#rubygems on 2013-10-30 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2013-10-25 02:39 drbrain changed the topic of #rubygems to: RubyGems 2.1.10: http://bit.ly/rubygems-2-1-10 CVE-2013-4363: http://bit.ly/CVE-2013-4363 - Latest status: http://twitter.com/rubygems_status and http://status.rubygems.org

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02:58 <drbrain> indirect: https://github.com/bundler/bundler/blob/master/lib/bundler/current_ruby.rb#L26-L28

02:58 <drbrain> I do not understand

02:59 <drbrain> indirect: in fact, I think this is horribly broken

03:02 <drbrain> #rbx? calls #ruby?, so rubinius on windows doesn't match rbx?

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04:47 <imperator> drbrain, strange line

04:54 <drbrain> imperator: and, no unit tests ☹ ☹ ☹

04:56 <imperator> ouch

04:57 <imperator> i'm not even sure what that code is supposed to do

04:58 <imperator> oh, looks like he has a separate method for jruby and mingw

04:59 <drbrain> it implements http://bundler.io/v1.3/man/gemfile.5.html#PLATFORMS-platforms-

04:59 <drbrain> but a bundler "platform" consists of the ruby engine, the ruby version and the rubygems platform

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05:03 <imperator> does rubinius work on windows yet?

05:03 <drbrain> I don't know, but I can't see why it wouldn't work under mingw

05:04 <drbrain> the "not windows" checks in the bundler platform support seem arbitrary

05:05 <brixen> I've built rbx under mingw-w64 but it does not run

05:05 <brixen> it's possible rbx will only support the llvm toolchain in the future

05:05 <brixen> but checks for rbx shouldn't assume it won't be supported on windows

05:09 <drbrain> the bundler platforms combine four things: ruby engine, ruby version, rubygems platform, running on windows

05:09 <drbrain> this makes the documentation inadequate and leads to bizarre statements like "rubinius is not a rubinius on windows"

05:10 <brixen> seems bad

05:10 <drbrain> yeah

05:10 <drbrain> I'm implementing it as-is for now, but the four-in-one platform should be split up to specifying on the thing you care about

05:11 <drbrain> gem 'foo', engine: 'rbx'

05:11 <drbrain> gem 'bar', ruby_version: '~> 2.0.0'

05:11 <drbrain> etc.

05:13 <drbrain> I can understand the motivation behind "ruby is not windows" but not "mri is not windows"

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05:25 <drbrain> I created a bundler issue: https://github.com/bundler/bundler/issues/2691

05:29 <imperator> hm, and what if it's "universal-mingw"?

05:30 <imperator> oh, i guess that != x64

05:33 <drbrain> I think whoever wrote this didn't learn about Gem::Platform#=~/#match/#===

05:33 <imperator> looks that way to me

05:33 <drbrain> but it's also only testing against Gem::Platform.local, which probably won't have "universal" on mswin/mingw

05:34 <drbrain> AFAIK, only apple rubies have "universal" in the CPU architecture

05:34 <imperator> i explicitly set some of mine for my windows gems

05:35 <drbrain> yeah, for gems it makes sense

05:35 <drbrain> you want the gem's platform to be as liberal as possible

05:35 <imperator> actually....i was thinking "universal" should be the default

05:35 <imperator> how many gems actually depend on cpu architecture?

05:36 <drbrain> you can't link x86_64 and x86 code, so probably any with a shared object

05:36 <imperator> precompiled binaries then

05:36 <drbrain> yeah

05:37 <imperator> i think only windows gem authors do that

05:37 <drbrain> there are a few for darwin

05:37 <imperator> the one i have i ship both binaries, and use a stub to require the right one

05:37 <drbrain> and https://rubygems.org/gems/libv8

05:37 <imperator> oh

05:37 <drbrain> you're an advanced user :D

05:37 <imperator> :)

05:38 <drbrain> you've read what little documentation I've written :D

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06:35 <drbrain> green tests again, woo!

06:35 <drbrain> and Gemfile support for (as best I can tell) all but git: and github: options!

06:45 <mpapis> drbrain, hooray!

06:45 <drbrain> mpapis: also, a feature request against bundler for separating its confusing platforms into understandable components

06:46 <mpapis> that would be nice, I have seen the above discussion ... at least parts of it

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09:47 <ddv> how do I refer to a gem on github in my gemspec? e.g. gem "resque", "~> 2.0.0.pre.1", github: "resque/resque"

09:48 <tbuehlmann> ddv, you can't in your gemspec. that's only possible in a Gemfile using bundler

09:48 <ddv> tbuehlmann: My Gemfile refers to my gemspec...

09:48 <tbuehlmann> right

09:49 <tbuehlmann> doesn't change the statement :)

09:49 <ddv> should I just put in my Gemfile then?

09:49 <ddv> +it

09:49 <tbuehlmann> if you need the gem from github, yes

10:03 <ddv> tbuehlmann: I did add it to the Gemfile, now require says cannot load such file

10:03 <ddv> when I try to require 'reque'

10:04 <ddv> resque*

10:04 <tbuehlmann> have some code to review?

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10:07 <ddv> tbuehlmann: just a require statemtn

10:07 <ddv> inside lib/gemname/gemname.rb

10:08 <tbuehlmann> well, yeah, if you use bundler, you need to use require 'bundler/setup' before or Bundler.require. also, note that you will have a dependency on bundler then

10:09 <ddv> I assumed bundler would take care of it when I did bundle gem my_gem

10:11 <ddv> tbuehlmann: it works apparantly, thanks

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15:32 <lmarburger> whoa! this is really weird. http://cl.ly/image/3e0Q220p3q2E

15:33 <lmarburger> big spike in 404s from something seemingly crawling every ruby gem. all the 404s were .gemspec.rz.{md5,sha1}

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15:51 <tmacedo> green

15:52 <tmacedo> oops, wrong window :/ sorry

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16:20 <knappe> lmarburger, people have been reporting spam recently.

16:20 <knappe> That could be someone trolling for email addresses.

16:21 <knappe> I have a pull request to combat that https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems.org/pull/601.

16:21 <knappe> Been open for 2 months...

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16:23 <imperator> i'd vote they should always be hidden

16:23 <imperator> if you need to contact the author, it could be done via github, or users can dig it out of the gemspec

16:24 <knappe> You can still pull it from the API.

16:24 <knappe> But yes, the gemspec should have that data.

16:24 <knappe> Of course, we need people to include a gemspec. =/

16:26 <imperator> IMHO, there's (almost) no reason to ever contact an author directly

16:28 <knappe> Well, we could default to hiding email.

16:32 <lmarburger> knappe and @imperator: these were requests for the gemspecs

16:32 <knappe> Huh.

16:33 <lmarburger> this system only receives requests for a few well known endpoints: https://github.com/bundler/bundler-api/blob/master/lib/bundler_api/web.rb#L136-L158

16:33 <lmarburger> so it wasn't like a bot scanning rubygems.org/gems/hitimes for emails

16:33 <lmarburger> or profiles

16:34 <lmarburger> so i don't believe #601 applies in this case

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16:37 <knappe> Fair enough.

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