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<jazzonmym111nd> Mon_Ouie: !!!
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<plungo_socio> Which countries in Europe use most Ruby on Rails ?
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<FI_OPwk> hi
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<A5101> hello FI_OPwk
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<baweaver> Bit of a black curiosity that would do bad things to Ruby, but I wonder if we can implement the ES6 object/hash shorthand: http://ccoenraets.github.io/es6-tutorial/destructuring/
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<baweaver> Such that: {a: a, b: b} can be expressed in shorthand as: {a, b}
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<baweaver> naturally not with the exact syntax, but trying to tweak with introspection to get the names of the variables passed into a function
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<baweaver> or for the adventurous, hack around the lexer to make it recognize that :D
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<baweaver> Not finding anything short of some nasty eval / binding tricks though
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<pontiki> i still haven't gotten used to that in ES6
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<baweaver> I just focused on ES5 honestly, never bothered much with ES6
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<baweaver> Now I'm somewhere north of that into ES6 and then on to Typescript because Angular 2
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<baweaver> Just happened to see that bit about destructuring and immediately wondered how to pull that one off in Ruby
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<baweaver> came fairly quickly to the solution that it was borderline impossible short of hacking ruby down to the C level.
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<pontiki> i'm in an all-day workshop on monday learning all the good stuff about ES6
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<baweaver> http://plnkr.co/edit/lOUXZ3ejVC9pSHIOlsfl?p=preview - That took far longer than it should have
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<pontiki> i've been using it for learning projects only
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<baweaver> trying to put a count in the middle of a donut chart.
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<baweaver> Now it's off to getting a universal color scheme to tie a hundred or so of them together :D
<baweaver> It'd been so long since I had to actually do anything significant in CSS that I forgot about the entire relative > absolute positioning trick.
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<baweaver> granted I need to make that work better for smaller screens, but it'll usually be on a dashboard.
<pontiki> the vertical centering thing?
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<baweaver> fixing the text into the middle of that chart to where it won't do wonky things at scale
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<Nilium> I think making CSS work the way I want it to is an NP-complete problem.
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<baweaver> Eh, I started back around IE 5 - 6 days
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<baweaver> CSS is a cute kitten now compared to then
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<baweaver> especially with vh(viewport height) and vw(viewport width)
<pontiki> indeed
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* baweaver shudders at thoughts of holly hack
<baweaver> anyways, back home I go.
<Nilium> It's a cute kitten but it's got the temperament of a siamese cat: it has opinions about why you exist and the rules the universe operates by, and nothing you think has any sway.
<pontiki> "any sufficiently long discussion on CSS turns into a screed / rant on vertical centering"
<baweaver> pontiki: got a source or a custom quote?
<Nilium> It _could_ be far worse.
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<pontiki> i said that the other day
<pontiki> (in a work channel)
<baweaver> congrats
<pontiki> haha, thanks
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<baweaver> you're quotable
<pontiki> not the first time
<baweaver> Now to head back home then :D
<baweaver> laundry and adult things need doing
<pontiki> ciao
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<ruby-lang229> hola
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<baweaver> Alo
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<someboy> Hi all.
<someboy> I am trying to do a `bundle install`
<someboy> I get this error when doing so ERROR: Error installing ffi: ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension.
<someboy> I tried to do `sudo gem install ffi -v '1.9.14'` as told by error message
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<sqarzz> I have an object X, another object would copy and have all of the first object's attributes + a new attribute. shoudl teh second object be a whole new model or is there some kind of inheritence possible here?
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<aidalgol> Is the convention in Ruby to use `ALL_CAPS` for constants, or just `Captialised`?
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<ropeney> aidalgol, all caps
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<zenspider> sqarzz: well... is it a different sort of thing or the same sort of thing?
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<Vacuum_> Hi
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<Vacuum_> I am following this http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/HowTo_Install_Redmine_on_Ubuntu_step_by_step to install redmine but when I try to hit this http://52.37.166.97/pm/ I see file directory structure. Can anyone help me out?
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<mustmodify> I'm having a brain problem. What's it called when you create strings with #{}
<mustmodify> uh... injection... no...
<mustmodify> uh...
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<chris2> interpolation
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<mustmodify> DING DING DING DING!
