#ruby on 2017-01-06 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2016-12-25 02:19 havenwood changed the topic of #ruby to: Rules & more: https://ruby-community.com || Ruby 2.4.0, 2.3.3 & 2.2.6: https://www.ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text to: https://gist.github.com || Rails questions? Ask in: #RubyOnRails || Logs: https://irclog.whitequark.org/ruby

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01:24 <izaakf> Is it possible to turn a 1D array into a 2d array?

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01:26 <go|dfish> izaakf: i'd imagine so. do you have an example before / after?

01:26 <havenwood> izaakf: Have an example of the 1D array and corresponding 2D array?

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01:26 <izaakf> I have Array.new(5, 0)

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01:27 <izaakf> but I want to make it n dimensions

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01:27 <havenwood> izaakf: So you have `[0, 0, 0, 0, 0]` and want what?

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01:27 <izaakf> n dimensions of that

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01:27 <havenwood> izaakf: Array.new(5, Array.new(5, 0))

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01:28 <izaakf> ahh

01:28 <izaakf> havenwood: ty

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01:53 <zenspider> havenwood: that won't work.

01:53 <eelster[USA]> zenspider: I spent some time looking around your website yesterday btw. It's great.

01:53 <zenspider> eelster[USA]: thanks!

01:53 <eelster[USA]> zenspider: No worries! It's a great quickref

01:54 <zenspider> izaakf: do you want to turn 1d into 2d? or just make 2d? because those are different things

01:54 <zenspider> you can't turn a prime sized array from 1d into 2d

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01:54 <zenspider> and the code that havenwood gave you doesn't work right

01:54 <zenspider> they need to be separate arrays, and that isn't

01:55 <eelster[USA]> I mean, you could, but it would be jagged/sparse and you wouldn't want that.

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01:55 <zenspider> yes, I'm assuming non-jagged

01:55 <eelster[USA]> zenspider: On the whole the way to go

01:56 <izaakf> zenspider: 1d -> 2d

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01:56 <zenspider> izaakf: look at Enumerable.each_slice

01:56 <eelster[USA]> izaakf: So, you can't do that without it being jagged if it's prime by the definition of a prime number

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01:57 <zenspider> >> (1..9).to_a.each_slice 3

01:57 <zenspider> where's the bot?

01:57 <zenspider> apeiros: ^^ ?

01:57 <eelster[USA]> zenspider: => #<Enumerator: [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]:each_slice(3)>

01:57 <zenspider> haha

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01:58 <zenspider> >> (1..9).each_slice(3).to_a # fine

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01:58 <zenspider> ruby[bot]: wake up

01:59 <eelster[USA]> I don't think ruby[bot] is here

01:59 <zenspider> I tabbed it

01:59 <eelster[USA]> It won't tab complete to it

01:59 <blackbombay> it's not here.

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01:59 <eelster[USA]> zenspider: What client?

01:59 <zenspider> erc

01:59 <zenspider> (emacs)

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02:00 <eelster[USA]> Oh, I'm on irssi

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02:03 <eelster[USA]> Maybe ruby[bot] is updating to 2.4.0?

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02:48 <havenwood> oops, I should have said: Array.new(5) { Array.new 5, 0 }

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03:32 <paradisaeidae_> hny Ruby! Upgrading from 2.2.0 to 2.4.0 here, attempting gem server, looks like Socket has moved a bit. socket.rb has 'become' socket.so

03:33 <paradisaeidae_> Having skipped 2.3 this is new to me. So I'm getting undefined method `tcp_server_sockets' for Socket:Class

03:33 <paradisaeidae_> This must be a known issue?

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03:42 <Radar> paradisaeidae_: Can you show me how you're calling `tcp_server_sockets`? I'm doing `require 'socket'` to load the Socket class, and then `Socket.tcp_server_sockets` and it works for me.

03:43 <Radar> Also, looks to me like `socket.rb` is in the same place in 2.4.0: /Users/ryanbigg/.rubies/ruby-2.4.0/lib/ruby/2.4.0/socket.rb as it is in 2.3: /Users/ryanbigg/.rubies/ruby-2.3.1/lib/ruby/2.3.0/socket.rb:750

03:46 <paradisaeidae_> looks like I'm missing the 2.4.0/socket.rb file...

