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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet force-pushed feat/mss-mux from 2474247 to ef34768: http://git.io/vtN3H
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/mss-mux ef34768 Jeromy: using multistream muxer...
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<kbala> hey lgierth is it possible to make prometheus graph something other than a time series? like maybe a histogram of some label vs some gauge?
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<lgierth> kbala: as in 50th, 75th, 99th?
<whyrusleeping> jbenet: want me to work on that bitswap dashboard i was thinking about?
<lgierth> kbala: if so, yes
<kbala> lgierth: i mean like if i have a file_time_ms gaugevec with a latency label, can i make a histogram where the different latency labels make the x axis and sums of the times for each latency is the y axis?
<lgierth> oh i see. that's a good question
<kbala> lgierth: sorry thats confusing, i guess what i'm asking is how can i see the relationship between a metric and a label it has
<jbenet> whyrusleeping: https://github.com/yaronn/blessed-contrib ? we could also do this with node: https://github.com/mafintosh/clivas (very simple + straightfwd)
<lgierth> blessed is so nice
<whyrusleeping> jbenet: that looks pretty neat
<lgierth> kbala: maybe this is helpful: http://prometheus.io/docs/practices/histograms/
<kbala> jbenet: yea
<jbenet> whyrusleeping: blessed-contrib is sweet.
<lgierth> that might still be over a timeseries
<kbala> lgierth: yeah it is
<jbenet> hey kbala read up on the scrollback, want to dump an update here on irc of last week?
<lgierth> kbala: btw prometheus is easy to run locally
<kbala> jbenet my bad i always miss this
<kbala> lgierth yeah i have it running its really nice
<kbala> sprint checkin: i integrated the netsim transport stuff into mocknet streams and added prometheus metrics to bssim
<lgierth> oh cool, so we could aggregate them at metrics.ipfs.io too i guess
<kbala> so you can now see time series of basic stuff like block times and # of duplicate blocks as the simulation is running
<kbala> and you can specify latency/bandwidth per link if you want instead of it being the same for all connections
<kbala> jbenet: sorry i messed up my git beyond comprehension and i think a force push closed the latency/bandwidth issue
<kbala> *PR not issue
<jbenet> lgierth: could we do metrics.i.ipfs.io ? (want to keep all infra stuff under .i.ipfs.io because we may have to use subdomains for other things later on
<jbenet> lgierth can also use another domain if the subdomains are annoying
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<jbenet> ipfs-dev.io or something
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<lgierth> ah i. = infrastructure
<lgierth> obviously :S
<lgierth> i was thinking inventory :P
<lgierth> yep metrics.i. is fine
<jbenet> inventory is a good guess too
<jbenet> but then i may want to put jupiter into my napsack, which may be a bit too heavy to carry.
<lgierth> :)
<lgierth> btw, all these $bird.i.ipfs.io domains are dead right?
<lgierth> emu was the last existing droplet
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<zignig> jupiter's radius , 69,911 km
<zignig> I think you'll need a bigger napsack.
<zignig> :)
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<jbenet> lgierth: yeah we ate the birds.
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<kbala> jbenet: do you still have time to talk today?
<jbenet> hey kbala yep
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<kbala> jbenet: great i'm free whenever, when would you like to talk?
<jbenet> kbala: ok lets talk in 15
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<whyrusleeping> i need a nice 'todo queue'
<whyrusleeping> where people can easily assign things to me
<whyrusleeping> and i can check them off
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<jbenet> whyrusleeping yeah i want that too. fork github.com/jbenet/todo
<jbenet> also do use ito/
<whyrusleeping> yeah, thats closer to what i want
<whyrusleeping> its just harder than i want it to be to use
<lgierth> trello board where anyone can make you cards
<lgierth> mh we could have a bot for that
<lgierth> TODO whyrusleeping if you could [...], that would be great
<whyrusleeping> oooOoo, we *could* have a bot for that
<whyrusleeping> i like that much better...
<whyrusleeping> jbenet: ignore the trello invite
<lgierth> :]
<lgierth> thatwouldbegreat.jpg
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* zignig thinks astralboot is almost ready for alpha
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<whyrusleeping> zignig: i havent run it yet because i'm without my own network
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<zignig> whyrusleeping: yeah... that would help.
