00:23 <JacobWeisz[m]> Test?

00:24 <JacobWeisz[m]> omg it works

01:08 <isd> Huzzah!

01:42 <isd> I made a room alias on matrix, so you can join this channel as #sandstorm:matrix.org, rather than #freenode_#sandstorm:matrix.org

01:46 <JacobWeisz[m]> Oooh

01:46 <JacobWeisz[m]> Does this make things better somehow in particular?

01:47 <JacobWeisz[m]> Or just a shortcut? You spoke of some increased level of bridging on the call.

01:47 <isd> Well for one, I always forget if it's supposed to be #freenode_#channel or #channel_#freenode, so there's that.

01:47 <isd> I'm still figuring out the details.

01:47 <isd> But room aliases in matrix are just that -- aliases

01:47 <isd> rooms dont "live" anywhere -- they get replicated to every server that has a user subscribed to it

01:47 <isd> and they don't have to have human readable names.

01:48 <isd> So I just made an alias for the existing matrix room, which is bridged to the IRC channel

01:48 <isd> I also just made a matrix "community" as +sandstorm:matrix.org

20:15 <JacobWeisz[m]> Can I join that community? If so I can't figure out how.

20:20 <isd> I thought I set it to allow anyone to join.

20:21 <JacobWeisz[m]> It could also be a UI issue. I can't even find where I would join.

20:21 <isd> Have confirmed the permissions are set the way I thought.

20:22 <isd> I'm not really sure if communities do anything but group channels

20:22 <isd> So maybe not super important given that we only have one so far.

20:22 <JacobWeisz[m]> It looks like Riot plastered their trashy Material Design UI on the iPhone too, so heck knows where anything is.

20:22 <JacobWeisz[m]> I just wanna be a part of the club. :'(

20:23 <isd> Yeah, I think they're just using the same frontend code on every platform.

20:23 <isd> see also: electron

20:23 <isd> I started using RiotX on android, which seems to be a bit better on battery.

20:25 <JacobWeisz[m]> I'm mildly traumatized by Material on an iPhone. I thought I escaped this.

20:26 <isd> There are a couple other clients, you could try one of those: https://matrix.org/clients

20:26 <isd> no idea if any of the others are any good.

20:52 <ill_logic> Jacob Weisz: I think I only noticed the community join thing the other day, at least in Desktop. It's the very left.

20:56 <isd> kentonv: is the format accepted by kj's parseAddress documented anywhere? the comments say it's unspecified from an API perspective, but if I want users to be able to actually supply an address...

20:57 <ill_logic> Just kidding, that just lets me look at my currently joined ones or create new ones. I don't see where to find other existing ones to join.

20:57 <ill_logic> Man.

20:57 <ill_logic> I guess I shouldn't take for granted the resources for UI considerations that normal companies have.

20:57 <isd> I've been able to surmise some accepted forms from examples, and I suppose I could just go read the source for the function, but it seems like a good thing to have documented somewhere...

20:58 <kentonv> isd, I think the supported formats are ipv4 address with optional port, ipv6 address with optional port (need to surround the address part in [] brackets when providing a port), and unix:<path>

20:59 <isd> cool, thanks.

20:59 <isd> No hostnames?

20:59 <kentonv> oh yeah it supports hostnames in place of addresses

20:59 <isd> makes sense.

20:59 <kentonv> also supports "*" to mean wildcard (0.0.0.0 / ::)

20:59 <kentonv> (for a bind address)

21:21 <ill_logic> Ah, so you just click on +sandstorm:matrix.org and it lets you join. And from what I can tell, a "community" is just a filter on rooms. Which is reasonably useful.

21:33 <JacobWeisz[m]> Doesn't let me join from that page. I'll take a look on a desktop I guess.