drbrain changed the topic of #rubygems to: RubyGems 2.1.9: http://bit.ly/rubygems-2-1-9 CVE-2013-4363: http://bit.ly/CVE-2013-4363 - Latest status: http://twitter.com/rubygems_status and http://status.rubygems.org
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<mpapis> drbrain, you made me curious !
<drbrain> mpapis: one second, I will push
<drbrain> well, couple minutes
<mpapis> sue
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<brianwong> im getting intermitten SSL certificate verification errors
<brianwong> from one of my servers when trying to run 'bundle install'
<brianwong> but 'openssl s_client -connect rubygems.org:443' always returns "Verified"
<brianwong> anyone else having trouble?
<brianwong> thanks for the link
<brianwong> but like i said
<brianwong> im running the openssl command to verify
<brianwong> so it isnt a problem with my local store
<brianwong> not only that
<mpapis> brianwong, are you sure your ruby uses that openssl ?
<brianwong> not only that, the error appears randomly as it traverses the Gemfile
<mpapis> brianwong, do you know you can link program to use something else then the thing in $PATH?
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<mpapis> brianwong, is: ruby -ropenssl -e 'puts OpenSSL::X509::DEFAULT_CERT_FILE'
<drbrain> brianwong: also, what is the exact error?
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<drbrain> mpapis: I'm improving RubyGems' Gemfile support
<drbrain> but I don't know what order bundler uses for "group"
<mpapis> pointing to: openssl version -d ?
<drbrain> mpapis: so, prefer :group over :groups over block group
<brianwong> sorry for the lack of wrap
<drbrain> but maybe it should be a union?
<drbrain> indirect: can tell me
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<drbrain> brianwong: can you run with RUBYOPT=-d to see the OpenSSL exception raised?
<drbrain> openssl swallows the underlying error so it can report an SSLError when the connection is closed, for example
<mpapis> drbrain, it's bundler groups - development, assets, production
<mpapis> so you could have groups on many levels like: bundle instal --without=deelopment --- gem 'rake', :group => :assets
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<mpapis> brianwong, what system is this and did you update it first?
<brianwong> this is an amazon ec2 system
<brianwong> amazon linux
<drbrain> mpapis: what groups is gem 'z' in?
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<brianwong> i ran the bundle install again and it finished
<brianwong> it was strange
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<brianwong> i didnt change anything
<drbrain> brianwong: probably a network issue between you and rubygems.org/S3
<drbrain> s/you/your server/
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<brianwong> but a few times before the bundle install kept failing with that ssl error
<mpapis> drbrain, ah, raise! in case you find group and groups (joking)
<brianwong> ok
<brianwong> thanks for your help guys
<drbrain> brianwong: OpenSSL can raise an exception indicating MITM when the connection hung up :/
<imperator> does bundle install have a verbose option?
<mpapis> there should be one
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<markoa> hi guys, I'm Marko from semaphoreapp.com. Trying to figure out what has changed recently about SSL certificate verification. Does anybody know something about that?
<markoa> thanks mpapis... so far we've found that upgrading rubygems to the latest version is alone not enough
<mpapis> markoa, there are few errors, so yo you might have something else yet .. what is the full error?
<mpapis> hmm, this one is new, are you sure your certificates are up to date?
<markoa> not sure really what's up to date in that area :) our platform is based on ubuntu 12.04
<markoa> one user also reported a Bundler::Fetcher::CertificateFailureError: Could not verify the SSL certificate for https://rubygems.org/. after rubygems upgrade
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<markoa> currently checking how to update the certificates
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<indirect> drbrain: I'm around now
<indirect> groups are unions
<indirect> there's no precedence
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<qrush> whats going on with the ssl issues?
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<mpapis> qrush, https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems/issues/688 - there was a bug that prevented update
<qrush> hmm thats not the issue i see most people on twitter having
<qrush> main issue is installing gems gives ssl cert validation errors
<qrush> does not look related
<mpapis> the same as the question on SO - I just linked to my answer
<jnimety> qrush I've been having this issue intermittently for a little over a week
<qrush> an rvm-only answer is not the solution here
<qrush> there's something fucked server side
<mpapis> qrush, there are points for non rvm
<qrush> hmm
<mpapis> I think it would be also good to add note to update rubygems on ssl errors
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<shaiguitar> qrush: any progress on getting a production dump? some people are waiting on putting urbygem graphs on the web but I would rather first figure out the data inconsistincies...
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<qrush> shaiguitar: sorry i can't help tonight
<qrush> your best bet is finding one of the actual ops folks who can help
<qrush> i am barely a sysadmin :(
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