<mustmodify> 50 points for chris2.
<mustmodify> Thanks. That was driving me nutso.
<chris2> np
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<chris2> Vacuum_: looks like fcgi is not active?
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<Vacuum_> chris2: what is that and how to know?
<Vacuum_> chris2: the tutorial link I mentioned did not mentioned fcgi
<chris2> did you do the apache configuration thing?
<chris2> in particular the paths there?
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<chris2> why do you post /pm when it should be /redmine?
<Vacuum_> chris2: correct, I changed redmine to pm
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<Vacuum_> thats all. chris2 let me show you my config files
<chris2> $ sudo ln -s /usr/share/redmine/public /var/www/html/redmine
<chris2> this needs /pm then
<chris2> <Directory /var/www/html/redmine>
<chris2> and this
* Radar sees fgci
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<Radar> out*
<chris2> should use passenger according to that manual
<elomatreb> Is that symlink idea really a good one? Leaves a really bad impression
<chris2> why?
<elomatreb> No specific reason, following symlinks like that just feels really weird
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<chris2> sounds like a good way to hook up a packaged directory into an arbitrary webserver
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<elomatreb> As long as the symlink and its directory have proper permissions, you're probably right
<chris2> Vacuum_: did you enable mod_passenger?
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<Vacuum_> chris2: apache2ctl -M says passenger_module (shared)
<Vacuum_> chris2: do I need fcgi?
<chris2> no
<Vacuum_> ok
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<Vacuum_> what seems to be wrong? is the configs ok?
<chris2> try DocumentRoot /var/www/html ?
<Vacuum_> I have other domains in /html
<chris2> i think the paths dont fit then
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<chris2> but i didnt run apache in this decade, so :P
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<Vacuum_> chris2: I just tried what you said. same resules
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<Vacuum_> chris2: something tells me it has something to do with ruby or configs?
<chris2> are you sure the apache config is used?
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<chris2> the one you pasted with the /pm document root doesnt serve the folder for /
<Vacuum_> chris2: its in sites-enabled dir
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<Vacuum_> the dir is in /var/www/html/pm
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<chris2> so a request to / should serve it
<chris2> but it serves ubuntu default index.html
<Vacuum_> allow forbidon will not allow it
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<chris2> check that are no other sites serving on :80
<chris2> *:80 that is
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<Vacuum_> hm. there is.
<Vacuum_> let me change the port
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<Vacuum_> chris2: I just did <VirtualHost *:8080>
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<chris2> ok
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<Vacuum_> brb in 5mins. Its loading page but not getting a single response. Just keeps on loading it
<Vacuum_> chris2: what could be wrong?
<chris2> firewall?
<Vacuum_> hm
<Vacuum_> let me check
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<Vacuum_> chris2: firefwall is allowed for 8085
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<chris2> * Failed to connect to 52.37.166.97 port 8085: Connection refused
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<Vacuum_> I guess I have to run apache on 8085 ?
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<Vacuum_> I have another site in same apache running on port 80
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<Vacuum_> chris2: no luck.
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<Guest95093> hey guys
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<Guest95093> this is my first channel experience and i'm new to ruby - any books you'd recommend?
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<pontiki> Guest95093: do you have any already?
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<pontiki> Guest95093: i have a page of learning things: http://swaac.tamouse.org/pages/learning/
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<Vacuum_> I am following this http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/HowTo_Install_Redmine_on_Ubuntu_step_by_step to install redmine but when I try to hit this http://52.37.166.97/pm/ I see file directory structure. Here are configs https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8905586 Can anyone help me out?
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<catgrandmaster> hi - anyone know a decent resource online with Ruby quizes/solutions/walkthroughs? For example, you get given a set of user stories and you have to develop an app using TDD?
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<pontiki> catgrandmaster: not specificly like that, but you could should look at http://exercism.io/languages/ruby
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<catgrandmaster> pontiki: : I think that site focuses on the lanaguage basics and I'm more interested in how to program using TDD aspect...(lets assume I know Ruby well)
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<pontiki> ah, i see
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<pontiki> then the only thing i know of is real life :(
<catgrandmaster> I'm happy to pay if there is a website that specializes in that sort of thing
<catgrandmaster> hmmm
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<Vacuum_> I am following this http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/HowTo_Install_Redmine_on_Ubuntu_step_by_step to install redmine but when I try to hit this http://52.37.166.97/pm/ I see file directory structure. Here are configs https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8905586 Can anyone help me out?
