ELLIOTTCABLE changed the topic of #elliottcable to: #ELLIOTTCABLE — “do something cool, shove it into throats, everyone thinks it's crap, then it's all amazing.” “everything else is just details.”
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<whitequark> why do you americans have a knack for big, no, BIG, rectangular, brightly illuminated vehicles?
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<alexgordon> whitequark: UK ones are big and rectangular too!
<alexgordon> I think it's because they have a lot of equipment to fit in
<alexgordon> russians probably just use gunpowder and a knife
<alexgordon> I just searched for "russian ambulance" and...
<joelteon> hokay
<devyn> a
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<mcc> hi again
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<cuttle> whitequark: room for equipment and for doing things to patients, and very visible when sirens wailing
<cuttle> right?
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<purr> <AAA_awright> Fine I guess you don't want me
<joelteon> delta is in a shambles
<purr> <prophile> culturally speaking i'm covered in bees
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<alexgordon> wat
<alexgordon> purr: wat.
<purr> alexgordon: can't find the referenced what.
<whitequark> re that russian ambulance picture up there
<whitequark> my guess would be that it's a regular ambulance modified to be able to cross permafrost
<whitequark> which requires big, low-pressure tires in order to not damage it too much
<whitequark> it's still an insane monster truck, but this is what you get when your healthcare sector receives like zero money
<whitequark> oooh neat, all of my patches to LLVM core are merged
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<purr> <micahjohnston> the question mark is a good character
<joelteon> it's awfully nice outside today
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<whitequark> kerbal space program is neat
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<alexgordon> gah fuck this place
<alexgordon> whitequark: can I come and live with you?
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<whitequark> alexgordon: ok
<alexgordon> it's settled!
<whitequark> (and I'm not even joking)
<alexgordon> what's not to like about russia!
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<whitequark> alexgordon: as long as you're not gay...
<alexgordon> ...or communist
<whitequark> huh?
<whitequark> there's plenty of communists in present-day russia. even a party of them.
<whitequark> and of course a large chunk of population believes that "there was no such shit during communism"
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<alexgordon> whitequark: well I was under impression that the communists are putin's main rivals... and well, we know what happens to putin's rivals
<whitequark> alexgordon: lol no
<purr> lol
<whitequark> there's no official political party who putin would consider a 'rival' one
<whitequark> guess why ;)
<purr> <alexgordon> eboy just had an orgasm aftershock
<whitequark> there *is* navalny, and putin seems to be quite afraid of him...
<alexgordon> he's for it then
* alexgordon makes gesture across neck
<whitequark> interestingly enough, nope
<whitequark> he got convicted for "kirovles" case
<whitequark> the case itself boils down to this: navalny was doing business (buying things for X, selling for X+Y, keeping Y) and that turns out to be illegal
<whitequark> if you've wtf'd, so is everyone else.
<alexgordon> nope seems perfectly russian that that would be illegal!
<whitequark> so, he got convicted and got 5 years suspended sentence
<whitequark> which is harsh enough to not let him run for president in 2018 (hence putin clearly views him as competition, unlike anyone else around)
<whitequark> but not too harsh to cause mass revolts or something (as it has happened earlier)
<whitequark> the end result will be that navalny definitely will not run for president but will continue to walk free and fuck him in a multitude of various other ways
<alexgordon> heh
<alexgordon> that's nice of him, I mean putin must be getting pretty lonely now
<whitequark> he *almost* passed legally as the mayor of moscow
<whitequark> considering he has no support from the state and like $300k for his volunteer-run campaign that's pretty impressive
<whitequark> the results got tampered with, but it seems that he wouldn't become a mayor anyhow, by a really really thin margin. bad luck.
<whitequark> i really wish he did pass. that would result in either a really great mayor, a really great entertainment, or both
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<kellysaurusx> alexgordon: that ‘russian ambulance’ looks pretty damn familiar.
<alexgordon> kellysaurusx?
<kellysaurusx> alexgordon: minus the red/white paint, it looks nearly identical to a flavor of vehicle that a reasonable number of old family friends in Alaska owned
<kellysaurusx> twitter.com/kellysaurusx
<whitequark> kellysaurusx: I guess similar requirements
<alexgordon> kellysaurusx: what the actual fuck?
<kellysaurusx> argos are really popular up there, too
<alexgordon> kellysaurusx: what's with the name
<alexgordon> and picture
<alexgordon> and
<alexgordon> what?
