mnemoc changed the topic of #arm-netbook to: EOMA: Embedded Open Modular Architecture - Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook or http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/ - http://rhombus-tech.net/
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<WarheadsSE> mnemoc: Turl .. anyone else using the recent 3.0.38 changes in allwinner-3.0-anroid-v2 ..
<WarheadsSE> anyone recognize this ? sw_hcd_init_controller.constprop.8
<ManoftheSea> 3.5 released
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<DonkeyHotei> is there anywhere to download ImageSuite except slatedroid and flashmyandroid? both require registration
<WarheadsSE> there is a link there to DB
<WarheadsSE> DonkeyHotei: ^^
<DonkeyHotei> that's the GB imagesuite; i need the ICS one
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<CIA-122> rhombus-tech: steve master * r9d5fbfabcb81 /allwinner_a10/orders/maubassi.mdwn:
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<rm> excellent, got my USB DisplayLink adapter to work with the Mele
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<rm> and it supports DPMS properly
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<orly_owl> \o/
<orly_owl> rm: what did that cost you
<rm> $30 or 35
<orly_owl> nice
<orly_owl> what resolution and size monitor?
<rm> 1680x1050
<rm> 20"
<orly_owl> no issues so far then?
<rm> I only used it for a bit
<orly_owl> ok
<orly_owl> what's a good ui for a tablet that runs on GNU+Linux? KDE's plasma active?
<specing> I don't thing you'll be able to run anything else if you used KDE
<specing> think*
<orly_owl> lol
<specing> Maybe nokia's maemo?
<orly_owl> ah yes, could do
<orly_owl> i like android's ui but not it's use of java
<specing> Yeah
<orly_owl> i dunno
<orly_owl> maybe ill just buy an allwinner a10 device and learn that way
<orly_owl> how is mali 400 progressing?
<orly_owl> i see if their website tells me
<orly_owl> *I'll
<rm> w00t =)
<specing> Till 512M ram is $18 difference
<orly_owl> is that still using the allwinner a10 but @ 1.5ghz?
<specing> It is the same 1Ghz A10
<specing> 1.5 Ghz is a lie
<orly_owl> i thought as much
<specing> :)
<orly_owl> its 1ghz isnt it
<specing> I think mali is 500 Mhz or something like that and they just add them up
<orly_owl> more lies!
<ManoftheSea> also, 2 x 1080p is where they find 2160p
<orly_owl> yep
<penguin42> it's like the way people used to rate stereos
<orly_owl> i notied its AK802 instead of MK802, thats the only difference i can see
<orly_owl> i just remember that rms is better ^^
<rm> that's all overpriced
<rm> 1GB is $62 on Aliepxpress
<hipboi> 1GB uHost is better
<hipboi> with populated uart
<orly_owl> what is the A100? i see people talk about it in here
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<ManoftheSea> obviously it's 10dB better.
<ManoftheSea> and the A1000 is 10dB better still.
<orly_owl> thanks
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<ManoftheSea> orly_owl: you know that's a joke, right?
<orly_owl> yep
<orly_owl> and my reply was sarcasm
<WarheadsSE> lol
<WarheadsSE> the A100 is essentially the A1000 minus USM/sata port
<orly_owl> USM?
<WarheadsSE> it's a seagate-ism
<orly_owl> sounds sucky, i like sata
<orly_owl> the sata port on top?
<WarheadsSE> Yes, that is a USM port
<orly_owl> ah ok
<orly_owl> a100 lacks internal sata port too?
<WarheadsSE> it's just not soldered on
<WarheadsSE> otherwise, same A10, same 512M, same Mali
<specing> The sata connector is 0.3$ ;)
<orly_owl> ok lol
<WarheadsSE> yeah, not hard to add it back
<WarheadsSE> There is much less room in the case though
<orly_owl> is there room for a 2.5" hdd inside?
<specing> Who needs cases anyway?
<orly_owl> heh
<specing> I'd need a heatsink for the A10 anyway
<specing> It is extraordinarily hot
<rm> mk802 manages to go without
<WarheadsSE> meh, plx gets hot too
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<ManoftheSea> The uHost claims arm-netbook is it's channel?
