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<gleb>
I just realized that there is some similarity between Taproot and deniable encryption :)
<gleb>
Imagine an output which is just encrypted data, and to spend it you have to reveal a key, which decrypts it into one of 2 valid scripts
<belcher>
thats quite similar to p2sh isnt it? the output is a hash and to spend it you must reveal the redeem script
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<waxwing>
interesting. even in merkelised (MAST) version, you have a problem with deniability because you don't want the contract alterable after the event by your counterparty. so collision resistance prevents deniability right?
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<waxwing>
(i'm just imagining like P2 = P + H(C||P)G stuff (taproot) with C being a merkle root in most general case for a bunch of scripts).
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<gmaxwell>
Graftroot is policy denyable... taproot/mast isn't, just policy private. There is perhaps a very limited denyability because you can deny that alternatives exist. "E.g. there was no tap, just a key" "the rightmost branch is just a random number"
<gmaxwell>
"There was no key, P was a nums point"
<waxwing>
right makes sense, thanks. although i now actually read gleb 's second sentence and realise i may well have totally missed his point.
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