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<xcyclist> How do I make my ruby raise keep going up until caught or at the top?
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<SeepingN> insuring each level has something to catch it
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<SeepingN> if you can't control that.... *shrug*
<xcyclist> So there is nothing to just make a setting so that it goes up forever?
<xcyclist> I can control anything I want, but I don't want piles of ugly relay code. Why is that necessary?
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<xcyclist> Much easier just to exit.
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<My_Hearing> I'm not sure what you mean, if you have three methods, foo which calls bar which calls baz and an exception is raised inside baz when you have a begin/rescue/end inside foo, that rescue in foo will be used, you don't need one in bar too
<Radar> ?code xcyclist
<ruby[bot]> xcyclist: We can't help you without your code, please post it to https://gist.github.com
<xcyclist> I don't have code. I simply want to raise an exception that goes up forever to the end of the program.
<xcyclist> Isn't that about the simplest question on the planet?
<Radar> hahahahahaha
<Radar> No.
<xcyclist> Why does one need code to ask that?
<xcyclist> Either you can do it or you cannot.
<Radar> !mute xcyclist
<Radar> Had about enough of that attitude tyvm. Cool off for 15 mins.
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<Radar> If you have a problem with code, it's typically assumed that you can show some code for the problem you're asking about.
<Radar> !unmute xyclist
<ruby[bot]> Radar: I could not identify any mutes matching the nick "xyclist"
<Radar> !unmute xcyclist
<My_Hearing> They've already left FYI
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<Radar> Yup, noticed.
<Radar> I have no time for aggressive attitudes from people who want help.
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<FrostyBytes> greetings ruby afficionados. I want to start a process without a subshell. That is, I want the ruby process to directly be the parent of the launched process, without a shell in the sandwich. how to do this?
<SeepingN> exec?
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<FrostyBytes> well exec would overlap the current process, so I need at least fork+exec
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<FrostyBytes> apparently fork+exec is the right way to do it and fully expected to work in ruby: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/806267/how-to-fire-and-forget-a-subprocess
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<csplugins> Hello. date = Time.new date = date.year.to_s + "-" + date.month.to_s + "-" date.day.to_s I am using this to name a file. My problem is I want Jan 9, 2017 to display as 2017-01-09 but it is saving as 2017-1-9. How can I resolve this?
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<My_Hearing> Use Date#strftime instead
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<My_Hearing> >> require 'date'; Date.today.strftime("%Y-%m-%d")
<ruby[bot]> My_Hearing: # => "2017-01-31" (https://eval.in/727253)
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<csplugins> So Date is more preferred than Time.New when dealing with strictly dates?
<My_Hearing> Oh, no, it works with dates to
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<csplugins> Okay perfect, thanks
<My_Hearing> I would use Date if I don't care about the Time though, e.g. so comparing by equality and some other operations make sense
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<FrostyBytes> how do I make a string literal that will be ASCII_8BIT?
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<elomatreb> >> a = "test".b
<elomatreb> ; p a.encoding # FrostyBytes
<ruby[bot]> elomatreb: # => "test" (https://eval.in/727260)
<elomatreb> uh
<elomatreb> >> a = "test".b; a.encoding # FrostyBytes
<ruby[bot]> elomatreb: # => #<Encoding:ASCII-8BIT> (https://eval.in/727261)
<elomatreb> Like that
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<FrostyBytes> ok I will just use the --encoding command line option to force ASCII-8BIT
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<FrostyBytes> how do I write this in ruby: (((signed char) (((status) & 0x7f) + 1) >> 1) > 0) ?
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<iloveamerica1> ruby was the language of 2014 and javascript has been the language for the past 2 years what will be the language of this year?
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<FrostyBytes> rubyscript?
<danielpclark> I'm waiting for WebAssembly say we can havetrue Ruby in the browser.
<FrostyBytes> ocaml dances the pants off of javascript btw
<elomatreb> FrostyBytes: I gave you a better way to create a ASCII-8BIT string, see here: http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.4.0/String.html#method-i-b
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<DoctorMonocular> I'm having an issue with Rubymine where it won't run my rails app, saying [No Rails Found in SDK], but rails is totally there and works from the terminal for the same project. I see stuff on google going back to 2009, but nothing that fixes it or applies to the latest rubymine. Does anyone know what the issue might be?
<chaos95> DoctorMonocular: you could try #idea-users also
<DoctorMonocular> oh nice, I didn't know aboutthat channel
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<FrostyBytes> what's the fastest way to create a string of X bytes?
