<devyn>
I thought this said "water supply agreement" at first
<devyn>
why would AMD supply water to GF...
<devyn>
oh
<devyn>
:p
<eligrey>
[song continues indistinctly]
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
GF?
<eligrey>
lies netflix
<eligrey>
i can hear the lyrics fine
<devyn>
GLOBALFOUNDRIES
<devyn>
they're all caps, like you ELLIOTTCABLE
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
omg we should be friends
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
♪ Handel's Violin in B flat
<purr>
ELLIOTTCABLE: Song not found. ):
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
you're a dick purr, a dickey dick
<glowcoil>
a dickey dick
<glowcoil>
more like Unidumb
<devyn>
oh come on, Unidan's great
<devyn>
he explains the things he knows about with such enthusiasm
<devyn>
and he seems to be very good at what he does
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<ELLIOTTCABLE>
glowcoil: hello
<glowcoil>
ELLIOTTCABLE: hello
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<glowcoil>
:o::Oo:O::o;OO;o:Oo;:O
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
working on Paws.js a little, before leaving to clean my house
<glowcoil>
:o:O:OO:;oo'
<glowcoil>
cool
<glowcoil>
gona
<glowcoil>
xplode
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
glowcoil: bignic?
<glowcoil>
glowcoil: ?
<glowcoil>
ELLIOTTCABLE: ?
<glowcoil>
i follow him and maybe listened to his tunes one time
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
ah? really? I love 'em so much
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
i r a bad progrmr.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I dunno how tests. :x
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<devyn>
I wish I could do tests at work, but they don't really give me time to
<devyn>
and I don't think the time I would save would be quite worth it
<devyn>
but I haven't done a lot in the past
<devyn>
so maybe it would be
<devyn>
not enough experience with that
<devyn>
I'm definitely seeing just how useful it is now
<devyn>
it can be tough when starting a project
<devyn>
but by the time you're finishing and refactoring
<devyn>
it's like
<devyn>
omg
<devyn>
I need tests
<devyn>
:p
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<ELLIOTTCABLE>
devyn: hi
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
yes, I'm just, *bad* at testing some stuff.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
part of it is, I don't like purist-O.O., everything-is-an-object, nor purist-functional, approaches.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I *like* some measure of global-state, or centralized imperative code, when that's the appropriate approach
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and I'm *really* bad at properly testing that shit /=
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<purr>
<vil> "and ellio said LET THERE BE IRC"
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<prophile>
global centralised imperative code is never the appropriate approach
<glowcoil>
prophile: i would agree if all were designed with that mindset
<glowcoil>
prophile: all tools/libraries*
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<ELLIOTTCABLE>
prophile: disagree.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
of course, anybody who actually *likes* programming in Haskell, *would* say something like that.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
ಠ_ಠ
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
actually, on a related note:
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
to the, I am sure, shock of everyone present … my woes with testing patterns and shite recently are driving me to be *actually interested* in functional (well, declarative) programming. For the first time in my entire life, I'm looking forward to trying to learn it as an *actual tool*, instead of a curiosity. (For the static-analysis benefits, and the
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
pervasive strict-typing that seems to apply to that field.)
<prophile>
testable code is good code
<prophile>
or so I'm told
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<ELLIOTTCABLE>
@runarorama: Functional programming is "just another tool" in the sense that being honest is a technique in addition to just making things up.
* ELLIOTTCABLE
sighs
* ELLIOTTCABLE
headdesks
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
glowcoil: Suddenly, I'm not so convinced that the advent of functional programming is synonymous with an end to oases of thought.
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<purr>
<elliottcable> elliottcable can’t have popped his stack; elliottcable is a stackless implementation. elliottcable is pervasive fall-foward semantics.
<purr>
<elliottcable> If you think anything important came out of Linus fucking around in his garage, then you’re naïve.
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<purr>
<elliottcable> I must be drunk. I've spent the last N hours *styling my debugging output.*
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<glowcoil>
ELLIOTTCABLE: of course it's not; most people think of functional as imperative minus most statements and mutability
<glowcoil>
ELLIOTTCABLE: and i'm also not as obsessive about there being entirely separate oases as i used to be
<glowcoil>
ELLIOTTCABLE: i think i insisted too hard with too few concrete examples
<glowcoil>
ELLIOTTCABLE: but i do believe we can do a lot of cool things in the realm of paws and reactive stuff so
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<purr>
<eboy> no one older than 34's name is devin
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<purr>
<ELLIOTTCABLE> my period moved D:
<whitequark>
ELLIOTTCABLE: oh god please stop using "strict typing"
<whitequark>
you keep using that word, it doesn't mean what you think it means