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<pontiki> Vacuum_: Support & getting help
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<pontiki> For getting help or discussing about Redmine, you can browse the Redmine forums hosted right here in Redmine. We also have a fairly active chatroom - join #redmine on the freenode IRC network. Some more information about IRC is here
<Vacuum_> No one answers on #redmine
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<pontiki> and no one answers here either
<Vacuum_> You just did
<pontiki> all right, i will stop trying to help you
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<Dev51328> Is #ruby dieing out?
<Dev51328> I mean if this is the official channel and one compares it to ##php or #python
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<baweaver> Dev51328 depends who you ask
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<baweaver> There's always going to be someone who declares something dead while the rest of us laugh at them and continue to build our production systems in it.
<baweaver> that applies to Ruby, PHP, and even older languages like RPG or COBOL.
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<baweaver> calling a language dead is a fundamental misunderstanding
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<whitequark> I could build a production system in a language I myself designed but never bothered publishing, does that mean it is "not dead" in any meaningful sense?
<Dev51328> Well, I googled language popularity. That might be a better metric
<whitequark> there is rarely a situation where nothing at the whole planet runs particular software anymore, but once your attrition rate exceeds accumulation rate for new programmers, "dead" starts to look applicable
<Dev51328> However an even better metric might be is how much new (not maintenance work) is going on in the language
<whitequark> by that metric C is dead
<whitequark> as nice as that would be, I cannot agree :)
<Dev51328> C is/was used for embedded work
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<Dev51328> Whether it still holds that niche so much now im not sure
<whitequark> every major OS is still powered by C
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<whitequark> C the language barely gets anything new though. (C11 brought a nicer memory model and atomics, but that is really not a lot)
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<Dev51328> Ruby had a nice syntax but it was always a bit too magical and encouraged a culture of "monkey patching". It did get a lot of buzz when it was new but if freenode engagement is any kind of metric at all ruby usage seems to have fallen quite dramtically
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<Dev51328> Maybe there are just too many exciting new languages now that ruby is looking a bit "old"
<toretore> who cares
<Dev51328> Not you obviously
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<Dev51328> Anyway thats not really the point
<chris2> most projects go longer than 1-2 years, so whatever is hip when you start it is not hip later...
<whitequark> this reminds me, ruby started being hip maybe early 2006, but when did that stop?
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<whitequark> i'm pretty sure it was still sort of hip in 2012
<chris2> around rails 4 perhaps?
<whitequark> that's even later, yeah
<chris2> when node.js picked up
<Dev51328> Did rails get too big and grow too fast perhaps?
<chris2> rails 4 was 2013
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<Dev51328> I remember trying to write a web app with rails about when it first became hip
<Dev51328> I remember they were more committed to selling books than writing online documentation
<Dev51328> I even bought one
<Dev51328> One or two
<whitequark> dunno, I found api.ror.org pretty comprehensive
<toretore> i didn't have any problems finding documentation online
<Dev51328> I eventually ran into issues when it didn't work so well on windows and had to rewrite the whole web app on django
<whitequark> it's around rails 3 when the call stacks became too deep to understand it without reading sources
<Dev51328> And on django I had no problems at all
* chris2 never understood anything without reading sources
<toretore> serves you right for using windows /s
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<whitequark> well, not understand rails, understand how to use rails.
