ELLIOTTCABLE changed the topic of #elliottcable to: #ELLIOTTCABLE — “do something cool, shove it into throats, everyone thinks it's crap, then it's all amazing.” “everything else is just details.”
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: O_°
<purr> <alexgordon> (that was an enema joke, my first ever)
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<whitequark> alexgordon: lol I've seen that picture already
<purr> lol
<whitequark> also I'm not slapping a type system over an existing language
<whitequark> I'm slapping an existing syntax over a new language
<whitequark> which is evil too, but at least not as silly
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<purr> <alexgordon> impotence implies idempotence
<devyn> o.o
<devyn> aka, "we comply with censorship by building content categorization into the system"
<cuttle> impotence implies idempotence
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<purr> <yrashk> super async MMORPG
<devyn> lol
<purr> lol
<devyn> I don't care that it's completely insane and ridiculous
<devyn> there's just something so puzzling about urbit that makes me want to hack it
<devyn> I'll compile nock via llvm. hit a bird and a lizard with one stone :)
<devyn> hm
<devyn> I don't think that really works...
<devyn> it's all reduction, I mean, I guess I could do /something/
<devyn> so never mind what I said.
<devyn> this whole thing is so weird
<devyn> hahaha
<devyn> maw
<devyn> bowl
<devyn> nori
<devyn> soba
<devyn> miso
<devyn> :p
<purr> <alexgordon> writing C should be called "sailing"
<devyn> if you say so
<niggler> anyone on windows?
<devyn> niggler: why?
<niggler> the microsoft one claims that it's undefined
<niggler> the apple one says its 0xF8FF and the comment is "apple logo"
<niggler> so I'm wondering what String.fromCharCode(0xF8FF) looks like on windows
<devyn> # NOTE: The graphic image associated with the Apple logo character
<devyn> # is not authorized for use without permission of Apple, and
<devyn> # unauthorized use might constitute trademark infringement.
<devyn> it probably looks like an unrecognized char mark
<devyn> it's in the Unicode Private Use range
<devyn> which means it depends on font
<devyn> can be used for anything
<niggler> yeah it pisses me off
<devyn> lol, why?
<purr> lol
<niggler> it exists to piss me off, just like the damn arabic percent sign
<niggler> long story short: i need to figure out how to parse strings under various codepage encodings
<niggler> the whole concept of excel for windows/mac is an afterthought when it comes to compatibility because excel for mac defaults to code page 10000, which is the mac roman that i linked to
<niggler> so =CODE(240) looks really weird in windows excel
<niggler> but the worst codepage by far is the one arabic codepage that replaced % with ٪
<niggler> and because of that, you can't assume that the ASCII segment of the codepages are [reserved
<devyn> pre-unicode encodings are a bitch
<devyn> hence, unicode
<niggler> some of us still have to deal with those pre-unicode encodings
<devyn> including me
<devyn> luckily the extent of it is ISO8859-1
<devyn> which is relatively sane
<niggler> ACTUALLH
<niggler> fucking mozilla
<niggler> so there are some arcane codepages like 708
<niggler> ASMO-708 Arabic
<devyn> what the fuck
<niggler> and there's a "bug" insofar as mozilla software (firefox, mozilla, thunderbird etc) alias it to the ISO-8859-6 arabic codepage
<niggler> but they aren't the same
<niggler> like, the only thing that ASMO-708 and ISO-8859-6 share is the fact that they are both "arabic"
<niggler> *their names contain the word arabic
<devyn> mm
<niggler> so I'm debating whether to "fix firefox" or "make a hack for FF" or "ignore FF"
<niggler> and honestly, i don't know how deep the problem is (with regards to other inconsistent codepage treatments), so I'm tempted to fuck FF entirely
<niggler> and the fact that it's not the most popular or even second most popular browser makes the decision somewhat easy
<devyn> well, report it anyway
<purr> <elliottcable> anything ending in a period, basically
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<purr> <purr> !vehicles
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> 'allo, all
<ELLIOTTCABLE> hey, othiym23. Sorry that I didn't get back in here, yesterday.
<purr> <alexgordon> joelteon: you might be high, but you're not THAT high
<othiym23> no problem, I was kind of an exhausted wreck yesterday anyway
<ELLIOTTCABLE> othiym23: riiiight!?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Not feeling as refreshed today as I'd hoped to.
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> cuttle: you awake?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yrashk: who's t_sl…?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yrashk: yrashk yrashk yryr
<ELLIOTTCABLE> aw;krjoitaoite
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'm really, really not getting all that much out of RealtimeConf, in terms of tech.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> the biggest deal was finding out A) that WebRTC exists (HOW DID I FUCKING MISS THIS THIS HAS SUCH INSANELY HUGE IMPLICATIONS FOR MY DISTRIBUTION PLANS WITH PAWS),
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and B) that XMPP is coming back onto the scene, in a big way. Which is relieving, and happy-making, and I'm so, so, so for.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but that's, like, information I could have discovered from one well-placed blog-post in my Twitter stream. /=
<ELLIOTTCABLE> so, basically,
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I paid $600 a head for Chelsea and myself, more for tickets and hotel and dinners,
<ELLIOTTCABLE> for a two-day hard-core ARG experience.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and, it was insanely totally worth the money, and my time.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> just, sayin'. Unexpected.
<yrashk> ELLIOTTCABLE: lol
<purr> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> hi, yrashk
<yrashk> hi ELLIOTTCABLE
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yrashk: I'm so sad that I missed out on ErlangFactoryLite in chitown
<ELLIOTTCABLE> realtalk, though:
<ELLIOTTCABLE> getting tired of Erlangers being the new Lisp nuts.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> a *lot* of Erlang people, at least those of them that land on my radar, seem to be really One True Language about the whole thing. Which you know well, pisses me off.