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03:47 <paradisaeidae_> Ruby compiles so quickly now I don't see all the messages...

03:47 <paradisaeidae_> maybe something happened there.

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03:52 <paradisaeidae_> manually copied socket.rb to ../lib and it passes that point

03:53 <paradisaeidae_> thx!

03:53 <zenspider> I miss the days when ruby would literally compile, link, and install in a minute. :(

03:54 <adam12> :O

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05:15 <ruby-lang761> myarray = [1,2,3,4]

05:15 <ruby-lang761> how to take random numbers from first element to last element?

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05:17 <ruby-lang761> take command only takes from first element

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05:19 <Radar> ruby-lang761: [1,2,3,4].shuffle

05:19 <Radar> >> [1,2,3,4].shuffle

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05:21 <ruby-lang761> thx @Radar :)

05:22 <ruby-lang761> how come there's no shuffle in ruby docs?

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05:22 <ruby-lang761> oh there is :)

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05:31 <ruby-lang761> hi shuffle doesn't work for range ?

05:31 <ruby-lang761> (first_no..second_no).shuffle

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05:32 <Radar> Because it's not defined on Range. You would need to convert the Range to an Array first.

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05:33 <ruby-lang761> thx bro

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06:58 <gatewarstrek> I have a gem (google-protobuf) that ships with native extension binaries, however they are built incorrectly for the environment I'm in. Is there a simple way to force the native extensions to build despite the included binaries?

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09:25 <arnovr> Hello, I am very new to ruby, and i dont understand why this doesnt work

09:25 <arnovr> require 'fest'

09:25 <arnovr> end

09:25 <arnovr>

09:25 <arnovr> class World < fest::bar

09:25 <arnovr> module Hello

09:25 <arnovr> end

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09:25 <apeiros> arnovr: and "doesn't work" means what? you get an exception?

09:25 <arnovr> uninitialized constant Hello::fest::bar However changing it to ::fest::bar doesnt work either

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09:26 <apeiros> aha

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09:26 <apeiros> constants must start with an uppercase letter

09:26 <apeiros> so fest::bar can't be a constant

09:26 <dminuoso> arnovr: What do you think your code should do?

09:26 <apeiros> where/how do you define fest::bar?

09:26 <arnovr> My example is inccorrect, they are actual uppercase start letters

09:26 <apeiros> arnovr: don't do that.

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09:27 <apeiros> don't provide made up examples.

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09:27 <apeiros> if you provide smaller examples, make sure they exhibit exactly the same behavior as your real code.

09:27 <herwin> to quote the topic: "Paste >3 lines of text to: https://gist.github.com"

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09:28 <arnovr> Not all the ruby rules are perfectly clear to me, sorry for the incorrect example. missed the upper case diff

09:28 <apeiros> arnovr: sure re not all rules are clear - but you can run your example and verify it has the same problem.

09:28 <apeiros> arnovr: or just provide the real code.

09:28 <apeiros> at the beginning probably the better idea anyway.

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09:33 <dminuoso> apeiros: You know what we should do?

09:33 <dminuoso> apeiros: We should adopt something from the C++ channels.

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09:34 <arnovr> Going to see if i will get a gist for this

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11:39 <ruby-lang541> if num =~ /[0-9]/ puts "hoho" end

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11:39 <ruby-lang541> reges don't work for if statement is it?

11:39 <ruby-lang541> regex*

11:40 <ruby-lang541> the above can't match the number from 0-9

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11:40 <ruby-lang541> when i enter 1

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11:42 <ruby-lang541> ?

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11:45 <herwin> is num a String or an Integer?

11:45 <ruby-lang541> integer

11:45 <ruby-lang541> i converted it

11:46 <herwin> regexes don't work on integers

11:46 <herwin> on the other hand: why would you try to see if an integer contains 0-9?

11:46 <ruby-lang541> lol is it?

11:47 <Zarthus> ruby-lang541: Do you maybe want if num < 10

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11:47 <ruby-lang541> ya i know that way

11:47 <ruby-lang541> i was just asking for regex only :)

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11:47 <ruby-lang541> so basically regex only works on strings?

11:47 <herwin> and on symbols, but they are converted to strings

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11:48 <Zarthus> regex is pretty bad at figuring out numeric ranges.

11:48 <Zarthus> but in theory, your regex would still be wrong.

