drbrain changed the topic of #rubygems to: RubyGems 2.1.9: http://bit.ly/rubygems-2-1-9 CVE-2013-4363: http://bit.ly/CVE-2013-4363 - Latest status: http://twitter.com/rubygems_status and http://status.rubygems.org
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<drbrain> jkline: 2.1.10 is out, waiting for the blog post to show up to announce
<drbrain> (and 2.0.13
<jkline> thanks!
<jkline> i have installed it
<drbrain> hrm, I guess the blog did not post
<drbrain> now it's half posted
<drbrain> 404 for the announcement
<drbrain> ooh, bus time
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drbrain changed the topic of #rubygems to: RubyGems 2.1.10: http://bit.ly/rubygems-2-1-10 CVE-2013-4363: http://bit.ly/CVE-2013-4363 - Latest status: http://twitter.com/rubygems_status and http://status.rubygems.org
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<knappe> Hey all. Anyone on that understands how rubygems.org is parsing gem spec files?
<knappe> I see a Pusher#pull_spec method.
<knappe> This returns a Gem::Specification object, but would appear to lack a lot of the data I would have thought it would have included.
<knappe> When digesting the bundler 1.3.5 gemspec file, I see => #<Gem::Specification name=bundler version=1.3.5>
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<meh`> why was my "retarded" gem removed?
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<mpapis> meh`, gem names policies?
<meh`> mpapis, I don't see how a gem that retards object instantiation could go against any name policy, that word has a meaning, and it's to slow or delay something, retard something
<mpapis> meh`, google: less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age.
<meh`> mpapis, Cambridge dictionary: to make something slower
<mpapis> meh`, words have multiple meanings, I did not found your definition at first place
<mpapis> meh`, http://www.thefreedictionary.com/retarded => 1. Often Offensive Affected with mental retardation.
<meh`> >often
<meh`> I don't see how misintepreting a word would ensure a removal
<mpapis> meh`, I guess you should find a name that does not offend often
<meh`> if words have multiple meaning, interpret it by context
<meh`> which is what should be done, and the context is to retard something
<mpapis> meh`, I was not the one that removed it, only know of that rule
<dwradcliffe> "interpret it by context" is not the policy, sorry
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<meh`> dwradcliffe, now that's retarded :)
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<meh`> where is this policy anyway? I can't find
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<mpapis> http://guides.rubygems.org/name-your-gem/ => If you publish a gem on rubygems.org it may be removed if the name is objectionable, violates intellectual property or the contents of the gem meet these criteria. You can report such a gem at http://help.rubygems.org.
<mpapis> meh`, ^
<meh`> that doesn't tell much about the policy itself, what is "objectionable"?
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<mpapis> like your gem name had multiple context, and the more popular one was offensive
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<meh`> to whom?
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<meh`> anything can be bended to be offensive if you take things out of context
<mpapis> meh`, please google there was some traffic on web some time agoo
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<meh`> I found out because of a backwards blog post, that was including "therapist" and "hoe" in some kind of offensive naming, when those are normal words that nobody would find offensive
<meh`> why would be offended by a farming tool?
<meh`> and "retarded" too, when the term has a meaning of its own outside of how people call other people names
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<mpapis> meh`, I'm not native speaker would need to do some research before explaining to you how this words can be used in offensive context, but usually urbandictionary is enough
<meh`> it also included "bitch", which I saw was removed
<meh`> when bitch just means a female canine
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<mpapis> meh`, are you searching reasons to talk? even I know `bitch` is used offensive only
<meh`> if you start taking words out of context, I'm sure I could find hundreds of infringing names using this backwards logic, when in context it doesn't mean anything offensive
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<meh`> mpapis, it isn't, you call a female dog a bitch, the fact it's also used to refer to human females in a derogatory way doesn't make the word in itself offensive
<meh`> and if you take a word out of context, the literal sense should be followed, not a random usage outside of its real meaning
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<mpapis> meh`, which one do you hear more often?
<meh`> mpapis, the former since I volunteer in a dog pound
<mpapis> meh`, so there is a world outside and there are bad people who use this words in really wrong situations, for example read this http://godlessfeminist.wordpress.com/2013/05/30/why-is-mtv-protecting-a-human-trafficker-and-why-are-anti-trafficking-activists-silencing-survivors/ it shows how your good words are used for bad
<meh`> mpapis, that doesn't make the words bad, people decontextualizing words and using them as metaphors doesn't change the meaning of the word
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<mpapis> meh`, I care what others think, and rubygems maintainers also care, if you think this words are used wrongly please fight the bad usage first if you think that are the only words that can describe what you need a gem, if not just find a word that will not offend others
<meh`> mpapis, finding words that offend no one is impossible, any person could get offended by some kind of word
<mpapis> and you did not read the post I have linked, if you are not interested in understanding at least a bit (if you do not want to commit your time) please stop wasting everybodys else time
<meh`> mpapis, if anything I'm wasting yours and mine, guess there's nothing to do to stop this social justice retardation, it's going to destroy everything, have fun with that
<meh`> also yeah, I don't care about reading bullshit
<meh`> ja ne~
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<mpapis> was I impolite?
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<drbrain> knappe: the inspect output is abbreviated by default, try pp or run your ruby with -d
<knappe> @drbrain: Yeah, I was able to solve that part.
<knappe> However, I was looking to see how the specs were digested by the system to build dependencies ect.
<knappe> I've not solved that.
<drbrain> knappe: since it's on rubygems.org, I'm not the right person to ask ☹
<drbrain> evan or dwradcliffe might know
<drbrain> or they can recommend someone who can answer your questions
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<knappe> I appreciate the reply. I'll ping them.
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