<Turl>
furan: CONFIG_MALI option generates the ump module too
<furan>
I see. I set it to 'y'
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<lundman>
what did I miss
<furan>
me failing at bringup :)
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<djdonkey>
Turl and ZaEarl, we have loaded the official image from manufacturer on both tablets now, and we must confess, the gt801 is not identified on one of them, which just so happens to be the one we have been developing with! So we are about to load our android image onto the tablet with working gt801 to eliminate the possibility of a HW fault
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<djdonkey>
I'll be in touch but it will take time, because have to take kids to school :(
<djdonkey>
damn life chores...
<ZaEarl>
yeah, never trust that two devices are identical until you verify it.
<djdonkey>
ZaEarl and Turl, I want to thank you for your support, i'm very impressed with your help...
<djdonkey>
might have to join the newsgroup
<Turl>
you're welcome :)
<furan>
I need to get recovery working on here. the way I flash roms right now is so evil. I've been just dd'ing recovery to nandc, booting from it, and then flashing from there
<WarheadsSE>
Anyone have an idea why when I set screen0 to HDMI, 1080i I get a ~ 800/600 screen to the left side of my TV ?
* WarheadsSE
shrug
<Turl>
hno: do you have any kind of 'roadmap' regarding FEL?
<furan>
well that's interesting
<furan>
I got touch to work
<furan>
I have to use two fingers at the same time
<furan>
and it performs as one
<Turl>
you're probably missing the screen calibration file then
<DonkeyHotei>
i'm guessing you'll be choosing china post
<DonkeyHotei>
lundman: that's a country, not a region of a country
<lundman>
its been 20 days and my package is about to be delivered
<lundman>
not sure china post is worth it :)
<lundman>
donkey: its a way of life
* DonkeyHotei
was born in the USSR
<lundman>
i should pop over to russia, vladivostok is a stone throw away.. not sure what to do though
<furan>
looks like sun4i_keyboard
<Turl>
rz2k: even DHLing to my country is cheaper heh :)
<lundman>
the wife did her uni degree in russian, so she is always keen to go
<rz2k>
weird thing is, you cant DHL or UPS anything to Russia now
<DonkeyHotei>
DHL won't do it?
<DonkeyHotei>
odd
<rz2k>
because DHL and UPS dont accept any parcels for non-companies
<lundman>
$500us tokyo to Vladivostok, not too shabby
<rz2k>
they claim it like theres something with our customs
<DonkeyHotei>
lundman: is that round trip?
<lundman>
yep
<lundman>
probably a boat cruise option too, i wonder
<rz2k>
probably it is, but companies like Amazon just place some random stuff in company field when printing UPS label and it goes ok
<lundman>
heh also $500
<Turl>
rz2k: here DHL, UPS, Fedex & the like work under a different customs system
<lundman>
but 2 nights, meals included
<Turl>
there's the 'couriers' system and the mail system
<Turl>
mail is EMS & stuff like USPS or china post
<lundman>
"Don't count on many amenities, though; a ship might show a swimming pool on the deck plan, for example, but you'll find it drained to store motorcycles once you're aboard. "
<rz2k>
recently I got package from Digi-Key, they didnt want to send it till I posted my workplace as company name.
<rz2k>
lundman: I cant really recommend something in Vladivostok, but I'm sure you will find someone who can. I'm in Moscow, which is in famous 7 days of train from Vladivostok.
<rz2k>
I have a friend in Vladivostok tho, he works at some chinese distributor, goes to China on bus every week
<steev>
Turl: external_cedarx has a jb branch? how did you pull that off?
<lundman>
yeah, its more than it really close, and only 1.5hr flight. the train journey is indeed famous and would be tempting
<lundman>
kids love trains and we've done quite a number of sleepers now
<Turl>
steev: I did a jb branch to try to get it building again
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<furan>
is thre any way to just follow the kprint log
<furan>
instead of running dmesg over and ver
<WarheadsSE>
ok.. all those with Mele stuff
<WarheadsSE>
anyone seen random as *** stoppings during boot?
<WarheadsSE>
. bluetooth . _dead
<WarheadsSE>
.... RTC _dead
<DonkeyHotei>
i have not seen that so far, but i haven't paid that much attention to it
<WarheadsSE>
Oh, you'd know. boot stops before the rootfs
<WarheadsSE>
hmm
<WarheadsSE>
seems to have been *very* pissy extra mmc endabled.
<WarheadsSE>
nvm..
<WarheadsSE>
still doing it.