11:48 <Zarthus> you want if num.to_s =~ /^[0-9]$/

11:48 <ruby-lang541> why?

11:48 <herwin> anchors

11:48 <herwin> f00bar would match too

11:48 <herwin> like Zarthus said ;)

11:48 <ruby-lang541> i converted before hand

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11:49 <ruby-lang541> [0-9]$ means match from 0-9 inside bracket with $?

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11:50 <herwin> https://ruby-doc.org/core-2.4.0/Regexp.html#class-Regexp-label-Anchors

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11:55 <apeiros> Zarthus: still wrong ;-)

11:55 <apeiros> you want /\A[0-9]\z/

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11:55 <Zarthus> apeiros: Ruby doesn't have ^ and $?

11:55 <apeiros> and that can be written shorter as: /\A\d\z/

11:55 <apeiros> Zarthus: it does. but it doesn't mean what you think

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11:55 <apeiros> ^$ => start/end of *line*

11:55 <apeiros> \A\z => start/end of *string*

11:55 <Zarthus> is that not a line :P

11:55 <blackbom1> \A\z is usually what you want.

11:56 <apeiros> >> "hello\n9\nworld" =~ /^\d$/ # @ Zarthus

11:56 <apeiros> oh, right, ruboto offline :(

11:56 <blackbom1> why

11:56 <apeiros> no idea

11:56 <Zarthus> *shrugs*, maybe just me but my strings usually are split if they are multiple lines long :P

11:56 <Zarthus> netsplits, probably.

11:56 <apeiros> Zarthus: "are usually split" - not in any of the code bases I've ever read.

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11:56 <apeiros> and I've read quite a bit of code :)

11:57 <Zarthus> maybe i'm just weird :(

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11:57 <Zarthus> I try to avoid using regex on large strings :P

11:57 <apeiros> anyway, ^$ makes for easy mistakes in validations

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11:58 <Torrone> hello, I'm having trouble making a valid request, always getting "OAuth signature does not match". I have two virtually identical requests, one works ( in Postman ) the other doesn't, the latter is sent from Ruby on Rails, I'm trying to request a token from a wordpress application.

11:58 <Torrone> these are the two requests for comparison: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7fe741534573ff0d50aedb86990e9061

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12:52 <jlach> Can anyone give me a high level overview of what is the significance of a object being wrapped in a T_NODE(NODE_LIT)?

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12:53 <jlach> I'm seeing a TimeoutError("execution expired") being assigned to th->errinfo, but instead of a plain T_OBJECT it's wrapped in T_NODE(NODE_LIT) and then causes a segfault when it's passed, still wrapped, to rb_exc_raise

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13:52 <jlach> (hm found out that the T_NODE(NODE_LIT) is coming from `rb_throw_obj`: `th->errinfo = NEW_THROW_OBJECT(tag, 0, TAG_THROW);`. The problem seems to be that this is then passed to rb_throw_obj *again*

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14:28 <alireza> what's the better way to do this?

14:28 <alireza> def role?(role) roles.any { |role| role.name.underscore.to_sym == role } end

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14:28 <alireza> to not shadowing outer scope variable role

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14:30 <ytti> by better i guess you mean working?

14:30 <ytti> i thnk any is any?

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14:30 <ytti> and umm, just give the variables differen name

14:31 <alireza> ytti: i don't want to

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14:31 <ytti> def role?(role_want);roles.any? { |role| role.name.underscore.to_sym == role_want }; end

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14:31 <ytti> you don't want to shadow them, but you want to have same variable name?

14:32 <ytti> so essentially you want role and role to be different, but same

14:32 <ytti> like coke new

14:32 <ytti> unfortuantely i don't have solution for that problem, best of luck

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14:39 <apeiros> alireza: "I want two times the same variable name with different content" - not possible. and does not make sense to boot.

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14:39 <apeiros> oh, + "i

14:39 <apeiros> erg, premature enter

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17:39 <ruby-lang509> File.exist?(<path to file>+"/") why this should return true?

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17:40 <ruby-lang509> Sorry I mean why File.exist?(<path to file>+"/") should return false?

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17:41 <ruby-lang509> @channel

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17:42 <eelster> Is ruby[bot] back?