<zignig> single laptop ?
<whyrusleeping> zignig: yeap, for now. and if i mess with my networks dhcp, my roommates are liable to be upset
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<zignig> or you could auto image their machines into coreos by mistake .... ;)
<kbala> jbenet ready?
<jbenet> kbala: yeah sorry
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<jbenet> whyrusleeping want to take a look at debugging https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/1448 ?
<jbenet> it's code that you ought to be aware of anyway
<whyrusleeping> okay
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet closed pull request #1438: WIP: using multistream muxer (dev0.4.0...feat/mss-mux) http://git.io/vtN09
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/vq4sw
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 541836c rht: Auto-assert setconfig value to predefined struct...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 6c092eb Juan Batiz-Benet: Merge pull request #1440 from rht/fix-cli...
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<daviddias> whyrusleeping once the socket is open, you open streams from both sides with no problem, right?
<daviddias> (with spdystream)
<rht__> pre-sprint check in: processLink gc incoming (but then can't be sure if this addresses the bulk of the mem leak issue, if there is any)
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vq4Cp
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master f6f9cae Juan Batiz-Benet: Merge pull request #1449 from ipfs/tk/file-ls-help-fixup...
<jbenet> rht__ sounds good
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<whyrusleeping> daviddias: yes. that is correct
<daviddias> thanks, need to make sure I wasn't seeing it wrong
<whyrusleeping> yeap! no problemo
<Leer10> the community here is so awesome :)
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<jbenet> whyrusleeping: the odd thing about that is this: https://github.com/zrm/snow/graphs/contributors
<jbenet> it got picked up randomly
<jbenet> zrm's anonymous, too.
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<jbenet> do we know who this is?
<jbenet> thanks Leer10 :)
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<alu> deepdream is killing my computer
<alu> It's almost time to build a PC just for neural networks / VR
<gatesvp> @jbenet I updated the PR here....https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/1448... tried building a new "test" with your logic and it all worked out for me.
<jbenet> hey gatesvp -- saw, just ran on osx. still there, let me test on linux
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<gatesvp> @jbenet great daemon on vs. off? OK that's still weird to me... why would they behave differently?
<gatesvp> It looks like `sharness` runs with the daemon on?
<jbenet> gatesvp and it still passes?
<jbenet> gatesvp but i think that the sharness daemon happens is inited in the same directory, so it may be catching the parent `.ipfsignore` ?
<jbenet> (gatesvp, i may be wrong)
<gatesvp> The PR passed the Travis CI build.... and it does have a line launching the daemon... but it's probably in the same folder: https://github.com/gatesvp/go-ipfs/blob/master/test/sharness/t0040-add-and-cat.sh
<jbenet> gatesvp maybe we can try making those tests go into a different dir.
<jbenet> gatesvp btw, i think these tests merit their own "t0XXX-ipfsignore.sh" test file
<jbenet> (gatesvp i can make that change for you)
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<gatesvp> @jbenet: agreed on adding the new file... I was already pondering that so that I could create a more "crazy" structure to test with
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<gatesvp> @jbenet, so there are three "phases" of .ipfsignore files. (1) search the ConfigRoot (2) search the parents of an actively added folder (3) search the individual folders as we add them.
<gatesvp> moving (1) to the PreRun phase seems pretty trivial... (3) doesn't need to move, it's really just (2) that's a little dicey
<jbenet> gatesvp yeah
<jbenet> gatesvp also this way we avoid sending those files over the wire, too, which may be important for massive things
<jbenet> (like i ignore a 10TB file
<jbenet> hey whyrusleeping are you around?
<jbenet> thought we'd split the blocks changes into their own PR before full GC?
<gatesvp> @jbenet: the problem with (2) is that it's currently being called within the `for` loop where we are looping through the files i.e: (ipfs add a b)
<gatesvp> @jbenet: I guess I can resolve the ignores in advance, but then I need to transfer them from PreRun to Run and I'm not clear that I can patch variables between the two... will have to dig into the underlying code there
<jbenet> @gatesvp why do they need to be transferred to Run?