<FrostyBytes> I know "".rjust(X) works but is that fast?
<baweaver> FrostyBytes: you can look at the C code for it
<baweaver> though I think by that point you're being pedantic about it
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<gry> http://dpaste.com/32KHZ13.txt what do i do with this ? depencency problem or what ?
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<Radar> gry: try `bundle exec jekyll build ...`
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<zamuro> Hello, guys... Let's say I've got two ActiveRecord models (A and B) and I'd like to pass a verification in model C that checks if there's A.id and B.id are in a given record. Do I pass a query on model and throw a conditional into the controller?
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<manveru> ?ror zamuro
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<MadWasp> How would I version a gem that is an extension of another gem and always depends on a specific version of that one?
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<apeiros> MadWasp: probably lockstep versioning
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<apeiros> (same version as the gem it depends on)
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<MadWasp> but then i couldn’t introduce breaking changes into my own gem
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<MadWasp> or well i couldn’t signal it by changing the version
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<andremaha> Anyone knows any good scraper gem? Something like phatnom.js
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<blackbombay> andremaha: what do you want to do?
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<andremaha> I want to take a web page load the contents and then go though it - and extract some of it. For instance: h1#title
<MadWasp> apeiros: any other idea?
<andremaha> Great would be a ajax support - for the parts of the page that are loading asynchronously
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<apeiros> MadWasp: not really. maybe <your-version>-<dependentgem-version> and have a proper gemspec. not sure where that could lead to problems, though.
<MadWasp> i guess you can’t use ~> or => anymore then
<apeiros> andremaha: phantomjs exists for ruby. I'd use capybara as the driver. it's like a DBI layer but for browsers.
<apeiros> MadWasp: that should still work if your gemspec fits
<apeiros> it'll select the highest version which satisfies the conditions
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<andremaha> Ok, so capybara + poltergeist + running phantomjs intance.
<andremaha> Got you. Thanks. Will try that.
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<A124> Is there a better short way to check if number is in array, or if not array, they are equal then this?:
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<A124> [object].flatten.include?
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<apeiros> that's horrible. why do you have once an array and once a number?
<apeiros> note that flatten will kill nested arrays.
<A124> Yeah, do not need nested arrays.
<A124> Just... for people writing config that put one element or multiple.
<A124> To handle that case.
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<herwin> Array(object).include? would be a bit cleaner
<herwin> until object is a nil
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<gry> Hello?
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<gry> http://dpaste.com/35CPNX1.txt I do not get why it refuses to see, I already installed this gem just one command away
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<gry> Please, it's EU morning, I would suggest someone to peek in :)
<gry> (I'm in the unfortunate UTC+11 tz -- meaning I miss out on the wonderful 'day' and keep asking questions at 'night', and end up asking in void most of the time)
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<cgibsonmm> NOTICE <gry> whats question
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<Mon_Ouie> Is the gem in your Gemfile? Bundler only allows you to activate gems that have been configured for this project, not those you have installed globally
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<cgibsonmm> gry: Whats question
<machinewar> any way to add to a URI, so initialized with URI("http://www.myapp.com") but then send requests to various endpoints?
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<gry> i think some env problem
<gry> i already added /home/private/.gem/ruby/2.3/bin to $PATH
<gry> so what can i do from there
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<gry> 'gem install jekyll-gettext-plugin' - '1 gem installed' - jekyll build --destination /home/public/ -> Yikes! It looks like you don't have jekyll-gettext-plugin or one of its dependencies installed
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<gry> it's like 'A, but no A for you'
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<gry> i don't know where it is looking
<Mon_Ouie> I don't think gem install does anything for bundler, I think it's 'bundle update' or 'bundle install'
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<blackbom1> Mon_Ouie: youre right.
<gry> bundle install jekyll-gettext-plugin
<gry> ERROR: "bundle install" was called with arguments ["jekyll-gettext-plugin"]
<gry> Usage: "bundle install [OPTIONS]"
<Mon_Ouie> Just "bundle install", no arguments
<Mon_Ouie> Should install all the dependencies specified in the Gemfile
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<gry> http://dpaste.com/3GJB20W.txt 'Using jekyll-gettext-plugin 1.0.0' ... 'cannot load such file -- jekyll-gettext-plugin'
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<cgibsonmm> bundle exec jekyll serve you are calling this?