17:42 <eelster> >> puts 'test'

17:43 <eelster> Nope :/

17:43 <ruby-lang509> anyone?

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17:44 <eelster> ruby-lang509: Hello!

17:44 <ruby-lang509> Hey

17:44 <ruby-lang509> I've question

17:44 <ruby-lang509> why File.exist?(<path to file>+"/") should return false?

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17:44 <eelster> ruby-lang509: Because that's a directory at this point.

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17:45 <eelster> Anything that ends with '/' is canonically a directory.

17:45 <ruby-lang509> No if we've path to file which just ends with /

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17:45 <eelster> But that's not a path to a file. That's a directory.

17:45 <ruby-lang509> I'm seeing diff behaviour with Java

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17:46 <eelster> ruby-lang509: Java might cut ignore the trailing '/'

17:46 <ruby-lang509> they actually result with true

17:46 <ruby-lang509> yes

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17:46 <ruby-lang509> that's why asking ?

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17:46 <eelster> ruby-lang509: Which Java method are you using?

17:47 <ruby-lang509> 1 min

17:48 <ruby-lang509> this is snippet from jruby

17:48 <ruby-lang509> jruby -e 'f = java.io.File.new("../snippets/cp2.rb/"); p f.exists?'

17:48 <ruby-lang509> not sure

17:48 <ruby-lang509> I'll have to debug which method is called for exists?

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17:48 <Rich_Morin1> In Sinatra, whenever I get (say) a RuntimeError, I get a stack trace. Can someone tell me who is putting this out and how I might be able to abridge it?

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17:49 <eelster> ruby-lang509: It's likely the ruby method called for exists. I'm betting that java.io.File.new trims the trailing '/' in the constructor.

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17:49 <eelster> Rich_Morin1: What's the stack trace? That's unfortunately a very vague question.

17:50 <havenwood> ruby-lang509: A filename can't contain a slash. Don't do that!

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17:51 <ruby-lang509> @havenwood @eelster I see your point. My simple question are we following some conventions?

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17:52 <eelster> ruby-lang509: Yes. The convention of file-naming is that a file name cannot end with a slash

17:52 <eelster> Directories end with slashes, file names do not.

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17:52 <havenwood> ruby-lang509: POSIX forbids slash or NULL, even in filenames that are not fully portable.

17:53 <eelster> POSIX is a pretty good standard.

17:53 <Rich_Morin1> 2017-01-05 15:38:02 - RuntimeError - Foo:

17:53 <Rich_Morin1> … for dozens of lines

17:53 <Rich_Morin1> /Volumes/Fido/Local/u/rdm/Private/Work/P_AxAp/V_0.1/System/axap/views/AxAp/index.erb:30:in `block in singleton class'

17:53 <Rich_Morin1> /Volumes/Fido/Local/u/rdm/Private/Work/P_AxAp/V_0.1/System/axap/lib/AxAp/show_all.rb:88:in `ver_etc'

17:53 <eelster> Can you gist both the code and the error?

17:54 <havenwood> ruby-lang509: Windows doesn't allow a forward slash in a filename either. I don't know of anything that does.

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17:54 <havenwood> ruby-lang509: It's forbidden.

17:55 <havenwood> ruby-lang509: Never put a slash in a filename. There can't be slashes in filenames.

17:55 <Rich_Morin1> eelster: I could, but the exact error isn't the point. The point is that I don't need or want a full stack trace, just the first few lines.

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17:55 <eelster> Rich_Morin1: Is the stack trace longer than usual? I don't really get what you're asking here.

17:56 <ruby-lang509> Jruby uses JavaSecuredFile which internally uses java.io.File

17:56 <ruby-lang509> which actually resolving to correct file name

17:56 <ruby-lang509> even if it ends with /

17:56 <eelster> ruby-lang509: Yes. I said that a while ago. It ignores the trailing slash.

17:56 <havenwood> ruby-lang509: Why are you putting a slash on the end of a filename? That's not the name of the file...

17:56 <ruby-lang509> I'm not

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17:57 <eelster> ruby-lang509: I just don't understand this question. This seems like an XY.

17:57 <ruby-lang509> actually this came out as a question because we see diff behaviour with Jruby

17:57 <ruby-lang509> so asking who should fix the issue

17:57 <eelster> ruby-lang509: There is actually a lot of different behavior with JRuby vs. Ruby.

