<apeiros>
I see. I thought it was just bad wording.
<apeiros>
yes, there are libraries which help with forking and process stuff in multiple processes. no idea whether there's one which emulates this specific libraries API.
<matthewd>
It sounds like threads + fork + drb, approximately
<apeiros>
drb is overkill IMO
<matthewd>
Yeah, not claiming that's how I'd solve such a problem in general.. just looking at this API
<apeiros>
trying to remember the name of one gem which provides forked Enumerable methods…
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<gheegh>
Hey all.. what should be a simple question.. but I'm having a hard time. I am loading a LARGE string, then parsing it in JSON, in Rspec for a test (2gb+) trying to fix something. The thing keeps printing the string in the rspec session, which as the buffer fills, it goes slower and slower and slower, until it almost stops. Any thoughts on how to get this thing not to print?
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<spsoni>
Whats the best way to provision Sinatra in production environment?
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<spsoni>
I am new to Ruby/Sinatra
<spsoni>
Thinking of setting up Sinatra app in Ubuntu AWS instance
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<gheegh>
spsoni: why not just use Heroku?
<spsoni>
I am working on some small task/assignment to write up provisioning script. So need to go full hands on
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<spsoni>
heroku would be one of the solution
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<gheegh>
that's what i'd do.. for something that runs occassionally
<gheegh>
super easy, and no headaches..
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<spsoni>
I agree. But I need setup things all by myself. Heroku would be less impressive effort from my side. its more about learning the manual setup process
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<gheegh>
ahhh.. ok.. then AWS Ec2 is pretty straightforward.. you could also do a droplet on digitialocean.
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<spsoni>
gheegh: what steps should I follow for EC2 or digitalocean?
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<spsoni>
something which is scriptable
<gheegh>
spsoni: well, on AWS.. you would most likely write a shelf script (or use docker for ec2 conatiners) to build the image..
<gheegh>
shelf = chef
<gheegh>
pick an image that lets you script it.. and then folllow the instructions to launch it..
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<spsoni>
ok thanks, sounds good. let me search it
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<geek876>
Hi, I am new to Ruby. I would appreciate if you could let me know how do i check if a string is of format record['xxx'], the xxx could be anything
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<leitz>
geek876, "anything" is an interesting word. Are you including special characters like "+" and such? If it is truly "anything" then won't anything match?
<ruby[bot]>
foxxx0: # => /tmp/execpad-000b79cea8e5/source-000b79cea8e5:2: empty range in char class: /record['[a-zA-Z0-9._-+\ ...check link for more (https://eval.in/622251)
<foxxx0>
derp :/
<geek876>
tanks
<geek876>
thanks guys
<geek876>
yes regex match would do
<leitz>
If it is just a subset, then a the match is my_string.match(/[a-zA-Z0-9]*/) or similar.
<leitz>
That would get any upper and lower case characters as well as any numbers. I think; I'm still working on my regex as well. Hal Fulton's "The Ruby Way" talks about it in chapter 3.
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<leitz>
Catching up on writing tests and logging issues on GitHub when I find things that should be fixed. Sadly, it is my own code...
<geek876>
I am doing it like this if ( line1 =~ /record\[.*\]/ ) My line1 could contain simple strings like "hello" or something like "record[name]" i want to build up a case statement.
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<leitz>
geek876, are the words in [] pre-known?
<geek876>
leitz: No
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<geek876>
I expect they will be only characters but could be numbers, or special chars or mixture or num, alpha and special chars
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<leitz>
Ah, then you're going to hit some issues down the road. You have to make the match prioritized. That is, a str.match(/abc/) will match both "abc" and "abcdef".
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<leitz>
Use my_string.strip and regex anchors well.
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<geek876>
leitz: one more thing, would it match regex in when clause of a case statement ?
<geek876>
like line = 'x'
<geek876>
case line
<foxxx0>
case line; when %{my_regex} then; ...; end
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<foxxx0>
%r{}*
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<leitz>
geek876, per foxxx0 I think so. Ruby's case is pretty open to doing stuff, and you can do differnet types of things with each "when". Also, if you come from C, there is no fallthrough.
