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<kht> Any ruby beginners around?
<gray_wolf> here here :)
<kht> what have you done so far that has helped you most grasp the language?
<gray_wolf> hm, probably reading programming ruby 1.9&2.0, I'm half way though and so far it's really good read
<kht> are you involved with any projects?
<Tau> hi.
<kht> hoi
<Tau> i'm a beginnner too.
<Tau> i have started a project on the purpose of learning ruby.
<Tau> i'm going to implement an existing project thats written in python(i'll do it in ruby).
<Tau> i think it is one of the best ways of learning it.
<kht> Tau: are you familiar with python?
<gray_wolf> @kht not really, I'm trying to write library for one website, but still having hard time grasping how ruby actually works
<Tau> i'm.
<Tau> kht, do you?
<kht> Tau: I am a complete beginner to all programming languages
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<Tau> kht i'm going to rewrite it in ruby https://github.com/iogf/vy
<kht> although I am very comfortable in a shell environment having used *nix for most of my life
<Tau> if you feel interested you could join us.
<Tau> kht we hang up at #vy.
<kht> I would love to join but is my lack of knowledge a problem?
<Tau> kht for sure it is not.
<Tau> kht since i have started that new project(vym) in order to learn ruby. heh.
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<gray_wolf> Tau: hm,I'm really curious, what does this bring compared to let's say vim (gvim)?
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<gray_wolf> Tau: expect for the irc client, true, but why would I want irc client in my editor?
<gray_wolf> except*
<Tau> gray_wolf well, python is a high level lang, it permits you to develop plugins very quickly for it.
<Tau> gray_wolf i'm talking with you now from the (vyirc).
<Tau> gray_wolf you surely wouldn't but if you tak e a look at the source code of it you'll notice it is plain short and very well designed. i wrote that on the purpose of demonstrating vy's plugin interface power.
<gray_wolf> you can script vim in python too
<Tau> the irc client plugin is sort of a "rationale".
<gray_wolf> but I must admit that source-code wise vim is a mess :D
<Tau> gray_wolf yes. but the plugins usually get horribly written and hard to debug.
<Tau> and it doesnt give you a lot of other features like asynchronous stuff etc.
<Tau> gray vy in ruby is going to be really great.
<gray_wolf> "on top of tkinter", so no console version I take it?
<Tau> because ruby is a better language for this project since commands doesnt demand you to use ().
<Tau> gray_wolf it can run on console with a lib named Ctk.
<Tau> it is a symmetrical lib to 'tkinter' it is tcl.
<gray_wolf> Tau: you fyi vim 8.0 brought async support
<Tau> i'm planning to get that working with it.
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<Tau> gray_wolf i wasn't aware of that, but it is yet hard to use i guess.
<Tau> at least harder than it is for vy.
<Tau> gray_wolf this video is old, it shows some of vy features. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bBKOFdQKzo
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<Tau> i have to be off now.
<Tau> see you.
<gray_wolf> see ya'
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<gray_wolf> hm, why is there no Kernel#epoll anyway?
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<ruby-lang252> wouldn't it confusing to learn java script and applying in rails
<ruby-lang252> since java script syntax got semicolon, etc?
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<ruby-lang252> ?
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<eam> what
<eam> is this reefer madness
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<ruby-lang252> wouldn't it confusing to learn java script and applying in rails
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<eelster> >> puts Thread.new{}
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<ruby[bot]> eelster: # => (https://eval.in/716374)
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<ruby_noob> hey, im newer to ruby/programming. any have any suggestions on books/resources that really helped their understanding of it?
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<ruby-lang252> ruby_noob
<ruby-lang252> begining ruby by peter kooper
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<agent_white> Evenin' folks
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<tachyons> Is there any easy way to do asyncrounous readline like in node , https://nodejs.org/api/readline.html
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<baweaver> !spam BRS-Ryan
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<ruby-lang894> guys when you learn javascript and rails
<ruby-lang894> wouldn't it be confusing coz java script has semi colons etc?
