<whitequark>
ohh, glasgow-with-nmigen actually works
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<tnt>
davidc__: on the topic of assembly, just assembled 4 simple boards (15 BOM lines, 50 placements) took me 5 hours ... (and even then one of them is ... weird).
<tnt>
whitequark: oh so you finally found the lockup issue ?
<davidc__>
tnt: thats fairly slow. I usually do my soldering under a microscope (which speeds things up dramatically), and I have some software for an assembly display (place this next, place this next....)
<davidc__>
though IIRC someone wrote + released a much nicer version of the same tool recently, so I won't link to mine
<tnt>
yeah, that was using a microscope and the kicad interactive bom thing.
<tnt>
But it did include everything from the moment I basically left the couch to the moment I sat down again, so prep & cleanup and the bit of rework after assembly.
<davidc__>
I dunno. I can usually place an 0402 in about 20seconds amortized.. or better if there are a bunch in the same area
<davidc__>
(blob one pad on each side of the 0402, grab 0402 + tack into blob, solder other side of 0402, touch up first connection with a bit of flux)
<tnt>
oh this was stencil. So apply paste, place, reflow.
<tnt>
but yeah, I guess I'm just slow at placing stuff ...
<davidc__>
I find stencil slower TBH; with bumping one side you always have a physical reference to move something up against, and no paste to worry about smushing
<davidc__>
whereas with paste; you need to be really careful not to smear the paste which means you can't rest your hands/tweezers on the board