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<gry> no, i build
<gry> http://dpaste.com/1ZZQF2Z.txt new Gemfile, http://dpaste.com/3D5Q4H3.txt new output of build
<gry> (i put the gettext into the plugins loop in Gemfile, and the error message is less readable now)
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<Mon_Ouie> Now pry is the gem that's missing from the Gemfile it looks like
<A124> Is there a way to set private method public?
<A124> private_class_method probably. hm.
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<Mon_Ouie> Yes, by calling Class#public… why though?
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<gry> Mon_Ouie, I installed pry. It is back to the generic ''cannot load such file -- jekyll-gettext-plugin''. How do I know which dependency it needs?
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<Mon_Ouie> I'm not sure why it can't load it even though it is in the Gemfile, I'm not too familiar with bundler or Jekyll which doesn't help
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<A124> How does one make a module function public without changing the code. Aka monkey patching.
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<Mon_Ouie> By calling Class#public with the name of the method as an argument
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<Mon_Ouie> Well, Module#public in that case
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<blackbom1> Mod.module_eval { public :nameofmethod }
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<A124> Mon_Ouie Thank you. Heartily.
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<igor_preist> Hello world.
<igor_preist> I wrote a ruby script that runs `middleman build`
<igor_preist> It works great when I run it from the terminal.
<igor_preist> But when I call it from a Sinatra app, it does not.
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<apeiros> igor_preist: most likely your shell environment differs
<igor_preist> I thought so too, but it doesn’t error.
<igor_preist> I wonder is there anyway to run it in the same shell environemnt?
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<igor_preist> apeiros: You were right.
<igor_preist> Got it fixed by adding the same gems in my sinatra Gemfile as the Middleman Gemfile
<igor_preist> Thanks a lot!
<igor_preist> 8)
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<aep> where do i get net/imap from?
<aep> doesnt appear to be a gem or something
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<blackbom1> stdlib?
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<apeiros> 2
<Mon_Ouie> 1
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<apeiros> 🎉
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<apeiros> 🎉🎉🎉
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<warrshrike> hey
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<warrshrike> im trying to match phone numbers with this regex
<warrshrike> (?:\+?|\b)[0-9|-]{11}\b
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<warrshrike> how can i make it work even if there is space i.e. 0925 585855
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<warrshrike> and how can i make it work for variable lengths
<toretore> firstly, define exactly what it is you're trying to match
<apeiros> {min,max} is the quantifier notation for variable lengths
<toretore> we can't infer that from a regex that doesn't match
<apeiros> but you'll probably find that matching phone numbers will be quickly quite difficult with a regex. there are gems which probably do a better job.
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<warrshrike> 0322-4450544 0322 4450544 03224450544
<warrshrike> so roughly these are the three possiblities
<warrshrike> i think it should doable with regex?
<toretore> also, why do you need to do this in the first place?
<apeiros> warrshrike: good you used separators so we know where one starts and one ends :-p
<toretore> why do you say roughly?
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<warrshrike> apeiros: separators? ~_~
<warrshrike> toretore: okay not roughly this is pretty much it
<toretore> why do you say pretty much?
<warrshrike> its a sw to extract numbers for guests at a wedding and send them an invite message
<toretore> ;)
<toretore> be exact
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<warrshrike> sorta doing this for a friend theres is 1000s of wedding guests
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<warrshrike> okay exactly
<warrshrike> so how can i modify my regex? lol
<dminuoso> banisterfiend: Are you around? I have a question for an old article on your blog that I don't fully understand.
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<toretore> /\d\d\d\d[ -]{0,1}\d\d\d\d\d\d\d/ will match the examples you gave
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<sysvalve> hi! I've been googling and reading for a bunch of hours and don't see clearly how to isolate gems using rvm + bundler + Gemfile
<toretore> sysvalve: define isolate
<sysvalve> the idea es: dependencies for a project (Gemfile) should not interfere with the ones for other projects
<sysvalve> for example, incompatible versions
<toretore> that's exactly what bundler (Gemfile) does
<warrshrike> toretore: that doesnt work
<warrshrike> on rubular
<toretore> link
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<sysvalve> toretore: but it installs the gems under ~/rvm/gems/ruby-2.4.0-rc1 and @global
<sysvalve> i want them to be *completely different* gemsets
<toretore> why?
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<sysvalve> toretore: incompatibility etween versions
<apeiros> sysvalve: rc1? you probably should install 2.4.0 proper, not the release candidate.