<steev>
nexus is here
<steev>
guess it be time to take apart the ly-f1
<steev>
specing will be happy about that
<furan>
ok I'm a little surprised there is no header containing defines and macros for hardware registers
<furan>
everything hardcodes register addresses
<furan>
baby jesus crying etc
<lundman>
pretty much what going through the nic driver was like
<lundman>
vbase+0x78 = 4|8<<2
<lundman>
I mean, what?
<lundman>
also, who makes bits, or, then shift up? very odd
<furan>
nevermind I found the header
<furan>
so this driver I am reversing accesses an address between 2 known register values
<furan>
0xf1c20000
<furan>
sorry
<furan>
0xf1c22000
<furan>
that's between ir1_base and iis_base
<furan>
I guess it's square inside the ir1 range
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<furan>
is there anything special at 0x02c00000?
<furan>
this driver derefs 0x2c00049, and it isn't a known address in the module
<markvandenborre>
it was just the -android that confused me
<mnemoc>
the kernel is androidized
<markvandenborre>
thinking that that was more a kind of anroidish kernel
<mnemoc>
the source tree is androidized, same for 3.4
<markvandenborre>
I thought we had a cleanish vanilla linux kernel running underneath our Debian
<markvandenborre>
(I'm a classical guitarist by trade, so not really an android expert)
<markvandenborre>
thx for the help
<mnemoc>
picking sun4i_defconfig you shouldn't notice the android bits
<markvandenborre>
perfect
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<mnemoc>
because of that common confusion the 3.4 branch doesn't say "android" even when it is androidized too
<markvandenborre>
good to know
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<NZBBoSS>
anyone here have the Mele A1/2000 ?
<mnemoc>
many people
<NZBBoSS>
just wondering if anyone has managed to get a bluetooth dongle / gamepad connected tot he unit?
<mnemoc>
tried the host ports on the back?
<mnemoc>
the host port on the side doesn't like dongles
<NZBBoSS>
im still waiting for mine to arrive, any day now! purchased a couple as i like the openess of them
<lundman>
i didnt see any diff with which usb port
<lundman>
but not tried bluetoth
<mnemoc>
the black cover doesn't let short dongles connect properly
<lundman>
ah
<mnemoc>
but BT doesn't care about been on the back
<NZBBoSS>
but just thinking ahead, if they are capable of this, as I would like to hopefully modify the likes of mame4droid to turn it into a mini console
<markvandenborre>
NZBBoSS: they seem to be awesome little devices
<markvandenborre>
just make sure to order a usbttl thingie with it
<NZBBoSS>
yeah, if they had bluetooth built in they would be the icing on the cake :P
<markvandenborre>
it might save you a lot of trouble for the $3 it costs you
<NZBBoSS>
Actually I was just looking where I can order one from, anyone know if there is a UK place for them?
<NZBBoSS>
the usbttl thing
<markvandenborre>
do it directly from China, in the same package
<NZBBoSS>
I already ordered 5 of the boxes (from a different seller)
<mnemoc>
any random usb/ttl dongle you buy will come with 0.1" jumper wires. for the mele you'll need 2mm ones, so better it's easier if you buy it from Tom together with the mele
<mnemoc>
s/better //
<ibot>
mnemoc meant: any random usb/ttl dongle you buy will come with 0.1" jumper wires. for the mele you'll need 2mm ones, so it's easier if you buy it from Tom together with the mele
<markvandenborre>
he probably hasn't shipped it yet (he's rather slow at htat)
<markvandenborre>
s/htat/that
<mnemoc>
markvandenborre: trailing /
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<markvandenborre>
s/htat.that/ :)
<markvandenborre>
awww, another typo
<markvandenborre>
anyway, you might still be able to get your seller (T C?) to include the thing
<mnemoc>
he bought them from a different seller
<NZBBoSS>
ill have a quick look, if not ill order from toms ali page and just wait ;)
<mnemoc>
Tom posts on sundays only
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<NZBBoSS>
assume i can still modify the unit to a degree without ot
<NZBBoSS>
it*
<mnemoc>
you can buy 2.54-2.00 wire jumpers on ebay too... but they are pretty expensive
<mnemoc>
NZBBoSS: sure, unless you bought an A100, which needs you to solder the sata connector
eebrah is now known as ibrah
<NZBBoSS>
nah bought the a2000
<NZBBoSS>
with F10 air mouse
<markvandenborre>
mnemoc: you have an a100?
<mnemoc>
nope, a1k and a2k
<markvandenborre>
hm, k
<markvandenborre>
I'll have to ask hipboi__ then
<markvandenborre>
about the number of usb ports on this thing
<markvandenborre>
I need something running debian with at least 3...