<jbenet> @gatesvp: couldn't it be done jus in PreRun, and the files that Run gets are already filtered out?
<gatesvp> or I have to find a way to resolve the Absolute path at the right place so that I'm not relative to the Daemon...
<jbenet> gatesvp i think the change to cmdslib to add an os.Walk equivalent that we can use to filer may be the right thing -- https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/1448#discussion_r34009056
<jbenet> gatesvp no-- the daemon may be in another machine :)
<jbenet> \o/ yaaaay \o/
<jbenet> gatesvp-- let me take a look at cmdslin
<gatesvp> great... I see where you are coming from. OK I am an hour ahead and need to sleep/think about this a little....
<gatesvp> I would like to point out that this ticket was tagged as easy ;) https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/653
<gatesvp> I totally agree that pre-filtering does make sense, but it changes a lot of code
<jbenet> gatesvp i am so sorry about that tag
<jbenet> gatesvp thank you for pushing on this so hard and sorry it's been this absurdly annoying
<gatesvp> @jbenet... I've been having lots of fun with it, don't get me wrong :)
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<gatesvp> So yeah... right now we're just in a weird spot where "filtering files" and "adding files to DAG" are all tangled up
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<gatesvp> From a CLI perspective it all makes sense... from a code perspective I can see these breaking out into a pair of libs
<gatesvp> All right, night all TTYS :)
<jbenet> gatesvp night! o/
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<gendale__> hey we have a user having issues propagating his first seed
<gendale__> is there a setting to limit the number of DHT connections?
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<cryptix> hey ppl
<zignig> o/
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<jbenet> cryptix: daviddias and i are at a german embassy
<jbenet> sort of
<cryptix> jbenet: lol wat? lemme guess: big beer brewery
<jbenet> exactly, weeeell a bar
<jbenet> german beer garden thing
<jbenet> with good beer, good brat/hamburgers and good wifi.
<jbenet> the only thing missing is club mate
<daviddias> sehr gut!
<cryptix> yea.. beergarden culture will need some more time until they serve mate.. :)
<cryptix> i envy you guys.. just came into the institute and the windows were closed at least since friday *gasp*
<jbenet> well they played rap, so the BFS cant be too far now
<cryptix> hehe
<cryptix> i need to downplay it.. i want bratwurst meow..!
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<ehd> i have an ipns question. would propagation of new values work well even if updated frequently (say, every minute)?
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<jbenet> ehd: it will -- but not yet
<jbenet> give us a couple weeks or so
<ehd> cool! we've been looking for a mechanism to push branch heads. we're going to rely on a side channel for now
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<whyrusleeping> i really think we need to extract our p2p networking library
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: i'm with you
<whyrusleeping> lgierth: i think a lot of people might use it
<whyrusleeping> a secure connection to any peer on the planet by simply having their public key?
<whyrusleeping> sign me up
<lgierth> :)
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: let me spec out a bit of the cjdns stuff this week
<lgierth> gotta run
<lgierth> i spent all day in court and have a couple errands to run
<whyrusleeping> court? scary
<lgierth> no worries i got an accuittal
<lgierth> if that's how it's spelled
<lgierth> and that's really not easy to get with 3 cops testifying against you!
<whyrusleeping> dayumn. well, congrats?
<lgierth> yep :)
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feat/mark-n-sweep from 011ac6b to 7580503: http://git.io/vtNpa
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/mark-n-sweep de6cb97 Jeromy: implement mark and sweep GC, remove indirect pinning...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/mark-n-sweep 577c272 Jeromy: dont GC blocks used by pinner...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/mark-n-sweep fba7a20 Jeromy: comment GC algo...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created locking-blockstore (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vqE3y
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/locking-blockstore f008ce5 Jeromy: Add locking interface to blockstore...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #1453: Add locking interface to blockstore (dev0.4.0...locking-blockstore) http://git.io/vqECC
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to locking-blockstore: http://git.io/vqECa
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/locking-blockstore 18688a2 Jeromy: merkledag FetchGraph and EnumerateChildren...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feat/mark-n-sweep from 7580503 to 9202d50: http://git.io/vtNpa
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/mark-n-sweep 9202d50 Jeromy: implement mark and sweep GC...