<toretore> or is it \s
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<whitequark> there was a point where i could use helpers without peeking into how they're implemented but that stopped being the case, sadly
<Dev51328> Well, it was a managers decision to make it cross platform
<Dev51328> Saying serves you right for using windows tends to ignore market realities
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<chris2> obv windows is a big player in web apps :P
<toretore> heavy use of metaprogramming doesn't lend itself to easy documentation
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<chris2> toretore: and weird ungreppable conventions -.-
<Dev51328> Heavy use of metaprogramming and especially monkey patching doesn't lead to easy reading of code
<toretore> that too
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<chris2> ruby programmers realize that after about 5 years ;)
<toretore> after 10, you realize you shoud probably be writing java and after 15 that nothing really matters
<zacts> ruby is cool
<zacts> oh wait, I'm on #ruby not #perl
<zacts> sorry, indeed it still is true that ruby is cool, but you all know that already
<chris2> toretore: with 15 years i agree :P
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<toretore> it was pretty cool when you came from php and perl tbh
<Dev51328> Well "cool" is really whatever you feel most comfortable issue. Its not really a scientific measure
<Dev51328> s/issue/with
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<zacts> Dev51328: I have ruby red sunglasses, that's my definition of cool. And I have a Ruby sticker on my laptop
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<Dev51328> zacts: yes, their marketing was good
<zacts> yeah
<zacts> but indeed I think there are other lingos more suitable for certain application domains than others
<baweaver> you know you could summarize this entire conversation fairly easily
<zacts> I feel like Ruby is like a tinker toy lego like language
<baweaver> new guy: Ruby is dead
<baweaver> #ruby: lol, no
<zacts> but it's still powerful too
<zacts> baweaver: don't forget the key term 'ruby red sunglasses'
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<zacts> that is so important for any discussion of this template
<baweaver> It's not very scientific though
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<Dev51328> Well, I was thinking the other day that ruby might make a good replacement for bash scripts
<Dev51328> But Perl would probably be better
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<zacts> Dev51328: I am using Ruby for simple command line apps right now
<baweaver> Is it turing complete? Then it can do the same job.
<zacts> I'm mainly using the `gli` gem
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<zacts> baweaver: do you really want to use 10101001010000111101010010 to program everything?
<baweaver> Already am out of technicality.
<Dev51328> So is brainf**k turing complete
<baweaver> The point is that you should choose the language that works for you
<zacts> Dev51328: but yeah perl is great for quick and dirty UNIX style scripting
<zacts> and you can pull in CPAN modules
<baweaver> and not be exceedingly pedantic / "it's dead!" to other languages
<zacts> baweaver: I totally agree
<zacts> Ruby is good at what Ruby is good for (which is apparently a lot), and other languages are good at what they are good at
<baweaver> if you want to do that, go to Hacker News. They love that type of group think.
<zacts> I mean Ruby on Rails runs some pretty hefty websites for example
<zacts> ---
<zacts> ^ new topic? :-D
<baweaver> \n
<Dev51328> Well, what else is ruby used in apart from websites?
<toretore> it's probably also responsible for quite a few tonnes of unnecessary carbon emissions
<baweaver> I'll leave that up to your googling.
<chris2> from DHH's car? :D
<toretore> well.. from being inefficient, but that too i guess
<zacts> Dev51328: what are your programming goals, and why are you at #ruby? Something must have sparked your curiosity
<Dev51328> zacts: doing a language survey
<zacts> ah ok
<chris2> "which channel can be trolled most easily"
<zacts> lol @ chris2
<zacts> anyway, 99 bottles book is almost out soon
<Dev51328> Its hard to use Google for this because most websites have an agenda, trying to sell you something
<zacts> by Sandi Metz. I'm thinking of getting it
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<Dev51328> Well "trolling" is another unscientific term
<Dev51328> It basically means "you are bugging me, go away"
<chris2> that's exactly what a troll would say
<zacts> ugh... Dev51328 please we don't want a troll. It's boring dude.
<zacts> we've answered all of your questions, so now this is just pure trolling, unless you ask a real question on how to design a ruby app or something
<Dev51328> You dont know all my questions
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<Dev51328> But you can tell a lot about a room by how quickly they go on the defensive
<adam12> lol
<toretore> "a room" with 1k people vs 1 or 2 people
<baweaver> Enough
<toretore> it says nothing about "a room"
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<baweaver> By this point it's crossing into trolling.
<Dev51328> Actually I am not here to convince you of anything. I already know no one changes their mind
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<Dev51328> Trolling in this case is "not liking my favourite language"
<baweaver> enough. If you have questions ask them
<Dev51328> Anyway I think you have answered my questions
<Dev51328> The ones that mattered anyway
<baweaver> last warning.
<Dev51328> It will make a good write up about the different programming communities on freenode :)
<zacts> have any of you read the beta of 99 bottles yet?
<Dev51328> People get warned here for asking questions? Interesting
<baweaver> at this point it is trolling. If you'd like to ask questions, ask questions, but don't expect people not to get defensive.