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<rjungemann> Short answer, not really. Maybe at first
<rjungemann> The brain is pretty good at working within different contexts. You might even find yourself thinking in different ways when working in different languages. It's similar to thinking in terms of the user experience versus thinking in code, or thinking at the API level vs. the domain model level.
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<baweaver> they've been offline for about an hour.
<rjungemann> Oops
<baweaver> not a problem
<baweaver> just don't want you to get too into it :P
<rjungemann> Just something I've been thinking about a lot. Not different languages, but "wearing different hats" as it were
<baweaver> cheap solution is to use different themes for different languages
<baweaver> because I switch between several languages routinely
<baweaver> Ruby, Python, Javascript, Scala, Java, etc. Different color themes can help instantly trigger it where syntax might not.
<baweaver> though I avoid Java like a plague.
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<voobscout> does anybody know how to make this work? "IO.binwrite([29, 49, 75, 2, 0, 49].map(&:chr).join, '/tmp/test.txt')"
<voobscout> always complains "ArgumentError: string contains null byte"
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<voobscout> try it at your own repl
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<voobscout> better yet, why does this not work IO.write(0.chr, '/tmp/file') ?
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<ddffg> first arg is name of file
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<DaniG2k> hello all
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<al2o3-cr> >> [33.33].pack('G').unpack('B*')[0]
<ruby[bot]> al2o3-cr: # => "0100000001000000101010100011110101110000101000111101011100001010" (https://eval.in/716559)
<al2o3-cr> >> [33.33].pack('G').unpack1('B*')[0]
<ruby[bot]> al2o3-cr: # => undefined method `unpack1' for "@@\xAA=p\xA3\xD7\n":String ...check link for more (https://eval.in/716560)
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<al2o3-cr> well, anyway. why does unpack1 give random junk from memory?
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<al2o3-cr> shouldn't it just give 01000000010000.... as the first unpack result
<al2o3-cr> *unpacked
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<al2o3-cr> or does it just not work with string directives
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<al2o3-cr> just {bit,hex} string apparently
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<porfa> so i have this “if mel.css('.product-description-title').length >= 1 \n puts “lol” else puts “not-lol” end
<porfa> and it’s not working. damn im making gist, sorry bout that
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<porfa> because, if titulo doesn’t meet the requirements (being greater than 1) i dont want the program to continue, i want it to puts something and then process the next value in the mel array.
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<anonice> I've never used Ruby before and I found a script to export my saved Facebook links (I'm getting off FB) so that I can parse them how I want. Could someone aid me in using this script?https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-export-all-my-Facebook-saved-read-it-later-links
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<anonice> anyone here?
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<al2o3-cr> anonice: it's just very quiet today, if someone knows they'll probably answer
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<eelster> is there a way to distinguish structs from classes once structs have been made?
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<al2o3-cr> eelster: foo.is_a? Struct
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<lacrymology> I'm trying to find this syntax, and I can't figure out
<lacrymology> sorry
<lacrymology> I'm trying to understand this code, and I can't find what this syntax means http://dpaste.com/3FXRY47
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<eelster> al2o3-cr: That returns false
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<al2o3-cr> eelster: have you initialized the struct?
<eelster> Sorry, I meant how can I tell if `Foo` is a struct, not an instance of `Foo`?
<al2o3-cr> ah, k
<eelster> I guess I could trivially do `Foo.new.is_a? Struct`
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<al2o3-cr> eelster: `Foo < Struct` then
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<eelster> That works as well. Structs are so interseting in Ruby.
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<porfa> hello e
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<lacrymology> (repost) I'm trying to understand this code, and I can't find what this syntax means http://dpaste.com/3FXRY47
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<lacrymology> I guess it's "append to list"?
<eelster> The <<?
<eelster> That's the shovel
<eelster> It appends to a list
<lacrymology> seriously. "the shovel"?
<lacrymology> that's cute
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<lacrymology> thank you
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<lacrymology> strings aren't immutable?