<apeiros> (unrelated to your other problem)
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<toretore> sysvalve: as i said, bundler makes that a non-problem
<sysvalve> apeiros: yeah, thanks for the heads-up, it's just an installation I have lyging in a VM
<sysvalve> toretore: how?
<toretore> you specify in your Gemfile which versions you use
<warrshrike> also isnt it possible to fix mine? id feel better
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<apeiros> note: `rvm install 2.4` iirc installs 2.4.0-rc1, you have to use the full name: "ruby-2.4.0"
<sysvalve> I, in fact, stumbled upon incompatibilities
<toretore> or use the .lock
<sysvalve> some projects used JSON version 0.X and some others 0.Y
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<sysvalve> and then the project using the 0.X started throwing warnings
<warrshrike> apeiros: ?
<sysvalve> apeiros: when I rvm-installed it, the only available version was the -rc1
<sysvalve> I'll upgrade, for sure, thanks!
<apeiros> sysvalve: rvm doesn't list 2.4.0
<apeiros> for whatever reason
<apeiros> but you can still install it
<sysvalve> ah thanks then
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<sysvalve> toretore: but it is very error prone!
<sysvalve> imagine a project where any JSON is useful
<sysvalve> and works
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<sysvalve> then I start another project, and JSON upgrades, and I gem install that (using bundler)
<sysvalve> but the old project broke
<sysvalve> should I then figure out what JSON version did work in the first place__
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<sysvalve> ??
<sysvalve> is that the usual workflow? Sorry, I'm quite new to Ruby and itsecosystem :)
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<toretore> your Gemfile.lock will not let you upgrade the version without explicitly doing so
<sysvalve> so, I don't know how I ended up breaking that
<sysvalve> :?
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<sysvalve> so, either Gemfile, or gemsets, right?
<sysvalve> thanks for the help
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<sysvalve> It's just a lot of blog posts and docs that say that you should use Gemfile *and* create gemsets in rvm for that particular project
<sysvalve> (using .rvmrc or similar to "automate" the switching)
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<sysvalve> so, is that deprecated?
<apeiros> I never used gemsets combined with bundler
<apeiros> don't see a reason to either
<apeiros> we're developing about a dozen apps in parallel with different dependencies
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<sysvalve> apeiros: thanks, that was very helpful
<sysvalve> makes sense
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<workmad3> dminuoso: I could probably poke banisterfiend if you wanted... which article? :)
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<banisterfiend> dminuoso haha someone still reads my blog? i last updated that > 5 years ago
<workmad3> banisterfiend: I still get SO rep points from questions I answered 8 years ago :D
<workmad3> it's weird how long these things hang around...
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<banisterfiend> heh, i went from about 12K to neraly 20K on SO in exactly the same way, i haven't touched it in years :)
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<dminuoso> banisterfiend: Oh yes. :-)
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<dminuoso> banisterfiend: I did not understand the (B) -> ((B)) relationship
<dminuoso> Or there's a few things that don't make sense.
<surrounder> beer emoticon -> beer emoticon
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<fbt> .ц 10
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<moeSizlak> in 2.4.0 json-2.0.2 is a defualt gem
<moeSizlak> i have an app that requires unirest
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<moeSizlak> and unirest requires 'json', '~> 1.8.1'
<moeSizlak> how can i get this app to use the 1.8.x version of json instead of the default?
<banisterfiend> dminuoso it means the class of the singleton class is the singleton of the singleton
<banisterfiend> you can't see that stuff in pure ruby though
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<banisterfiend> you need to use a c extension to understand what's going on
<banisterfiend> cos ruby hides that stuff away using rb_class_real() iirc
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<agent_white> Mornin' folks
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<A124> What would be the best way to force require_relative file that was already loaded?
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<A124> Kernel.load with File.dirname(__FILE__) or something better?
<apeiros> it'd be to not use require_relative
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<apeiros> it's not meant for reloaded codefiles
<apeiros> load "#{__dir__}/relative/path/to/file.rb"
<apeiros> dont' forget the .rb
<A124> Yeah, looked at the source. But for first load it would do gerat.
<apeiros> load does not automatically try suffixes
<A124> Okay, thank you!
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<brodul> What is a tipical ruby package that needs system wide dependecies ?
<brodul> headers or shared objects
<eam> all of them depend on libc
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<brodul> ok, what about libjpeg
<brodul> or similar
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<brodul> what is a common lib to manipolate images
<brodul> ruby-vips ?
<brodul> I am gathering information for a talk
<leah2> rmagick?