17:57 <ruby-lang509> which conventions we should follow

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17:57 <ruby-lang509> to be consistent

17:57 <havenwood> ruby-lang509: Check in the #jruby channel.

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17:57 <Rich_Morin1> eelster: http://pastie.org/10988305

17:58 <eelster> JRuby isn't guaranteed to have the same behavior as Ruby. For example, before 2.4.0, FixNum was portably 64 bits in JRuby but was machine dependent in Ruby.

17:58 <eelster> Rich_Morin1: So you want a shorter stack trace?

17:58 <jair> hello all, hope you are doing well and happy new year. I am here to get some recommendations from you guys in getting a book in amazon or following online content? I want to understand/learn Ruby because I will be using a lot of automation with a devops software called CHEF

17:58 <ruby-lang509> Yes I agree. There are differences

17:58 <havenwood> jair: So you're familiar with some other langs?

17:59 <eelster> jair: _why's poignant guide is also my rec.

17:59 <jair> comments are welcome and really appreciated

17:59 <eelster> s/also/always

17:59 <eelster> But, also, checkout the Pickax.

17:59 <jair> havenwood: hmm little bit of python and bash only

17:59 <ruby-lang509> So we should follow posix conventions right?

17:59 <eelster> Rich_Morin1: You might be interested in this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1003313/rails-ruby-any-way-to-shorten-the-stack-traces

17:59 <eelster> ruby-lang509: If you are working on POSIX compliant machiens.

18:00 <havenwood> jair: Okay, with some background like that the Well-Grounded Rubyist, Second Edition is a good primer or so is the Ruby Programming Language, thought it's a bit outdated.

18:00 <ruby-lang509> I see.

18:00 <havenwood> though*

18:00 <Rich_Morin1> eelster: tnx

18:00 <jair> havenwood: I understand

18:00 <baweaver> Also Chef isn't capitalized.

18:00 <ruby-lang509> eelster: havenwood: thanks!

18:00 <eelster> Rich_Morin1: No worries. I personally like long stack traces because they are more informative

18:00 <jair> sure sorry about the capital in Chef

18:00 <eelster> ruby-lang509: No worries!

18:00 <havenwood> jair: If you want to really dig into the details, Ruby Under a Microscope is the best.

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18:01 <baweaver> Start with Eloquent Ruby

18:01 <baweaver> it'll take care of basics and idiomatics out the gate

18:01 <eelster> baweaver: Eloquent is a pretty good book.

18:01 <havenwood> I haven't read Eloquent Ruby :-O

18:01 <jair> havenwood: I am a cloud infrastructure engineer, normally getting the servers up and running for programmers

18:01 <baweaver> If you have any programming experience and want to learn Ruby, Eloquent Ruby is _the_ book

18:02 <jair> havenwood: so I will not mind to start with basics but focus in tasks for automation like Chef does

18:02 <havenwood> jair: The Well-Grounded Rubyist jumps right into things and is up-to-date but I haven't read Eloquent Ruby to be able to compare.

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18:02 <eelster> I've read a ton of Ruby books and depending upon your background and learning style there are a lot of different recs.

18:02 <baweaver> Chef is just a DSL on top of Ruby

18:02 <havenwood> baweaver: Have you read Well-Grounded? We need to find someone who's read them both!

18:02 <havenwood> How do they stack up?

18:02 <baweaver> so realistically you don't _need_ to know Ruby, but should

18:02 <eelster> I unfortunatley have't read Well-GRounded

18:02 <baweaver> Well Grounded and Eloquent were both good

18:02 <baweaver> but Eloquent tops it for me

18:03 <havenwood> nice

18:03 <eelster> jair: Are you into quirky learning styles at all?

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18:03 <eelster> Or more straightforward spec type stuff?

18:03 <havenwood> baweaver: I'll give it a look for tutoring!

18:03 <baweaver> _why's guide is old

18:03 <jair> havenwood: understand so: 1) The Well-Grounded Rubyist 2nd edition 2) Eloquent Ruby 3) Ruby Under a Microscope

18:03 <havenwood> but it does come with a soundtrack

18:03 <eelster> baweaver: _why's guide is old, but it's still pretty strong and I think is by far the most interseting book.