<zacts> I'm considering purchasing access to the beta
<baweaver> I just don't appreciate you escalating this into a potential fight, and will put a stop to it if necessary.
<Dev51328> If anything I am probably turned off ruby now because the comminity factor is an important one
<Dev51328> Community
<Dev51328> Languages dont stand on their own
<elomatreb> <Insert SonThisIsBait.jpg>
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<Dev51328> Thank you for enlightening me. Have a nice day.
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<elomatreb> What a nice person
<baweaver> Not a fan of pretentious gits like that.
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<baweaver> anyways, #ruby-offtopic for the rest of that.
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<soulisson> Hi, sorry I'm a noob, when the interpreter encounters a function definition, it creates that function?
<chris2> yes
<zacts> I'm going to go ahead and purchase 99 bottles
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<zacts> for sure
<chris2> don't drink too much :P
<zacts> ok I won't! :-D
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<gheegh> hey all, anyone using the cequel gem? I'm trying to use it with my tests (rspec-preloader) and it's giving me a "duplicated argument name" error. There is an open ticket that states soemthing about the model being reloaded (which it is), and that's causing the problem.. Anyone gotten around this?
<soulisson> How do it handle the local variables, does it parse the function definition and reserve in the stack the required space
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<Mon_Ouie> Yes, YARV counts the amount of local variables to determine the size of local table (including parameters). You can get some insight into that by looking at the output of RubyVM::InstructionSequence.disasm
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<soulisson> Mon_Ouie, thank you
<soulisson> Mon_Ouie, the local table is local to the function, right?
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<Mon_Ouie> Each method and each block is going to have one
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<Mon_Ouie> If you have `def foo(array); array.each { |e| puts e }; end', then foo has a local table to store array and the block passed to the each method has its own.
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<soulisson> Mon_Ouie, thank you
<soulisson> Does the local table store the local variables names?
<Mon_Ouie> I believe it does, because they can sometimes be accessed dynamically using Binding#eval or #local_variable_get. For the purposes of execution though they're mapped to an integer (the offset in the table).
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<soulisson> Mon_Ouie, ok, thank you very much
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<helpme969> test
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<gheegh> helpme969 it works
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<sqarzz> i need to pass a variable through the 'new' action in my controller, any idea how this van be done?
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<adam12> sqarzz: pass it as a param
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<baweaver> Also you may want to ask Rails questions in #RubyOnRails
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<sqarzz> @adam12 could the fact that the param is passed from another model be an issue? While i can access content of the param i am passing in the original model, it keeps on being nil on the invoked controller path
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<adam12> sqarzz: Let's move this back to #RubyOnRails.
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<soulisson> In ruby, does the mutex mechanism relies on the one provided by the operating system?
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<whitequark> soulisson: no
<whitequark> however, ruby uses OS mutexes elsewhere
<whitequark> well, ruby MRI.
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<soulisson> whitequark, ok, thank you
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<cippaciong> Hello everyone. I'm facing a problem I can't solve. I'm trying to run grep in ruby using backticks but the output I get in ruby is different from the one I get in bash
<cippaciong> The command is 'grep -E "\s/\s" /etc/fstab'
<cippaciong> This will correctly get the root line from fstab in bash but returns nil in ruby
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<cippaciong> Do you have why?
<cippaciong> *know
<toretore> ?code cippaciong
<ruby[bot]> cippaciong: We can't help you without your code, please post it to https://gist.github.com
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<toretore> why are you running grep and not using ruby to do this?
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<soulisson> In programming, a lock is called that way because we picture it as a virtual lock?
<cippaciong> toretore: probably because I know bash better than ruby and I'm doing it wrong
<toretore> cippaciong: code
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<cippaciong> code is just: puts `grep -E "\s/\s" /etc/fstab`
<cippaciong> I'm trying from irb
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<soulisson> cippaciong, I tried it on my computer I get the same result
<cippaciong> :S
<toretore> soulisson: locks are often used to "lock" access to a resource from access by other threads/processes, which is probably how they got their name
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<cippaciong> I tried to put that line in a bash script and run the script in ruby with backticks and that works
<toretore> cippaciong: describe what you're actually doing: what is the pattern you're looking for and why?
