#bitcoin-wizards on 2019-02-02 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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16:53 <sarang> I was reading the paper on the new Sonic SNARK scheme, interested mainly in the updateable SRS... the paper did not make it clear what the assumptions were on the update process and any verification of such an update. Any insights from this room?

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17:07 <nsh> which paper, sarang?

17:08 <nsh> ah https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/099.pdf

17:08 <sarang> Yep

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17:29 <nsh> it has occurred to me that zero-knowledge properties might be useful for local computations as well as for distributed systems, but i am not yet able to formalise this intuition meaningfully enough

17:30 <nsh> but the rough idea is to implement quantum-like computations classically by operating in zero-knowledge to produce certificates of completion of subtasks but have the route by which they were arrived at be unknown to the computer

17:30 <nsh> and operating in zero-knowledge should conceivably enable this

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18:45 <nsh> what would/might the/a transition plan be in the case of a known break of ecc

18:46 <nsh> security of addresses would rest on ripemd160 collision and second-preimage resistance

18:46 <nsh> which we shouldn't expect to hold more than a few decades

18:47 <nsh> obviously the worst-case scenario is a simultaneous break of the hash and asymmetric cryptography primitives but assuming the latter breaks first it seems sensible to have some transition proposals

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