18:04 <baweaver> Give me a bit

18:04 <eelster> I mean the Pickaxe is old as well, but it's the bible for Ruby IMO.

18:04 <havenwood> jair: Those sound excellent.

18:04 <baweaver> and you'll see The Cloud Administrator's Guide to Ruby

18:04 <baweaver> Na, the Bible for Ruby is The Ruby Way

18:04 <baweaver> and it's current

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18:04 <eelster> baweaver: I find the Pickaxe comparable to K&R

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18:05 <havenwood> Print and bind the Ruby source code.

18:05 * baweaver reads almost every Ruby book he finds

18:05 <eelster> I do love the Ruby Way though.

18:05 <jair> I like the one I am reading now about Python "Python Crash Course: A Hands-On, Project-Based Introduction to Programming"

18:05 <eelster> Ruby cookbook is hit or miss.

18:05 <jair> understand

18:05 <jair> thanks you very much

18:06 <eelster> I wouldn't go with Learn Ruby the Hard Way personally.

18:06 <baweaver> Chef has a lot of video tutorials

18:06 * havenwood reads

18:06 <havenwood> heh, turns out I have a copy of Eloquent Ruby I just haven't read it

18:06 <eelster> Lot's of people recommend it, but I really think it teaches Ruby poorly.

18:06 <baweaver> a lot of them free

18:06 <eelster> *Lots

18:06 <jair> I am really looking for a book that walk me through real scenario problems and how to automate and solve

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18:06 <baweaver> doesn't really quite exist yet. Most of them are broad concepts

18:06 <havenwood> "The Cloud Administrator's Guide to Ruby" :-D

18:06 <jair> Ok will start getting the list

18:06 <baweaver> avoid Packt Publishing like the plague

18:06 <Rich_Morin1> eelster: Apparently, Rails incorporated and extended Thoughtbot's "Quiet Backtrace" code, several years ago. What's the easiest way to get this functionality in Sinatra?

18:07 <baweaver> havenwood: Yep, writing a book.

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18:07 <baweaver> It'll cover a lot of practical cloud tech

18:07 <havenwood> baweaver: If you need additional editor eyes shoot me an early copy!

18:07 <baweaver> Probably LeanPub unless I have someone like NoStarch pick it up

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18:07 <eelster> I'm a huge PragProg fan personally.

18:08 <havenwood> nice

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18:08 <baweaver> It'll cover NetSSH, AWS, Google Compute, Azure, Chef, and testing all of it

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18:08 <eelster> Rich_Morin1: I'm not sure. I think there was a guide as well (not the accepted answer) as to how to do it yourself.

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18:09 <eelster> baweaver: What's the worst Ruby book you've read?

18:09 * baweaver tries to find title

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18:09 <eelster> I've tried writing a Ruby book a few times, and I end up getting too bogged down in details and it's not great.

18:10 <baweaver> It's either "Pro Active Record" (Packt) or "Programming Problems in Ruby"

18:10 <baweaver> PAR had tons of typos, wrong examples, and flat out non-working code

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18:10 <eelster> FUcking Packt

18:10 <jair> alright guys, thanks

18:11 <baweaver> PPiR used for loops to demonstrate Ruby and had no idea how to use the language idiomatically.

18:11 <jair> thank you so much

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18:11 <baweaver> It was like a Java programmer put on Ruby clothes and called it a day

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18:11 <baweaver> I find that as far as publishers:

18:11 <eelster> baweaver: seeing for in any ruby code is generally a pretyt good sign that that the person has no idea how to use ruby idiomatically.

18:11 <jair> I am sure will be hanging out here in the future

18:11 <baweaver> Top Tier: NoStarch, PragProg, Addison-Wesley

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18:12 <havenwood> jair: Welcome!

18:12 <eelster> jair: Have fun and remember MINASWAN

18:12 <baweaver> Mid Tier: O'Reilly, Manning

18:12 <jair> havenwood, baweaver eelster : Thanks (^^)

18:12 <baweaver> Bottom: Packt

18:12 <havenwood> Ruby is 和.

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18:13 <eelster> If only I knew how to read Han?

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18:13 <eelster> baweaver: I agree with that.

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18:13 <baweaver> Apress is also bottom tier

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18:13 <baweaver> Manning and O'Reilly are hit or miss a lot

18:13 <eelster> If I published I'd want to go with PragProg.