<yrashk> ELLIOTTCABLE: can I piss you off?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> sure, hit me
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'm always down to argue ;)
<yrashk> Erlang is the One True Language
* ELLIOTTCABLE slaps yrashk
<yrashk> that's not an argument
<yrashk> truth to be said, though, escaping the gravitation of Erlang is hard
<yrashk> you go out and explore and find some really weird stupid shit in other languages
<yrashk> and you're like, fuck it
* ELLIOTTCABLE shrugs
<purr> ¯\(º_o)/¯
<ELLIOTTCABLE> and that's fine.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I've got no arguments, or beliefs, against a *home language*.
<yrashk> like this whole random case selection in Go
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I love Ruby. And unfortunately, I love JavaScript.
<yrashk> I am happy my home language is Elixir
<yrashk> I am always curious and on the lookout, tho
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<yrashk> that's why I kept reading up on Go
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but yeah. Elixir has me a bit excited.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> shutup sephr.
<yrashk> because many people seem to be excited about it
<yrashk> but I couldn't understand why
<yrashk> and still can't
<yrashk> but I geuss after 12 years of exposure to Erlang, it is indeed hard for me to evaluate other platforms
<yrashk> I know it well, I think in its terms, etc.
<yrashk> also being part of elixir core dev team, helps understanding elixir quite well
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> yrashk: hi.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yrashk: sorry, intermission. was talking to tristan. (=
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<alexgordon> hi ELLIOTTCABLE
<yrashk> ELLIOTTCABLE: lol
<purr> lol
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<purr> <elliottcable> If you think anything important came out of Linus fucking around in his garage, then you’re naïve.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> 'allo
<ELLIOTTCABLE> lunchtiem
<ELLIOTTCABLE> that one time, with the three-michelin-star restaurants and Jesse Pinkman at Realtime.
<gkatsev> realtimeconf is always crazy. Looks like this year it's even crazier.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> gkatsev: oyeeep.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> gkatsev: you've been?
<gkatsev> nope. My bro went last year? or the year before or w/e it was.
<gkatsev> I should go, though.
* ELLIOTTCABLE nods
<ELLIOTTCABLE> you have a brother? that's techie?
<gkatsev> yep
<gkatsev> he's in a startup in palo alto or something
<gkatsev> maybe I'll go next year. Though, idk whether I can ask work to pay for multiple conferences a year.
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* gkatsev is rewatching Top Gun after that Archer trailer.
<gkatsev> ELLIOTTCABLE: btw, what were the meatgrinders for?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> heheheh
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'll be tweeting a summary later (=
<gkatsev> heh
<gkatsev> as cool as livestreams are, I don't feel like watching it since I'm not there.
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<whitequark> what was that comment about linus and his garage about?..
<ELLIOTTCABLE> whitequark: hm?
<gkatsev> purr's quote
<ELLIOTTCABLE> can't remember the context; pretty sure it was about how linus's work wasn't important, not really
<ELLIOTTCABLE> believe it was on the theme of first-follower-ism, open-source, contributions, critical mass, etc etc etc.
<whitequark> interesting
<whitequark> was it not?
<whitequark> or, better: what do you deem to be "linus' work"?
<purr> <alexgordon> Judofyr: don't worry, micahjohnston is practically in kindergarten
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<cuttle> ELLIOTTCABLE: hi
<alexgordon> cuttle: hi
<cuttle> alexgordon: hi
<alexgordon> cuttle: looking at investments
<alexgordon> man this is depressing
<ELLIOTTCABLE> cuttle: o7
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon: why?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> cuttle: Realtime Conference is amazing.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> go watch the livestream nao.
<cuttle> aight
<cuttle> <3 velvet underground
<purr> Let it be known that cuttle hearts velvet underground.
<cuttle> <3 mano negra
<purr> Let it be known that cuttle hearts mano negra.
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: when I see headlines like "S&P at record high" I think that now is not a good time to be buying anything
* ELLIOTTCABLE laughs
<ELLIOTTCABLE> that's not how it works. ('=
<ELLIOTTCABLE> hi, alexgordon
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'm terribly ill-feeling. Come give me a hug.
<cuttle> ELLIOTTCABLE: i'm also sick
<cuttle> sick-friends
<cuttle> have been sick for like, a month
* alexgordon dons a HAZMAT
* alexgordon hugs ELLIOTTCABLE
<cuttle> then got a flu shot yesterday
<cuttle> and felt even sicker
* alexgordon hugs cuttle
* cuttle hugs alexgordon
* alexgordon takes off HAZMAT
<cuttle> haha
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: why does it not work like that?
<cuttle> ELLIOTTCABLE: how does it work?
<cuttle> yeah
<alexgordon> usually record highs are followed by misery
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ask later trying to listen to @domeeneinictarr
<ELLIOTTCABLE> bbl <3
* cuttle listens too
<cuttle> ELLIOTTCABLE: it's just playing music
<alexgordon> anyway I built a new python script to test things out
<cuttle> haha
<alexgordon> I've decided on 14 etfs
<alexgordon> which give a broad sample of the market, but allow me to tune out areas I don't want
<alexgordon> then I tried weighting them by their resilience to the 2008/2009 crash
<rf> anyone in here use pixate? looking for opinions on it
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I FEEL HORRIBLE. ಠ_ಠ
<ELLIOTTCABLE> who's rf?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> oh gods, alexgordon is getting into predictive financial analysis?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> just say no. just say no.
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: no?
<alexgordon> what makes you say that
<rf> russfrank bro
<rf> new name
<rf> github.com/rf
<rf> sup
<ELLIOTTCABLE> wow. hi.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> bbl. so very sick.
<cuttle> :c
<cuttle> rf: they have a pretty website
<cuttle> that's my analysis