<geek876>
ok thanks
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<leitz>
Happy to help! Folks here have helped me a lot. :)
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<leitz>
My first reasonable use of the ternary operator.
<catphish>
i'm trying to have one thread fill an array, and another thread process all the data in it and empty it, atomically
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<Papierkorb>
catphish: That's not thread-safe.
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<catphish>
Papierkorb: why not?
<Papierkorb>
catphish: it might be thread-safe by accident in MRI, but the code is not
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<catphish>
oh, the array operations
<Papierkorb>
catphish: what happens when the Producer puts something into the array WHILE the Consumer gets something out?
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<catphish>
Papierkorb: it doesn't, that's the whole point of the code
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<Papierkorb>
mh?
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<Papierkorb>
Still: Not thread-safe.
<catphish>
i am assuming (correctly?) that MRI makes the array operations threadsafe
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<Papierkorb>
It does not. MRI just doesn't run ruby threads at the same time.
<Papierkorb>
Why would it guard array operations. Locking everything by default would be slow.
<catphish>
that is true actually, so for this to be threadsafe i'd need a lock around the array operations?
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<Papierkorb>
Yes
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<Papierkorb>
See the concurrent-ruby gem
<ytti>
i have hard time understanding why that wouldn't be thread safe, even with jvm
<catphish>
but there's no need for this in MRI? because it wont ever run 2 threads at the same time
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<catphish>
presumably if 2 threads at once, the array operations could corrupt each other
<catphish>
i dont know how ruby arrays work internally
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<Papierkorb>
catphish: it might work in MRI, but relying on the environment for that sounds like bad design
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<catphish>
actually, only one thread modifies the array!
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<catphish>
so the risk is one thread reading it while the other is modifying it?
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<catphish>
Papierkorb: do you know specifically which operation here is not safe?
<catphish>
(ignoring the fact that MRI makes it safe)
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<Papierkorb>
catphish: the array[0] read while the unshift modifies the same array could make the former read a "half updated" data structure
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<catphish>
Papierkorb: that's what i suspected, is it reasonable to assume that any implementation of ruby will have threadsafe array operations though?
<Papierkorb>
catphish: Also, there's the Queue class in the stdlib
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<Papierkorb>
catphish: No it's not.
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<catphish>
:(
<Papierkorb>
Always assume that such data structures are re-entrant, unless otherwise explicitly stated.
<ytti>
are or are not
<catphish>
thanks
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<ytti>
re-entrancy is positive quality for thread safeness
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<catphish>
"> Ruby Arrays aren't thread-safe, [...] MRI's threading implementation accidentally makes them thread-safe."
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<catphish>
fun
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<Papierkorb>
MRI only runs one thread processing ruby code at a time, all other threads are waiting for I/O or for their turn. JRuby does not have this limitation. So with JRuby, your code can suddenly break.
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<ignazioc>
Does someone uses the gem “commander” ? I’m looking for a way for defining a command suite, something like `mytool first_command second_command`. All the examples show only how to have one level of commands.
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<Bish>
Someone who knows "Opal", can you tell me, how js can interact with ruby classes compiled by opal
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<linduxed>
Bish: but i would assume that you could just inspect the compiled javascript, see what sort of objects you get to work with, and then interact with those
<linduxed>
there could also be something in the documentation, but this i wouldn't know much about
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<c_nick>
off topic here, but i am planning to invest in a new laptop - Ubuntu OS - 4gigs of RAM and 1 TB HDD, I am confused between an i5-4210 4400HD Graphics and an i3-5005 5500HD Graphics and i3-5005 AMD Radeon R5 Series M330 2 GB
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<Papierkorb>
c_nick: #ruby-offtopic
<c_nick>
tthanks Papierkorb
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<RedNifre>
What's your usecase for ruby? Do you use it for tiny scripts, small/large projects?
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<Papierkorb>
RedNifre: [x] all of the above
<RedNifre>
Do you use it for everything or is it just one language among many in your toolbox?
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<Nilium>
Are you asking someone in particular?
