whitequark changed the topic of #glasgow to: glasgow debug tool · code https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/Glasgow · logs https://freenode.irclog.whitequark.org/glasgow
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<whitequark> electronic_eel: i am wondering if maybe the right thing to do is to thermally couple the polyfuse to the FETs
<whitequark> it would need to be qualified of course, but the nominal characteristics of polyfuses are more like advisory anyway
<whitequark> i am also thinking that we'd need to "pre-trip" all of them at the factory due to the fact that polyfuses don't return to their original resistance...
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<electronic_eel> whitequark: using a thermally coupled polyfuse instead of the resistor between the depletion fets would indeed help
<electronic_eel> but unfortunately most smd polyfuses end at 60Vmax
<electronic_eel> but still doing a proper thermally coupling at >100°C won't be easy
<electronic_eel> I think we should concentrate on the +-30V protection first
<electronic_eel> that seems to be an reasonable goal to me
<electronic_eel> If that works in a reliable way we can take the experience from that and try to reach higher voltages
<tnt> oh, just found out that you can have a virtual hcd on linux where you can 'virtually plugin' gadgets implemented in user space. So I could have glasgow code create a gadget so it 'appears' as any kind of device to the host :)
<tnt> (so it could appear as a ftdi or anykind of device I want to emulate without having to chnage the fx2)
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<electronic_eel> wasn't whitequark planning to emulate the ftdi MPSSE? the virtual hcd could be used for that
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<whitequark> electronic_eel: that was the original rationale of the project
<whitequark> but let's face it, mpsse sucks
<electronic_eel> mpsse sucks. But it is supported in a ton of other projects, like OpenOCD, Black Magic Probe, avrdude,...
<electronic_eel> native Glasgow support for all these would be much better of course
<electronic_eel> but it is a lot to develop and get upstream
<electronic_eel> mpsse could serve as a stopgap solution
<whitequark> i'm not sure if we need avrdude anymore
<electronic_eel> there are a lot of different protocols for flashing avrs
<electronic_eel> i think avrdude supports most or all of them
<electronic_eel> is there already native support for them in Glasgow?
<whitequark> ah, i thought avrdude only does the SPI and JTAG protocols
<whitequark> AVR SPI is pretty much done in glasgow and i'll make UPDI work soon i think
<electronic_eel> i'm not sure if they are all supported with mpsse
<whitequark> ah, indeed
<electronic_eel> i think for updi you need an external avr doing some translation
<whitequark> updi is based on a serial port...
<whitequark> dunno, maybe it doesn't fit into ftdi
<electronic_eel> or the developer doing the implementation didn't have an ftdi at hand
<electronic_eel> or thought mpsse sucks...
<electronic_eel> next addon board idea: high voltage programming interface for avr, pic, old eeproms,...
<electronic_eel> eproms
<electronic_eel> would be fun to get working, non-faked samples of all the different old eprom models though
<electronic_eel> I should stop having addon board ideas
<whitequark> heh
<whitequark> yeah, those would be useful
<gruetzkopf> i need to reprogram like 80 i8748 soonish
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