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<brodul> that looks like a lib I am searching for tnx leah2
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<havenwood> brodul: There are a few options listed here: https://www.ruby-toolbox.com/categories/image_processing
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<havenwood> brodul: Nokogiri isn't related to images but issues with it's deps on libxml2 and libxslt are notorious and it's interesting to look at how they've handled them.
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<havenwood> Compared to an XML/HTML parser written in Ruby without those deps: https://github.com/YorickPeterse/oga#why-another-htmlxml-parser
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<brodul> havenwood: tnx thats even better. I am preparing a talk on NixOS (GNU Guix is a fork of nix package manager)
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<brodul> and I need some examples, ruby devs can relate to
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<eam> openssl or mysql are the two most problematic system libraries in my experience
<havenwood> brodul: Nogokiri ships with Rails and is very popular. I think it'd make a good example.
<havenwood> Ooh, openssl is another good one in particular!
<eam> yeah libxml2 is also on the short list!
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<brodul> tnx folks, you are awesome
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<mc_fail> hi folks
<havenwood> mc_fail: hi
<mc_fail> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/98f9683ae4281decfd38ce17dc516f39 - why am i getting ?-mix: in regex?
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<mc_fail> is there any way to generate regex from a string?
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<havenwood> mc_fail: The default end delimiter options from each Regexp you're using are preserved and shown that way.
<mc_fail> ok
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<mc_fail> what i'm confuding that this regex matches strings which i don't expect
<havenwood> mc_fail: (m)ultiline (i)nsensitive e(x)tended
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<mc_fail> yeah, i got it
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<havenwood> mix
<havenwood> mc_fail: Have an example of what you're not expecting?
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<mc_fail> yeah, just a sec
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<mc_fail> i don't expect -L to match
<mc_fail> but it matches in minus
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<toretore> it's the *
<mc_fail> so i guess i generated wrong regex
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<r_rios> Hello, all. I want to pass some text to an external command then get it back as a string. How do I do it?
<r_rios> In this case, I want to pass some text to c++filt
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<baweaver> Open3 tends to be the most useful.
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<adam12> 100x yes. Open3 is my favourite for anything semi-advanced.
<baweaver> but most cases backticks work
<baweaver> that post explains what they all do though
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<r_rios> Thanks, I'll take a look into it
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<r_rios> It seems backticks aren't useful in my case, though
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<mas8899> Trying to iterate a query.execute for a prepared statement will print "<SQLite3::ResultSet:0x0055bdd8df8090>" Instead of the actual result. any help?
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<ljarvis> mas8899: that is the result
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<ljarvis> ^
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<baweaver> &ri Enumerable
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<baweaver> notice it includes Enumerable
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<havenwood> and defines #each
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* baweaver considers making a tool to parse gem docs so he can `RandomModule::Thing#method` and get docs
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<mas8899> ljarvis, havenwood : Okay! Noob error, thanks
<mas8899> just iterated again inside the result set.
* baweaver looks at `derpy with a sparkle in his eye and a dark grin
<baweaver> &ri SQLite3::ResultSet
<`derpy> No results
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<tdump> hey when passing an operator to inject/reduce is the ampersand necessary? The code I wrote works either way, but what is the correct/preferred syntax? e.g. arr.reduce(:+) or arr.reduce(&:+)
<tdump> also, am I correct in that if I wanted to apply conditionals to reduce I'd have to make a code block and declare a variable?
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<tdump> like only add even numbers, or is that something that I would use an each loop for? Ruby has a lot of iterators
<Papierkorb> tdump: The ampersand is not "necessary", but that's because #reduce is coded to accept both. The non-ampersand version is told to be a tad faster, so I use it over the block version
<Papierkorb> tdump: I'd #select those values first I'm interested in and then #reduce
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<tdump> Papierkorb Thanks! I'll ommit the ampersand. #select, is that ruby's version of filter?
<Papierkorb> tdump: I think other languages and libraries call it #filter, yes
<tdump> Papierkorb Thanks again bud. That was very helpful.
<Papierkorb> cheers
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<baweaver> Papierkorb: reduce has an older API to it that never changed which is why it accepts just a symbol there.
<baweaver> Holdover from 1.8 and before iirc
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<baweaver> Though I wonder how :+.to_proc works specifically now that I think about it
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<baweaver> says it has an arity of -1 but takes 2 args
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<baweaver> ah, got it
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<cagomez> how do I know which gem version will be installed prior to running `gem install somegem`?
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