<ManoftheSea> oh, is this Tom Cubie?
<hipboi> yes
<hipboi> and good night
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<rm> so, has anyone got DPMS to work with the A10 display output?
<WarheadsSE> dpms
<WarheadsSE> ?
<ManoftheSea> display power management?
<WarheadsSE> ah
<WarheadsSE> havent reid.
<WarheadsSE> * tried
<WarheadsSE> Probably would if I had gotten to the Gooseberry
<WarheadsSE> lmeing has started on that, we're going to put the instructions for the Mele's online today/tomorrow
<rm> I have a desktop computer that's on 24x7
<rm> it's used only rarely, sometimes when someone wanders around to browse the web or IM
<rm> and it has to turn off the monitor when not in use
<WarheadsSE> So why is it on 24x7?
<rm> because why not
<WarheadsSE> because if the boot time is 8 seconds?
<rm> never guess when you might need something on the web
<rm> it's 2 minutes
<WarheadsSE> slow for you
<rm> that computer used to be a P3 that booted from an NFS share
<rm> so definitely not 8 seconds
<rm> and now that computer is a Mele A2000 :)
<rm> maybe I will put an MK802 there instead
<rm> at least it will make a bit more sense to pair it with a displaylink adapter
<rm> as it doesn't have its own VGA
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<Scepterr> any of you guys got a raspberrypi ?
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<rm> nope
<rm> mk802 is better
<rm> so I am not even ordering an R Pi
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<Mazon> well, an ovalelephant is better than an mk802 :p
<Mazon> that said an RPi is pretty versatile
<Mazon> unlike the mk802
<rm> it's not
<rm> (on both matters)
<rm> ovalelephant is priced higher and is much less widely-available (is it even available at all yet?)
<rm> RPi has only the GPIO going for it
<rm> that's all
<rm> sixty!
<Scepterr> well i got an rpi already and ordered a pineriver h24
<Scepterr> :)
<Scepterr> media capability on rpi is rock solid, does 1080p without skipping a beat
<Scepterr> that and the arduino capabilites sold me on the rpi at $35
<rm> $35+$8+$10+$5=$58 actually
<rm> + "despatch in 19 weeks" b/s
<Scepterr> i ordered on rls day and got it 3 months later
<Scepterr> was fully expecting to
<Mazon> oval had hdmi clamps == goood
<rm> I don't see mass reports of mk802 failing
<Scepterr> and i paid $35 flat :)
<Mazon> if it was only the mk802 that failed ;)
<Mazon> problem if it blows your TVs port
<rm> Scepterr, sooooo you didn't pay shipping?
<Scepterr> yah
<rm> and you still don't have a case?
<Scepterr> got a case
<Scepterr> awesome case
<rm> and I assume you use a PSU you found in a dumpster?:>
<rm> that's the three $8+$10+$5
<Scepterr> runs off usb power
<Scepterr> runs off my tv usb power
<rm> that one is even $15, not 10
<rm> what a ripoff
<Scepterr> it was a luxury
<Scepterr> i built alego case :)
<Scepterr> can have it completely portable with a 10000mah anker battery and 3.4 lcd :)
<Scepterr> 3.5" *
<phh> so, what's the state of hardware video decoding on allwinner a10 ? not working at all, not even a demo ?
<von_fritz> on android it works :) on linux :(
<hackandfab> I'm looking at cedar libraries and file command says ARM, version 1 but readelf says ABI Version: 0 and then machine ARM version 1.
<hackandfab> I'm looking at cdxalloc.o inside libcedarxalloc.a
<phh> you're looking at something precisely or just browsing ?
<hackandfab> armhf compiles for arm EABI2 and armel for arm EABI1, and the old EABI was named arm (I'll call it arm eabi0 here). I want to know if it uses arm eabi1 or eabi0
<phh> it wasn't called eabi before, right ?
<phh> because strings on it raises many eabi matches
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<hackandfab> ok I found the answer to EABIs here: http://www.rtems.org/pipermail/rtems-devel/2012-April/000893.html
<phh> so binaries are old abi ... ?
<hno> hackandfab, I don't think we have armhf CedarX binaries just yet. But have not given up hope that the situation will improve on that front.
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