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<cippaciong> toretore: I'm looking for the UUID of the root partition. The reason is to create a secret for session cookies in rack
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<toretore> why are you using the root uuid?
<cippaciong> The idea came from the 4th approach described in this article http://old.blog.phusion.nl/2013/01/04/securing-the-rails-session-secret/
<soulisson> I wrote a script for a lab to bruteforce passwords in a lab, http://pastebin.com/JGva6WyL
<ruby[bot]> soulisson: we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, it loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting. Please use https://gist.github.com
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<cippaciong> toretore: not any particular reason, it's the first thing that came to my mind that is both secret and unique
<cippaciong> secret for anyone who does not have access to the machine I mean
<toretore> cippaciong: does it have to be the same across restarts?
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<soulisson> I have an issue with it, it doesn't connect at all
<cippaciong> toretore: yes, otherwise existing session would break
<cippaciong> *sessions
<toretore> right
<NetSage> could you not just create a random hash or something; throw it in a file and go from there?
<toretore> what does the line in fstab you're looking for look like?
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<toretore> it would be easy enough to just write a uuid to a file on first load
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<toretore> or generate and write the entire key
<cippaciong> UUID=c0a12b24-ec56-42fc-9db8-db6317859d37 / btrfs rw,relatime,compress=lzo,ssd,space_cache,subvolid=257,subvol=/@,subvol=@0 0
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<cippaciong> toretore: yeah, I was just wondering why such different results though
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<toretore> cippaciong: it seems to work just fine for me in irb
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<cippaciong> toretore: the lines, showing tabs as \t looks like this
<cippaciong> "UUID=c0a12b24-ec56-42fc-9db8-db6317859d37\t/ \tbtrfs \trw,relatime,compress=lzo,ssd,space_cache,subvolid=257,subvol=/@,subvol=@\t0 0\n"
<cippaciong> and I can grep it in ruby with '\t/\s' but not with '\s/\s'
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<cippaciong> both works in bash
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<toretore> probably something with escaping
<toretore> \\s works
<toretore> backticks are parsed as "strings" afaik
<toretore> >> "\s"
<ruby[bot]> toretore: # => " " (https://eval.in/630453)
<toretore> >> "\\s"
<ruby[bot]> toretore: # => "\\s" (https://eval.in/630454)
<cippaciong> that's it
<toretore> anyway, you should probably use this instead
<cippaciong> I got it. Thanks!
<toretore> File.read('/etc/fstab')[/UUID=([^ ]+)\s+\/\s+/, 1]
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<cippaciong> Nice, yes, I'll definitely use this one, thanks agin!
<toretore> np
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<soulisson> my script gets killed any idea why?
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* Nilium pulls out the crystal ball
<Nilium> Well, ... it says here that you didn't eat any legumes for three years. That might by why.
<Nilium> *be
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<soulisson> Nilium, I pasted the script earlier, do you need, the link?
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<Nilium> Link and explanation of what your script does.
<Nilium> Everyone forgets that second one, and mind reading's pretty taxing.
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<Nilium> So, where's it die and what's it do?
<soulisson> Nilium, basically a script to bruteforce a login page, I'm running the script again a virtual lab on hack.me
<Nilium> So where's it die?
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<soulisson> Nilium, I don't know, it just display killed
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<Nilium> Are you going to figure out where it dies?
<Nilium> Or do you just want us to figure out where it dies for you by guessing about whatever hack.me does?
<soulisson> Nilium, I don't know how
<Nilium> Tried logging?
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<toretore> so.. are you running that exact script?
<soulisson> Nilium, the script runs but at one point it dies
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<Nilium> So find out where it dies.
<toretore> soulisson: you have to provide more information than that
<soulisson> toretore, no, I replaced the hostname with the name of the sandbox provided by hack.me
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<toretore> can i run it if you give me the hostname?
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<soulisson> toretore, I can't my sandbox is destroyed
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<Mon_Ouie> Could you be running out of memory? Operating systems can kill a process that uses too much memory if they need to allocate more
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<soulisson> Mon_Ouie, it could be, I guess the bruteforce method is causing it?
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<Mon_Ouie> Maybe, I haven't read the code that thoroughly. You might also be keeping references to objects that you no longer need, preventing the GC from releasing the memory that they use.