<NZBBoSS>
any of you running ICS? as notcied that was not long released
<mnemoc>
markvandenborre: it has 3 normal host ports
<specing>
NZBBoSS: shame, you could have bought a quad core exynos and save $20
<lundman>
not proved itself either
<RaYmAn>
the sad thing about ouya, is that in all likelyhood, there'll be Cortex A15 devices out at that time :P
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<mnemoc>
RaYmAn: JB for Adam? :(
<RaYmAn>
mnemoc: mrdeadlocked is working on it, kinda :P
<mnemoc>
narf
<mnemoc>
:)
<hno>
furan, 1c22000 is not IR1. No idea what's there. What driver is it you are looking at again?
<RaYmAn>
It's not hard
<RaYmAn>
It just annoys me to hell with those last issues in the kernel
<NZBBoSS>
I was actually looking for a board that already has a quad core processor, the needed connections and built-in bluetooth
<NZBBoSS>
but could not find one that already had bluetooth in.
<RaYmAn>
mnemoc: have you ever noticed a high-pitch squeak coming from the screen (I think) on >= .36 kernels?
<mnemoc>
RaYmAn: yes
<RaYmAn>
damn :P Was hoping it was just me ;)
<mnemoc>
when powering up to read during the night
<RaYmAn>
those kind of issues kind of annoy me
<mnemoc>
initially I thought it was a power brick
<mnemoc>
but no, it's my beloved adam
<RaYmAn>
in particular, because I have nfi why it happens (well, clearly it's driving the LCD "wrong" in some way)
<hno>
RaYmAn, more likely from the PWM that drives the backlight.
<mnemoc>
I can live with it, but bothers me most is that everything halts when "play" decides to update something
<mnemoc>
hi hno
<hno>
hi hi
<RaYmAn>
hno: hm, quite possible, but how the heck does one debug such an issue? :P
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<hno>
heavy reainfall, thunder an ligning here today. Hopefully network stays up,
<hno>
RaYmAn, a good start is to isolate if it's the backlight or the LCD. Physically disconnecting one or the other is one way, blocking in software another.
<RaYmAn>
hm
<hno>
an osciloscope also helps when debugging analog hardware.
<lundman>
ok mele flymouse works very well with xbmc
<CIA-122>
rhombus-tech: Alexandr master * r162fc99ea1d7 /allwinner_a10/orders/AlexM.mdwn:
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<hno>
sparks flying out from the DSL modem but seems to have surived after a reboot.
<mnemoc>
ouch
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<mnemoc>
Mali<1>: Failed to request memory region Mali Sdram (0x5C000000 - 0x5FFFFFFF)
<mnemoc>
aha!
<mnemoc>
why the f* don't they say that when DEBUG is not defined??!
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<hno>
mnemoc, because they are designing for an embedded market where only a handful people integrate stuff the rest just runs what is already proven without caring what they run?
<rm>
linux-libre removed microcode loading since forever
<rm>
nothing to ugh at, just being consistent
<mnemoc>
as long as proprietary code doesn't obstacle the userspace freedom, I don't care
<mnemoc>
i.e. closed firmware and microcode = ok, closed libraries = bad
<mnemoc>
(firmware as in /lib/firmware/)
<hno>
perhaps he is consistent, but I still don't agree with it. Loadable microcode is there to work around hardware bugs making the hardware comply with it's own specifications.
<rm>
I am not so convinced on the "firmware=bad" position
<rm>
and that if the same firmware is burned into a small ROM on the device instead, it's ok
<hno>
I also accept FPGA firmware as hardware. And have the view that loadable firmware is much more free than ROM:ed firmware. With loadable firmware there is always the option to liberate the hardware, such as is done in Rockbox for example.
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<markvandenborre>
mnemoc: good to know about the 3 usb ports on the a100, thx
<mnemoc>
markvandenborre: because it's the exact same PCB
<markvandenborre>
right, off to grab my usb hdd now
<mnemoc>
markvandenborre: the only difference with a1k/a2k is taht the sata connector is not soldered
<markvandenborre>
perfect for my purpose
<hno>
ManoftheSea, there should be 3+2 USB ports on a100 (3 external, 2 internal)
<markvandenborre>
err, like, more on the a100 than on the a1k/2k?
<mnemoc>
hno: any idea how to reserve the 64M for mali without making the in-driver request_mem_region() fail?
<hno>
mnemoc, the same reservation as done for ve did not work?
<mnemoc>
hno: nope, the mali driver requests the region too... and fails, and panics
<mnemoc>
i guess I can just ignore it and pray no one gets it assigned before the mali driver does... but sounds risky
<RaYmAn>
is the mali driver customized for allwinner?
<RaYmAn>
If so, wouldn't it be possible to just pass it the memory through e.g. platform device?