18:13 <baweaver> I've never had a bad NoStarch or AW book

18:13 <eelster> baweaver: Yeah. Some of O'Reilly's books are top notch, but others are awful.

18:14 <baweaver> my PragProg is limited

18:14 <eelster> I have like 10 PragProg books and love them.

18:14 <baweaver> but what I've read is good

18:14 <eelster> Their tmux book is eh, but I don't really know why I bought a book on tmux so, it's more my fault.

18:15 <baweaver> fair.

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18:15 <eelster> I will also always have a softspot for PragProg because their book was huge for introducing Ruby to a wider audience.

18:16 <baweaver> https://twitter.com/keystonelemur/status/693313135168520193 - that was a year ago

18:16 <eelster> I should really pick up that sed & awk book.

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18:16 <baweaver> It's grown considerably since then

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18:17 <eelster> What do you think of Learn you a Haskell?

18:17 <baweaver> Practical Common Lisp was decent, but the other two Apress books are trash

18:17 <baweaver> Good but can be hard to get into.

18:17 <baweaver> There's also Learn you an Erlang now

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18:17 <eelster> That's what I felt. I kept having trouble getting into it. Then I picked up Haskell from First Principles and loved it.

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18:18 <elomatreb> There was a humble bundle recently with O'Reilly books, been reading those ever since

18:18 <baweaver> I'll make a note of that one.

18:18 <baweaver> Ahaha

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18:19 <baweaver> bitemyapp wrote it

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18:19 <baweaver> that would be good then

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18:19 <eelster> Who is bitemyapp?

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18:19 <baweaver> Chris Allen

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18:19 <eelster> Oh, yeah haha.

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18:20 <eelster> It's huge, but it's really a great,great resource.

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18:20 <baweaver> He's been teaching haskell for years

18:20 <eelster> I'm pretty sure I've talked with him before in the haskell channel haha.

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18:21 <baweaver> If you're on a programming channel, chances are I'm on it or have been in the past

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18:22 <eelster> I'm mostly only haskell, ruby, and sometimes python or c.

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18:22 <eelster> Ruby is by far my favorite programming channel.

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18:23 <baweaver> may have gotten carried away in learning languages, now I'm somewhere north of 30, 10 of which I can write production code in today if I wanted to. The others would take me a week to get back into.

18:23 <eelster> baweaver: I do that too though. It's not a bad practice. Learning haskell definitely helped my Ruby.

18:23 <baweaver> Scala is an easy jump once you know those two

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18:23 <eelster> baweaver: Is that on the JVM?

18:24 <baweaver> yep

18:24 <baweaver> Scala and Clojure tend to be popular for that.

18:24 <baweaver> Frege is Haskell on JVM

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18:24 <eelster> Frege is odd to me.

18:25 <baweaver> Anyways, back to work for me, need to finish some stuff before the weekend.

18:25 <eelster> baweaver: Have fun. Remember not to deploy because it's friday.

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18:26 <havenwood> Freyja's cats will maul you if you deploy on her day.

18:26 <eelster> havenwood: As they should

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18:44 <eelster> >> puts 'ruby bot please come back'

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19:08 <ivanskie> hey all, question regarding git flow.. when doing a Ruby version bump and Rails version bump of the app (hasn't been updated in a while).. is that a feature, release, or hotfix?

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19:11 <ivanskie> or am i not doing it right if im asking that question?

19:11 <ivanskie> lopl

19:13 <Yxhuvud> How are we going to be able to answer something that is in all ways something that is unique to your project?

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19:16 <kirun> Different projects have wildly varying policies on how they number things... but if it's a must-upgrade-ruby change, probably increment the "big" version number.

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19:17 <kirun> If it's a now-can-upgrade-ruby, increment whatever as long as you communicate clearly.

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19:17 <kirun> And then look at the written policy of other projects, pick one and use it in future.

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19:45 <a1fa> is it possible to return a hash within a hash using a select on the parrent?

19:45 <a1fa> parent.select { |key,another_hash| another_hash[:age] == '80' } #example

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19:46 <a1fa> i want to just select another_hash, not key[another_hash] altogether

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19:58 <a1fa> no takers?

19:58 <a1fa> i dont want to do parent.each {}

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20:08 <rjungemann> Would #reduce work?