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<havenwood> lacrymology: Strings aren't frozen by default at this point. Many libraries enable immutable strings by freezing as default with: # frozen-string-literal: true
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<iamthemuffinman> Hey guys
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<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: hi muffin
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<iamthemuffinman> I've got an issue I can't quite sort out (Ruby noob)
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<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: What seems to be the problem?
<iamthemuffinman> I'm trying to to use the infoblox gem and I keep getting this error: "`block in execute': #<MyProject::Infoblox:0x007fcc76dc1cf8 @connection=#<Infoblox::Connection:70258072096320 @host="https://aserverforyou">> is not a class/module (TypeError)"
<iamthemuffinman> I can use it in irb just fine though.
<iamthemuffinman> So It's gotta be how I'm trying to use it.
<iamthemuffinman> in my code
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<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: Have a link to a gist of your code?
<iamthemuffinman> havenwood: Sure. One sec.
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<iamthemuffinman> havenwood: That's where I get the error "is not a class/module (TypeError)"
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<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: I don't know this gem, but `infoblox.class::Arecord` would be a thing (since the Arecord class is namespaced under the Infoblox module like Infoblox::Arecord).
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<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: Glancing at this it's not clear what you're trying to do. But you're not going to have any luck looking up a constant on an instance of the class the constant is defined on.
<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: Consider the following:
<havenwood> >> require 'date'; Date.today::DAYNAMES
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<ruby[bot]> havenwood: # => #<Date: 2017-01-15 ((2457769j,0s,0n),+0s,2299161j)> is not a class/module (TypeError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/716656)
<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: ^ you get that error trying to find the constant on an instance while both the straightforward `Date::DAYNAMES` or `Date.today.class::DAYNAMES` work.
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<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: Does that makes any sense?
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<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: TL;DR: Appending `::CONST_HERE` only works on classes or modules themselves (like `CamelCase`) not on instances of classes (like `#<CamelCase:...>`).
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<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: Try it yourself in pry or irb: class Muffin; SEKRET = 42 end; Muffin.new::SEKRET
<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: Or the same for: class Muffin; module Man end end; Muffin.new::Man
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<iamthemuffinman> @havenwood: It doesn't make a whole lot of sense, no.
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<iamthemuffinman> >> require 'date'; Date::Days.today
<iamthemuffinman> ^ That looks more like what I'm trying to do.
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<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: If you can't get at the constant you're trying to lookup you can't go on to call any methods on it.
<havenwood> >> class Muffin; module Man end end; Muffin::Man # iamthemuffinman note this works
<ruby[bot]> havenwood: # => Muffin::Man (https://eval.in/716657)
<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: But does this work?: class Muffin; module Man end end; Muffin.new::Man
<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: Does the error look familiar?
<havenwood> iamthemuffinman: Does it work with?: Muffin.new.class::Man
<iamthemuffinman> :q
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<havenwood> \o
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<iamthemuffinman> havenwood: Sorry, irssi is terrible.
<iamthemuffinman> had to use the web client
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<iamthemuffinman> havenwood: I get the same error as before.
<iamthemuffinman> havenwood: I guess I'm not understanding why the problem exists. Let me put this in a different way that's more pertained to the language than what I'm actually trying to do.
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<porfa> im having this issue with a loop, is anyone around to help me out? :( i can’t seem to get it to work, it’s my sintax
<porfa> if wtv.css('.price').length >=1
<porfa> price = wtv.css(‘.price’).text else. price “no price” end
<porfa> what other ways can i use to check if element is there?
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<toretore> porfa: gist the entire file
<toretore> ?gist porfa
<ruby[bot]> porfa: https://gist.github.com - Multiple files, syntax highlighting, even automatically with matching filenames, can be edited
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<havenwood> porfa: Maybe something like?: price_classes = wtv.css '.price'; price = price_classes.text if price_classes.any?
<havenwood> porfa: or: !price_classes.empty?
<havenwood> porfa: but yeah, to give good advice we'd need more code
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