonexistent
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<ziggles> When creating custom "collection classes" is it pretty common in the ruby world to name the class with "collection" in the name? ie CarCollection or UserCollection etc
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<patrikf> ziggles: why would you create custom collection classes in the first place?
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<ziggles> patrikf: because i want to do extra stuff Array doesn't provide
<patrikf> can you sketch an example?
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<patrikf> if you want something that makes sense to have for lists of all sorts of objects, you can always extend Array :) but I guess that doesn't suit you for some reason
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<ziggles> patrikf: That's exactly what i want to do... is extend array and add on to it. I'm just not sure how to name it. Say i have a bunch of Item objects and i want to do something like ItemsCollection... is that a ruby-friendly name or will someone look at my code and shun me?
<ziggles> lol
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<ziggles> patrikf: my last experience was working with Java and we had tons of factories, collections etc.
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<patrikf> ziggles: you can /literally/ extend array
<ziggles> patrikf: i get that. `class ItemsCollection < Array`
<patrikf> >> class Array; def fancy_schmancy; "hooray!"; end; end; [1,2,3].fancy_schmancy
<eval-in> patrikf => "hooray!" (https://eval.in/41785)
<patrikf> no, you can re-open the class definition.
<lethjakman> patrikf: wait, what? you can extend array without making a new object?
<lethjakman> well not object...class.
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<patrikf> I just did.
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<ziggles> patrikf: that's just a monkey patch, right?
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<patrikf> ziggles: yes, that's the proper term, thanks.
<patrikf> ziggles: but you want something different?
<ziggles> patrikf: yeah... All im asking is about naming conventions. Is using the word "Collection" considered bad?
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<patrikf> I'm just asking so many questions because I never did something like that in ruby, it seems like a very weird pattern, and if you gave me more context I might come up with a better approach.
<ziggles> patrikf: nah it's probably me just being terrible at explaining myself. check this out: http://stackoverflow.com/a/1400341/648695
<ziggles> patrikf: that guy created a collection class he named "ItemsCollection"
<ziggles> patrikf: to a seasoned rubyist... would calling something like that a "collection" be looked down on? basically i'm just trying to get my naming conventions right
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<patrikf> well, I wouldn't know about that. to me, the /intention/ of sublassing array sound somewhat awkward, which is why I'm curious to what you're using it for.
<ziggles> checking
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<dorei> let's say I have x.map(&:y), there's no way to use something like that if y is expecting arguments, right?
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<heftig> right
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<dorei> :(
<dorei> i was hoping for some magic
<heftig> >> module Enumerable; def map_with_args(*args, &blk); map { |x| blk.call(x, *args) }; end; end; [1,2,3,4].map_with_args(3,&:+)
<eval-in> heftig => [4, 5, 6, 7] (https://eval.in/41797)
<heftig> dorei: at least not without introducing another method
<blackmesa> HI all
<heftig> or another way:
<heftig> >> class Enumerator; def with_args(*args, &blk); each { |*x| blk.call(*x, *args) }; end; end; [1,2,3,4].map.with_args(3,&:+)
<eval-in> heftig => [4, 5, 6, 7] (https://eval.in/41798)
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<blackmesa> can somebody tell me what [] means in "def [](key) .... end"
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<dorei> blackmesa: if you want your class to respond to [], you do it that way
<dorei> like Hashes and Arrays respond to []
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<blackmesa> dorei: is there no method name?
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<sam113101> [] is the method name
<dorei> blackmesa: [] is the method name i think
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<blackmesa> thx. but how is it called? looks strange to me sorry
<heftig> using []
<heftig> foo[3]
<Nilium> blackmesa: def [](args) ; end
<heftig> calls [](3) on object foo
<Nilium> It's a method.
<Nilium> Same with []=(arg, assigned_value) for foo[arg] = assigned_value
<dorei> foo[3] is like doing foo.[](3)
<blackmesa> thank u all. now its clearer
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<blackmesa> there is really a big difference getting an answer in #C http://www.anony.ws/i/2013/08/08/DHWMe.png and getting an answer in #ruby http://www.anony.ws/i/2013/08/09/aSFCG.png
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<dorei> lol @ blackmesa
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