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<Mon_Ouie> /
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<Mon_Ouie> woops
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<soulisson> Mon_Ouie, I write shitty code anyway
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<soulisson_> Mon_Ouie, indeed, I checked with htop my memory keeps increasing during program execution, any advice how to solve this issue
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<Mon_Ouie> soulisson_: Looking at it further, it's because you're doing a breadth first traversal of all strings, so you need to store an exponential amount of memory with respect to the size of the passwords you generate. I would define that function recursively
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<soulisson_> Mon_Ouie, can you explain me why writing it in a recursive manner would solve the problem
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<Mon_Ouie> If you have something like: def bruteforce(…); if size == 0 then yield word else call bruteforce with a new prefix for each character in the alphabet; end --- you only need to keep upto size string in memory at any point (the successive prefixes leading to the current invocation of the method)
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<Mon_Ouie> Your current implementation stores all strings of size n over your alphabet (i.e. alphabet.size ** n strings)
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<soulisson_> Mon_Ouie, but don't I have to store the previous prefixes in the previous function?
<baweaver> Fun tip, you can actually replace most recursion in Ruby with Enumerable#reduce
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<soulisson> My ISP is the worst
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<domgetter> baweaver: But reduce in Ruby is implemented as a for loop! Blasphemy!
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<baweaver> so is Tail Call Optimization
<Mon_Ouie> The point of recursion here is to not use a tail call though
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<Mon_Ouie> (You can use an array as a stack instead of using the call stack, but that tends to be slower and more work to manage, so I'd only do it if I need more depth than the call stack can provide)
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<baweaver> 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789'.chars.permutation(size)
<Mon_Ouie> soulisson: What do you mean by the "previous prefixes" precisely? old_prefixes in your code?
<baweaver> though that's really danged slow.
<Mon_Ouie> Oh, I tend to forget about these
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<Mon_Ouie> Definitely want the block form of this though
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<soulisson> Mon_Ouie, yes, to be honest I'm having a little bit trouble to write the recursive version
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<mikecmpbll> what's the "[-]" convention in logging? seen that before with some devs
<Guest76704> hello
<baweaver> >> ('a'..'z').to_a.permutation(3).to_a
<ruby[bot]> baweaver: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: OpenURI::HTTPError:500 Internal Server Error
<mikecmpbll> heh
<baweaver> oh?
<baweaver> mikecmpbll: probably just decoration
<mikecmpbll> baweaver : odd that two devs should independently choose the same thing there, wondered if it came from something in particular
<baweaver> I tend to do little quips like that for indentation or for easily finding certain blocks later in Splunk
<mikecmpbll> some language.
<baweaver> If I had to guess, probably some type of Tomcat logging
<baweaver> normally safe to blame Tomcat / Apache for odd conventions :D
<mikecmpbll> :D
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<Mon_Ouie> Assume you have a function bruteforce(prefix, &block) which generates strings that start with prefix, followed by n characters, do you see how you can use that to generate all strings that start with prefix, followed by n+1 characters?
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<soulisson> Mon_Ouie, you're right it solved my issue
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<Mon_Ouie> baweaver: Oh, and actually you want repeated_permutation, not permutation
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<Mon_Ouie> Otherwise you skip strings like 'aaa' or 'aab'
<baweaver> ah, true. So even slower then
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<soulisson> is method(&block) the proper way to pass explicitly a block to a method
<soulisson> ?
<zenspider> what's "proper" ?
<soulisson> "a way" if you prefer, I have a recursive function
<zenspider> f(&b) vs f { ...} vs f do ... end -- the only constraint is that b responds to #to_proc
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<soulisson> zenspider, I have a recursive function and when I call it, I need to pass the initial block, here is my function: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d0cf856955b13ac2824f009eb226744d
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<zenspider> that's certainly one way to write it
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<zenspider> I could also see you making an internal recursive proc that doesn't have to pass around the block... but meh. it still looks painful
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<zenspider> there's probably a more cleanly functional way to do that... but... *shrug*
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<Mon_Ouie> Well there is Enumerable#repeated_permutation, instead of doing it yourself
<Mon_Ouie> I mean Array#repeated_permutation
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<zenspider> yup. that was my first thought
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