* whyrusleeping puts his git machete away and takes a sip of coffee
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<atrapado> buenas
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<whyrusleeping> atrapado: hey there!
<atrapado> hey. i thought it would send 'buenas' only to all channels of the other network...
<whyrusleeping> lol
<atrapado> :)
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<ThomasWaldmann> jbenet: did you ever consider strange legal situations in some countries where downloading some content is legal, but not redistributing/serving it to others?
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<PayasR> ipfs is completely decentralised and stores no data about any file except perhaps the hashes. Those too are distributed. in such cases i believe the user is responsible for the data he downloads/uploads.
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<whyrusleeping> daviddias: Qmd1usDGx7zDU5zq3M4WQft6ENVQJtzc8XNYy4qzPEgKWE
<sprintbot> Sprint Checkin! [whyrusleeping jbenet cryptix wking lgierth krl kbala_ rht__ daviddias dPow chriscool gatesvp]
<fd0> what's sprintbot?
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<whyrusleeping> fd0: sprintbot is a bot that reminds contributors to give a daily update about what theyre working on
<fd0> ok
<whyrusleeping> sprintbot: split up the GC PR into two separate PRs, wrote some tests for go-datastore batching, and now i'm working on debugging daviddias not being able to cat a file between our machines.
<thefinn93> whyrusleeping: hey, mind if we push meeting up till Wednesday evening?
<thefinn93> realized that'd work much better
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created bitswap-events (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vquMk
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/bitswap-events ff1bf30 Jeromy: add in some events to bitswap to emit worker information...
<jbenet> sprintbot: pushed first iteration of records, working on record chain and signed records. And CR
<whyrusleeping> thefinn93: sure, when-ish wednesday?
<thefinn93> idk, like 6 or 7?
<thefinn93> i figured i could take off at like 5:30-6:30
<thefinn93> and head generally downtown
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #1455: add in some events to bitswap to emit worker information (master...bitswap-events) http://git.io/vqu9e
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<jbenet> thefinn93 that sgtm.
<thefinn93> cool
<thefinn93> want me to PM one of you my phone number for easier offline communication?
<thefinn93> I'm fine with using IRC for everything but i know not everyone has it on their phone
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<jbenet> thefinn93 i have IRC on my phone :) but i PMed my # anyway
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet closed pull request #1455: add in some events to bitswap to emit worker information (master...bitswap-events) http://git.io/vqu9e
<lgierth> sprintbot: slightly refactoring gateway nginx stuff out of neccessity, not much today apart from that. added h.gateway.ipfs.io domain for cjdns/hyperboria
<jbenet> whyrusleeping some randomness
<jbenet> /ipfs/QmRA3tphz7mmz1pEKG6ENdJbGPVstKWhJPq7gUWx9kVxsP/128MB
<daviddias> sprintbot: swarm goodness, not major achiev yet, got a bit blocked by spdy-transport error, things are good now :)
<demize> That reminds me, I should set up cjdns on me server again.
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<whyrusleeping> daviddias: QmSkRSZMG9zzBdj1Cr5dsdD17m3tDnKkZztxJ4EuUWixDr
<whyrusleeping> daviddias: QmSBmQFpzdj3N6P6JLiHrx6fcLcspQ83xT5Tej8Zt6AHSL
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<lgierth> demize: let me know if you want peering, or any other assistance
<bret> whyrusleeping: what are those hashes?
<thefinn93> jbenet: cool
<demize> lgierth: Thanks for the offer. May I ask where your node(s) are connected? :)
<demize> Erhm, that was weirdly phrased of me. I meant located, of course.
<whyrusleeping> bret: debugging stuff with david. its just random binary data
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<demize> (My server theos is located in London, and sadly I don't have any regular internet connection at home, for the moment at least)
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<pfraze> ogd: why does he say webrtc doesnt exist?
<ogd> pfraze: quic + data channels arent integrated yet is waht he was saying
<pfraze> ah
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<pfraze> ogd: do you know if the 0 RTT connection establishment is a session resumption?