<kellysaurusx> my family only had fairly standard wheelers
<kellysaurusx> the hardest-core we ever got was Kenda Executioner tires
<kellysaurusx> alexgordon: hallow'een
<kellysaurusx> hm
<alexgordon> ah
<kellysaurusx> hallowe'en?
<kellysaurusx> that.
<alexgordon> all hallows' eve?
<kellysaurusx> she's a good friend, who changed her username a while back. I quietly snatched up the old one.
<kellysaurusx> All Hallows' Evening.
<alexgordon> kellysaurusx: so this is like, reverse stalking?
<kellysaurusx> e'ening, e'en'. hallows' e'en. hallowe'en.
<kellysaurusx> … also known as identity theft, yes, that.
<alexgordon> I see
<alexgordon> "#butts sometimes"
<alexgordon> can't go to russia, kellysaurusx
<kellysaurusx> what about russia?
<alexgordon> butts NEVER
<yorick> haloween is invading our traditions :/
<yorick> kids just want more opportunities to go past doors and take candy
<yorick> because we have a holiday for that already and it's november 11th.
<alexgordon> what happens on november 11th?
<yorick> basically kids go past doors with lights and ask candy.
<alexgordon> interesting
<kellysaurusx> whitequark: re: insanities, what micah's been calling bubbling and what he and you were talking about,
<alexgordon> "I invented Ruby, Node.js, and all of the LISPs.
<alexgordon>
<kellysaurusx> transactions is a very interesting way to put it, because at least in terms of memory-management, that might as well be what it is
<alexgordon> Now I'm inventing Paws.
<alexgordon>
<alexgordon> "
<alexgordon> this guy is such a nobhead
<kellysaurusx> alexgordon: you *just* noticed? that's been my bio for aaaaages now.
<alexgordon> kellysaurusx: funny thing is, you always tweet when I'm asleep
<alexgordon> like, I never see your tweets
<alexgordon> even though you tweet so much
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<kellysaurusx> hm
<kellysaurusx> I need to start using one of those fucktard-empowering ‘social media’ suites
<kellysaurusx> that, like, spread your inanity evenly over all the common time-zones, concentrating it around the most popular twitter-using periods of each time-zone
<alexgordon> kellysaurusx: your twitter friends are strange
<kellysaurusx> how's that
<kellysaurusx> so, yeah, transactions, hm
<alexgordon> yes exactly
<kellysaurusx> yes, whitequark, time-travel is intended to be delineated
<kellysaurusx> but at the moment, *how* is a bit up-in-the-air.
<whitequark> ah, so THAT is what you guys call time-travel
<kellysaurusx> I tend towards weird solutions (or “innovative” ones if I want to pump up my ego a bit more than it already is),
<whitequark> also who the hell are you?..
<whitequark> oh
<whitequark> ec.
<kellysaurusx> but just ‘make the programmer say when they want to start a transaction, and then say when they want to commit it’ isn't enough for me.
<alexgordon> kellysaurusx: give me sweets
<kellysaurusx> I *know* there's another approach to this, from a D.I. point of view.
* whitequark nods
<kellysaurusx> but yes:
<whitequark> kellysaurusx: you probably want to check whether it's safe, anyway
<kellysaurusx> time-travel (pending re-naming to “transactions”, in the Great Paws Renaming of 2013) boils down to,
<whitequark> and if you DO check, you almost always have better approaches than "let the programmer specify everything"
<whitequark> e.g. typing / type inference.
<kellysaurusx> undelineated transactions.
<kellysaurusx> nope, no typing.
<kellysaurusx> Paws has one type, and no object-system. That's final, and settled.
<kellysaurusx> If *nothing else*, I want it for philosophical reasons: anybody contributing to, or working on, Paws, can never get the wrong idea about where their priorities should lie, if the language is old-school “dynamic.”
<whitequark> nonono, not talking about paws at all
<whitequark> I mean
<whitequark> that *when* you have typing, it's also natural to add type inference.
<kellysaurusx> oh, missed a message. I HATE irc cloud, it colors my own messages the same colour as messages hi lighting me
<whitequark> compared to: *when* you have transactions with more safety checking
<whitequark> you likely can make them more convenient.
<kellysaurusx> so I always ignore messages hi lighting me, because they look like more of my own text that *I wrote*, so I wouldn't *need* to read it.
<kellysaurusx> yeah.
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<purr> <devyn> guise, I'm too high for this shit