20:09 <rjungemann> Something like:

20:09 <rjungemann> parent.reduce([]) { |a, (key,another_hash)| a << another_hash if another_hash[:age] == '80'; a }

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20:24 <a1fa> rjungemann: how about adding .each at the end of the select block

20:24 <a1fa> how nasty is that?

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20:25 <a1fa> parent.select { |key,another_hash| another_hash[:age] == '80' }.each {|key,another_hash| another_hash} ?

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20:31 <a1fa> reduce is better, thanks rjungemann

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20:32 <rjungemann> Oh yeah you'll probably want to use #map instead of #each but the approach you posted would also work

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20:36 <a1fa> rjungemann: reduce was much faster

20:36 <a1fa> i just dont understand why it worked like it did

20:37 <a1fa> the initial [], and a

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20:37 <a1fa> reading the reduce manual, no way would i've been able to do it this way

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20:39 <a1fa> very nice trick

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20:44 <rjungemann> It took awhile to wrap my head around it too. You pass in the initial value, and then the first argument piped in is the "accumulator" value. Then you manipulate the accumulator and return it at the end of the block. It's a trick found a lot in languages with a heavy functional bent. Another cool trick is that if you reduce on a hash, you can get the key and

20:44 <rjungemann> some_hash.reduce({}) { |h, (k, v) puts("The key and value are #{k} and #{v}."); h[k] = v; h }

20:44 <rjungemann> value like this:

20:44 <rjungemann> Oops, forgot the second pipe character. It should read: `|h, (k, v)|`

20:45 <a1fa> very neat - i'll have to put this in my notes

20:45 <a1fa> this change literally cut down 2.5h on processing of my files

20:46 <a1fa> dude before me put hashes into an array, and looped over them.. 1.6mil of them, for every 1.6mil records

20:46 <a1fa> so 1.6x1.6 mil loop

20:47 <SeepingN> yikes

20:47 <a1fa> great programmer.. he just never expected this to go up to 1.6mil records on ingestion

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20:47 <a1fa> i ended up converting the array into keyed hashes

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20:48 <a1fa> it now takes 6s to process the file

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20:48 <rjungemann> Eep! I've done a good amount of parsing of like TSV files and shit, and it's amazing how simple optimizations can save a ton of time. Another fun trick I like to use for huge chunks of data is sets and then checking membership of the set. For example, to see if I'm dealing with a duplicate record or whatever.

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20:49 <a1fa> yep a lot of those

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20:51 <rjungemann> For io-bound workloads, I've squeezed some additional performance out of using worker pools or the like with the concurrent-ruby gem. It doesn't work well if most of the expense is in Ruby because of the GIL, but is useful for some things

20:51 <rjungemann> And of course threading has its own perils

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20:55 <dionysus69> hey apeiros :D :) and others :)

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22:10 <zenspider> wow... this channel is DEAD. therefore... ruby must be dead.

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22:11 <elomatreb> Obviously

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22:14 <eam> maybe all the problems have been solved?

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22:15 <zenspider> all of them. done. go home

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22:15 <eam> I ... I am at home

22:15 <zenspider> you're a step ahead of me.

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22:43 <Torrone> Hello guys, I'm struggling with Oauth 1.0, used by the new almost official wordpress rest api, I have this code: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7003659292c522bc65efc21f3c4379ce . If I pass a parameter with no spaces, it updates my post correctly, if parameter has spaces, I get a signature mismatch. Does anyone have any idea?

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22:45 <zenspider> Torrone: the signature code?

22:45 <zenspider> please don't build your own url by hand... that's terribly error prone

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22:46 <Torrone> zenspider, I've tried with the oauth gem but it didn't do the job

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22:47 <zenspider> you're already using encode_www_form... why would you build another by hand? https://docs.ruby-lang.org/en/2.1.0/URI.html#method-c-encode_www_form

22:47 <Torrone> zenspider, do you know a function that does what I need?

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22:57 <Torrone> stealing from here https://github.com/oauth-xx/oauth-ruby/blob/master/lib/oauth/helper.rb I had even worse results

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23:00 <zenspider> I'd expect so

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23:00 <Torrone> why?

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23:05 <apeiros> he's a pessimist

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23:07 <Torrone> status here https://github.com/oauth-xx/oauth-ruby is build/error

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