13:36 <abhir00p> Hi I was reading the stellar paper

13:36 <abhir00p> I am trying to understand the notion of time in stellar

13:37 <abhir00p> Are you using virtual clocks?

13:38 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> virtual clocks? I do know that they have a test mode that can speed time. but my guess is they all sync to net time not sure

13:41 <abhir00p> https://github.com/stellar/stellar-core/blob/master/src/util/Timer.h

13:41 <abhir00p> the class is called Virtual clock

13:41 <abhir00p> i want to know how do they order events

13:42 <abhir00p> most distributed systems use net time as a median

13:42 <abhir00p> but i am concerned with the ordering of events

13:51 <abhir00p> ?

13:52 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> I have a question about the transaction stream. Is there any reason that the memo data and time stamp of the transaction couldn't be included in the data object in stellar-sdk?

14:02 <stellar-slack> <jed> Abhir00p once transactions make it into the transaction set they are applied in hash order

14:07 <stellar-slack> <jed> https://www.stellar.org/developers/learn/concepts/transactions.html

14:08 <stellar-slack> <jed> sacarlson what do you mean?

14:24 <stellar-slack> <dzham> those are in the transaction, you’re subscribing to the payments stream

14:24 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> yes so where is the memo data?

14:27 <stellar-slack> <dzham> what’s your endpoint? `server.transactions().forAccount(address).cursor('now').stream(....);`?

14:27 <stellar-slack> <dzham> looks like server.payments(). …. from your images

14:28 <stellar-slack> <dzham> so you need to follow the link provided in the payment object

14:29 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> yes

14:30 <stellar-slack> <dzham> yeah, so then it’s not a transaction object you’re getting back

14:30 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> oh let me try transactions instead

14:38 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> nope not seeing there eather but I might have missed it

14:46 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> why not just include it?

14:46 <stellar-slack> <dzham> how about just subscribing to transactions directly, and skipping them if they’re not payments?

14:46 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> like I said I see no memo in that stream

14:46 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> or it's hiden

14:47 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> I guess this works fine if your only doing one at a time but when batch in async they don't line up

15:30 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> I'm having the same problem I had in my gataway payment stream but there I sync them in the mysql database. I'm not sure how to sync this in a browser

15:31 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> due to the time lag it take to recover the txn memo and time stamp the other data is already printed before it

15:31 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> I hate this async stuf

16:21 <stellar-slack> <jed> sacarlson: yeah you have to look up the memo when you get the payment notification but memo is going to be added there at some point: https://github.com/stellar/horizon/issues/230

16:22 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> oh that's good to hear @jed. I hope the timestamp is also included

16:22 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> I don't think I need anything else in the stream

16:24 <stellar-slack> <jed> why do you need the timestamp?

16:25 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> so we know when the transaction happened. I added it to your issues 230 in comments

16:26 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> when you look at your bank book don't you normally also see the date and time of the transaction?

21:15 <stellar-slack> <jacereda> am I the only one experiencing a ' REQUIRE( timerFired == 8 )' failure in util/TimerTests?