04:10 <rqou> ping felix_, balrog: I haven't heard anything further about the CCC ticket preorder thing. what's the status?

05:22 <rvense> waiting for my payment to clear

07:49 <felix_> rqou: iirc i wrote you about the procedure in a query. https://tickets.events.ccc.de/content/faq_en.html#get-voucher is the general procedure

14:14 <cr1901_modern> azonenberg: Well using FT245 is out of the question. *Somehow* there is a minimum SPI clk frequency requirement of 1 MHz, and 1 MHz the max bandwidth of the chip.

14:14 <balrog> cr1901_modern: ft232h?

14:15 <balrog> I feel like that one should have higher bandwidth

14:15 <cr1901_modern> balrog: Hmmm, it's possibly doable. I'm thinking.

14:16 <balrog> (they basically merged the ft245 features into the ft232rl and improved it overall)

14:39 <azonenberg> cr1901_modern: 245H?

14:40 <azonenberg> the 245 is a usb 1.1 chip

14:40 <azonenberg> or is it 1.0?

14:40 <azonenberg> the H series are 2.0

14:40 <azonenberg> They cant saturate 2.0 at 480 Mbps, but they can go >12 Mbps

14:43 <cr1901_modern> azonenberg: No such thing as 245H

14:44 <cr1901_modern> In any case, pending a response from Lattice, I may just upgrade to FT232H

14:44 <cr1901_modern> https://twitter.com/cr1901/status/778236674094399489

14:44 <balrog> cr1901_modern: did Lattice suggest an ft245?

14:44 <balrog> I'd just upgrade because the ft232h is a better chip

14:45 <cr1901_modern> They didn't suggest anything :P. I prob won't hear from them for a day lmao

14:53 <cr1901_modern> balrog: The main problem is that I intend to reuse the SPI config pins as I/O after configuration is done. I'm currently trying to determine whether it is possible to share the SPI config pins and pins used for FT245 mode. I'd like to avoid using an FT2232H.

14:54 <cr1901_modern> IceStick can already be programmed in "Peripheral Mode (i.e. No Flash memory)" with a mod. Haven't figured out exactly what changed yet.

15:01 <azonenberg> I think the 232H may be able to operate in MPSSE mode

15:01 <azonenberg> or parallel mode

15:01 <azonenberg> dont quote me on that though

15:05 <cr1901_modern> azonenberg: It can. I checked. And the cost of upgrading to FT232H (not 2232H) is minimal. The issue is pin sharing.

15:06 <cr1901_modern> FT2232H gets around this by well... preventing pin sharing (one channel for SPI config, the other for a queue). It's also bumps up the cost by 40% relative to the FPGA.

15:06 <cr1901_modern> azonenberg: I also considered a small microcontroller. Want to see my pros/cons list if interested and have a moment?

16:01 <defparam_> wow, didn't know lattice got into iPhone 7

16:01 <defparam_> http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/09/19/1-more-surprise-winner-inside-the-apple-inc-iphone.aspx

16:16 <cr1901_modern> defparam_: Yea, saw that a few days ago. Curious what it;s used for...

16:17 <defparam_> im wondering if they didn't have time to get design into silicon