<RaYmAn>
So it doesn't have to request anything, it just gets it, ready for ioremap?
<hno>
mnemoc, making it plaform_device resources is not hard. The ugly part is fixing the driver to use the platform_device instead of hardcoded memory references.
<mnemoc>
yes, that's what I meant
<mnemoc>
but it seems the driver support it too.... maybe
<hno>
mnemoc, that patch only touches the drm dummy which don't do any memory reservation.
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<hno>
also notice how mali is the only one doing this in gpu/
<mnemoc>
it's easy to understand why allwinner chose to cut the chunk directly out of the meminfo
<hno>
but might be a coincidence from mali being the only one having memory separate from the framebuffer?
<mnemoc>
but they have a reference to the fb memory in the resources struct too
<hackandfab>
HELP!, I think I messed up and now the meleA2000 starts but it gets stuck at BOOT1
<markvandenborre>
can I use the generic uboot-mkimage when building the a10 kernel?
<markvandenborre>
(the generic one from debian, that is, and the generic u-boot-tools?
<mnemoc>
markvandenborre: `make uImage` uses the generic uboot-mkimage...
<mnemoc>
nothing fancy there
<markvandenborre>
I guessed so, but it's always nice to know... thank you
<mnemoc>
hackandfab: you can always reflash it with an stock phoenixcard SD
<mnemoc>
hackandfab: wait until the leds stop blinking
<mnemoc>
A10 devices are unbrickable
<markvandenborre>
about the only thing I knew about arm boot before starting to fiddle with this was that it almost always uses uboot, and that uboot is often mutilated in several ways depending on the device in question...
<markvandenborre>
takes quite a bit of time when building on the device itself...
<hackandfab>
mnemoc, thx I'll try (I did a very stupid mistake. I thought rhombustech RESET pin was to reset the device and it seems is to RESET the flash :S)
<mnemoc>
hackandfab: I believe you are refering to the FEL pin... which sets your device into FEL (usb recovery) mode
<mnemoc>
there is no pin to blank the flash
<hackandfab>
no, not the FEL pin, another pin more at the right
<markvandenborre>
is there a straightforward way to have debian boot from the nand flash?
<hackandfab>
at the middle of the 3 circles
<mnemoc>
markvandenborre: the nanda has a capable uboot, just abuse that one
<mnemoc>
hackandfab: that powercycles the mele
* markvandenborre
is still reading up on uboot
<hackandfab>
thats what I thought but now boot gets stuck at boot1 (I can read boot text from the UART)
<mnemoc>
markvandenborre: but beware, the nand driver is AWFUL and it's performance sticks. you are far better working from SD
<mnemoc>
assuming a fast SD card obviusly
<mnemoc>
hackandfab: you may have corrupted the vfat partition
<hackandfab>
mnemoc, using phoenixcard SD would fix the problem?
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<traeak>
crap...what video recording application for linux?
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<steev>
mnemoc: actually i don't particularly do so, at least, not most of the time, most upstreams (hopefully) have tested and know what works best these days
<mnemoc>
:)
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<hackandfab>
lundman: you've an error on your wiki, line "sudo dd if=homlet_4.0_v1.0_20120609_dd.img.lzma of=/dev/sdX bs=1M" should't have lzma on it
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<traeak>
heh
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<WarheadsSE>
yeah, that wont work lundman :)
<WarheadsSE>
i didnt notice that onces, was like wtf with my sdcard
<traeak>
i think he was expecting the end user to figure out the lzma part
<hackandfab>
I do the dd and it gets stuck at "[SCAN_DBG] Nand Chip ID: 0x0x4a04682c 0x0xffffffff" The led no longer blinks
<traeak>
i used a different image, there's the newer ICS from mele
<xenoxaos>
and actually.....if i rememeber correctly 7z when it extracts....doesnt remove the trailing .lzma
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<hackandfab>
I removed the lzma
<hackandfab>
and extracted before
<xenoxaos>
removing something from a filename doesnt do anythign to the contents of the file....i was just saying that if you follow the instructions....the line in the wiki is right
<traeak>
xenoxaos: hehe, had customers do that before. some image format wouldjn't load so he renamed it to "tif" and it still didn't load
<traeak>
heh
* xenoxaos
worked at geek squad...
<xenoxaos>
i know the expanse of derptitude
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<hackandfab>
OEOEOEOE! it worked with another SD card
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<mnemoc>
the other card booted a lzma compressed image???
<mnemoc>
(j/k)
<traeak>
this was someone doing image processing
<traeak>
trying to make an image mosaic
<traeak>
anyways
<traeak>
hackandfab: not surprised. when in doubt blame the sd card