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<Yzguy>
hiya
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<Otterfox>
quick q: I notice the ruby-lang docs for URI indicate that I should `require` it prior to use, but it seems to work just fine without a require statement. is it necessary? good practice?
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<apeiros>
it is necessary. if it works without, it just means something else has required it already.
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<apeiros>
but depending on other things pulling in your dependencies is bad practice - hence: still do it yourself
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<Otterfox>
I see, that makes perfect sense, thanks!
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<terens>
Hi
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<terens>
Within a gemspec there is byebug development dependency
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<terens>
how can I require it only on development?
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<apeiros>
terens: a gemspec doesn't perform requires. so unless you (or the lib) requires something in code, it won't be required.
<terens>
Yes the developer has a require 'byebug' which causes issues for me
<apeiros>
file a bug then
<terens>
He doesnt use bundler
<apeiros>
a development dependency must only be used in development tools
<apeiros>
(such as rake tasks etc. intended for developing the gem)
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<terens>
is there a way to require it conditionally?
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<apeiros>
you just said their code contains an explicit require
<apeiros>
so no, there isn't.
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<apeiros>
I mean what point is there in you requiring it conditionally if there's an unconditional require elsewhere anyway?
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<terens>
we are working on the same project so gem code can be changed
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<apeiros>
drop the require then. only require it in development tasks.
<terens>
ok..
<apeiros>
as for "conditional require" - it's ruby. I presume you know how an `if/else/end` works?
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<rakesh_verma>
Hey Community, I am learning Rails and I'm having a few doubts which I am not able to understand from online resources. Can any of you gentleman please help me clearing those doubts?
<rakesh_verma>
Ruby and Rails*
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<ruby[bot]>
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<apeiros>
?rails rakesh_verma
<rakesh_verma>
apeiros: Thanks a lot, Sir.
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<Psy-Q>
when using optparse, it's correct to e.g. destructively .parse! and then just use the rest of ARGV to find arguments that don't need any options (e.g. "foo" in "-d -b -v foo")?
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<apeiros>
Psy-Q: yes
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<Psy-Q>
apeiros: fantastic :D thanks
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<terens>
Any idea about this error ? ruby23: no -r allowed while running setgid (SecurityError)
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<Cat_>
Hello everyone
<kch>
ello Cat
<Cat_>
how goes it
<Cat_>
I'm wondering what other channels are good
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<kch>
depends what you are interested in
<kch>
they have channels for almost every project
<Cat_>
is there a place to get a list?
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<kch>
freenode.net
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<BubonicPestilenc>
./list ?
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<BubonicPestilenc>
that moment... when you're php developer and praying about ruby's "(nearly) everything is object"
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<dminuoso>
BubonicPestilenc: I've pondered about this for a long while and I'm ready to redact my previous statement: Everything in Ruby is an object. The examples of lvars, methods and blocks are too weak to be really considered relevant exceptions.
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<macobo>
What is the most common ruby versions nowadays? Updating a gem I own after 1.5 years and some dep updates restrict ruby versions by quite a bit.
<macobo>
What is considered a solid baseline? 2.2?
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<apeiros>
macobo: difficult to say. among developers probably 2.3
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<apeiros>
installation wise: almost certainly ruby 2.0 since osx ships with that :-/
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<macobo>
apeiros: thanks
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<macobo>
1.9 can be considered dead though?
<apeiros>
yes. 2.0 too.
<apeiros>
and I think 2.1 will be EOL soon too.
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<macobo>
thanks, this was helpful. :)
<apeiros>
oh, 2.1 is EOL since march last year.
<apeiros>
so 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4 are the suggested targets for development
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<macobo>
thanks. :)
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<flujan>
Hello Guys. Which gem do you recommend to create a WebSocket Server in ruby? em-websocket seems nice but it looks abandoned.
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<lacrymology>
sorry, I'm fairly new at Ruby, though not at programming.. what does this mean? Video.where({}).only(:id).map(&:id)
<lacrymology>
oh, wait, I got it now, I think
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<lacrymology>
.where and .only are part of an ORM
<lacrymology>
.map(&:id) I understand
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<apeiros>
lacrymology: so… all questions already answered? :)
<lacrymology>
yes, I think so :)
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<eelster>
What's a safe alternative to eval?
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<apeiros>
without more context: there's none.
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<flujan>
Hello Guys. Which gem do you recommend to create a WebSocket Server in ruby? em-websocket seems nice but it looks abandoned.
<eelster>
apeiros: I'm trying to execute a ruby file within another ruby file.
<apeiros>
then there's indeed none.
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<apeiros>
you can read up on $SAFE_LEVEL, but iirc that's being deprecated.
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<eelster>
I will read up on $SAFE_LEVEL. Thank you. I didn't think there was a safe alternative to eval, but I wanted to check just to be sure.
<apeiros>
flujan: seen your question before, but don't have an answer, sorry.
<apeiros>
eelster: you can use something like eval.in to evaluate remotely. but based on your description, that doesn't seem to be a fit.
<eelster>
apeiros: Local evaluation is necessary.
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<flujan>
apeiros: ok thanks.
<eelster>
Thank you though!
<zerowaitstate>
has anyone here run into issues with memory leaks/bloat with Sequel inside a Sidekiq task runner process with a concurrency > 1?
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<baweaver>
eelster: why are you trying to execute a ruby file within another ruby file?
<baweaver>
will require'ing it not work?
<eelster>
baweaver: I'm creating a literate ruby gem.
<baweaver>
expand on that
<eelster>
So, Knuth has this idea of "Literate Programming" which is practically programming with a lot of writing around it.
<apeiros>
baweaver: there isn't any difference re security between eval and require
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<baweaver>
granted
<eelster>
I already have a version of this that will create a ruby file and a markdown file from my literate ruby file, but I want to be able to create a markdown file from my literate ruby file with the ruby contents executed
<eelster>
So, I need to use eval for that.
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<baweaver>
that'd do it then.
<eelster>
alrighty!
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<apeiros>
eelster: why the security concerns?
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<apeiros>
as I understand, it's the same kind of file that you'd require
<apeiros>
and you don't have security with require either…
<eelster>
apeiros: Not a huge security concern, I just don't want people using my gem to trick others.
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<eelster>
But then again, you can do that easily without my gem
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<eelster>
So I'm just worrying over nothing on the whole haha.
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<ajbogh>
Hello. I'm not sure if this is the right channel but I'm trying to upgrade a Rails 3 app to Rails 4 and I'm having some trouble with teaspoon-jasmine. One particular issue is in the terminal my console.log only allows 1 parameter. My phantomJS is version 2.1.1, but I don't know if it's being used in the tests.
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