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jkiv >
Anyone have any success with the ice40 ultralite plus series and icestorm?
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ZipCPU|Laptop >
jkiv: Ask daveshah about it (when he's up, or ask now and wait). If I understand correctly, he's been working with them.
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sorear >
i don't own any parts and have never tried either way, but my understanding is that icestorm supports ice40 and UltraPlus LP and HX families
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sorear >
UltraLite is a different group of products and support would need to be added
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jkiv >
sorear, sorry I might be confusing my product lines
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jkiv >
yeah, I've been playing around with the HX, but am started to be interested in the UltraPlus.
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awygle >
ice40up5k is definitely supported, almost completely
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jkiv >
awygle, awesome, do you know if that includes the DSP? D:
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awygle >
jkiv: yes, but not... dsp chaining, iirc. let me check.
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jkiv >
dang, looking for 64-bit mult
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jkiv >
haha, i've said too much
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ZipCPU|Laptop >
I think you can get DSP support if you instantiate it directly, rather than inferring it.
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awygle >
DSP cascading
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awygle >
with "accumci and signextin"
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awygle >
is what's not supported
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jkiv >
awesome, thanks
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awygle >
anyone know if yosys supports "unique case"?
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promach_ >
how would you guys compare yosys capability to UVM ?
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philtor >
Got my BlackIceII board yesterday. Lights are blinking. Thanks Yosys developers.
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thoughtpolice >
awygle: don't think so. I think the only real SV features Yosys supports might be the properties (assert/assume/cover etc)?
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thoughtpolice >
I'd like enums, on that note.
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awygle >
thoughtpolice: well it has the "unique" keywod in the lexer :P that's as much investigation as i did
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awygle >
i know it supports e.g. "logic" as a data type
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awygle >
seems like the easy SV features are getting thrown in as useful but the complicated ones aren't (which is obviously sensible)
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Doesn't support the "implies" operator sadly
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thoughtpolice >
I noticed that one a while back, myself.
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awygle >
I wish I could name properties. Clifford has said several times he doesn't like sv properties but I would much prefer to be able to write at an appropriate level of abstraction :-/
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awygle >
Block comments will have to do for now.
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thoughtpolice >
Speaking of properties I was reading up about LTL yesterday and found this neat online converter from LTL to automata:
https://spot.lrde.epita.fr/trans.html -- neat to think about certain safety conditions like liveness as an automata.
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thoughtpolice >
Has anyone here used yosys's liveness support?
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awygle >
thoughtpolice: I've used "cover", which is sort of liveness-like, but not the actual "live" mode
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awygle >
The docs say something about "only works on AIGER - based flow" and that scared me :-P
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