<RedNifre>
no, everyone :)
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<Nilium>
It's my alternative to bash scripts.
<RedNifre>
Personally, I only use it for tiny scripts.
<Nilium>
I would not use it for large projects. Possibly small CLI tool projects.
<RedNifre>
@Nilium exactly!
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<Nilium>
Which isn't to say other people wouldn't use it for large projects, I just personally don't think Ruby's suited for it.
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<Papierkorb>
RedNifre: Ruby for everything that's too complex for a bash script, and then as long Ruby isn't part of the problem I'm trying to solve
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<Nilium>
Pretty much that.
<Nilium>
The moment someone else's gem gets involved, I begin trying to ditch Ruby.
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<Papierkorb>
RedNifre: I wouldn't build a bank with Ruby for instance. But for many many problems I "solve" its benefits far outweight its disadvantages
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<Nilium>
Larger projects, projects that need to be easily distributed, or projects that just generally need better guarantees about code are either in Go, C, or C++.
<Nilium>
Well, not Java in my case, but that's an option a lot of people would benefit from.
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<Papierkorb>
RedNifre: I think it's reasonable to have a 'go to' language when facing a new project. Keeps the technology stack smaller across the organisation. Only if the language has hard to overcome issues, I'd replace it like any other tool in the toolbox by whatever fits better.
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<Dysp>
Hi there. Does anyone have some proper resources as to how to organize code? Making a "lib" folder and such probably seem as second nature for you guys, but not for someone who has ever built anything before. Is there any good guides out there as to how a "program" should work and be structured?
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<geek876>
Hi, I want to check if a hash contains a key so I am using my_hash.has_key?("my_key"). However, what if "my_key" is to be driven from a variable ? Sorry I am new to ruby
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<ljarvis>
geek876: what did you try?
<geek876>
my_hash.has_key?("#{my_key}")
<ljarvis>
is my_key a String?
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<geek876>
it is a capture from regex my_key = host.match(/record\['(.*)'\]/).captures
<geek876>
host is a string
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<geek876>
i have tried casting it my_key = host.match(/record\['(.*)'\]/).captures.to_s
<ljarvis>
right, then the interpolation is moot
<ljarvis>
you can just do my_hash.has_key?(my_key)
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<soulisson>
Hello to all ruby people!
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<jokke>
hey
<jokke>
has anyone here done something with cinch? I'm trying to write a simple logging bot and for starters wrote a cinch plugin that just logs all messages to stdout. i didn't specify any matching pattern. the messages aren't logged however
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<soulisson>
apeiros, yes, I read the wikipedia article, I was wondering if the idea behind this data structure and it's usage is the same as realf life queues, where people wait in line to be served or processed?
<soulisson>
I don't know what C2 is
<apeiros>
yes
<apeiros>
c2.com
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<apeiros>
mainly their wiki
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<soulisson>
ok, thanks, will take a look
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<soulisson>
sometimes my brain gets stuck in a storm of questions, and I'm asking my self those questions even when I know the answer
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<apeiros>
also as a pro-tip for future questions: mention what you've done yourself in order to answer your question. people like me have an allergic reaction to people who don't invest some of their own time first.
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<soulisson>
apeiros, ok, thanks for the advice
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<et09_>
i'm trying to do a bundle update and getting a "Could not find gem 'awesome_print (>= 0) ruby' in ...". i didn't specify it at all, trying to figure out what package did
<et09_>
er, what gem did.
<et09_>
i did bundle update --verbose, but it just goes "Resolving dependencies..." and then prints that
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<apeiros>
et09_: I usually read the Gemfile.lock. might be that bundler even has a command for that.
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<matthewd>
I think newer bundler versions have gotten better about describing that sort of situation
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<et09_>
i did that too, it specifies that that gem should be accessed via a github, and then lists it under "DPENDENCIES"
<matthewd>
(but yeah, I too just read the lock file)
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<et09_>
oh! it's in my gemfile.local. heh
<et09_>
(i have that)
<apeiros>
`bundle viz` :D
<apeiros>
gotta try that once
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