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<fiatjaf> why am I getting errors related to webcrypto.subtle being undefined in js-ipfs?
<fiatjaf> only in some browsers
<fiatjaf> and considering that my script was working in these same browsers 2 hours before?
<fiatjaf> oh, it only works in https pages
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<fiatjaf> also, loads are happening instantaneously now
<fiatjaf> the problem was that I was trying to load too much stuff simultaneously, that was probably consuming the entire memory and making everything bad
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<wany> hello everyone
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<wany> is anyone here
<JCaesar> No.
<swedneck[m]> nope
<JCaesar> (In case you have a question: ask. don't ask to ask. and then wait and pray.)
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<wany> I use the js-ipfs-api to connect with my local go-ipfs .I can't call function ipfs.key.list()
<deltab> what happens when you try?
<wany> TypeError: ipfs.key is undefined
<deltab> what does console.log(ipfs); show?
<wany> I cant see function 'key' in console.log(ipfs);
<deltab> what do you see?
<deltab> block, dag, files, repo, etc.?
<wany> yeah
<deltab> which version are you using?
<wany> buffer,add,bitswap...etc
<wany> I clone from github js-ipfs-api master
<deltab> does it list config, stats, log, repo?
<wany> Object { version: "0.4.17", commit: "acd4b38", repo: "7" }
<wany> Buffer: function Buffer()​ add: function createCallback() ​ bitswap: Object { wantlist: createCallback() , stat: createCallback(), unwant: createCallback() } ​ block: Object { get: createCallback() , stat: createCallback(), put: createCallback() } ​ bootstrap: Object { add: createCallback() , rm: createCallback(), list: createCallback() } ​ cat: function createCallback() ​ commands: function createCallback() ​ config: Obj
<wany> no stats
<deltab> sorry, I'm out of guesses. maybe add an issue at https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api/issues or ask at discuss.ipfs.io
<wany> ok,i will.thanks all the same
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<swedneck[m]> hmm, i opened js.ipfs.io and suddenly my ipfs node is going crazy with cpu usage
<swedneck[m]> anyone know why?
<swedneck[m]> and now it calmed back down
<swedneck[m]> oh wait i pinned it, ofc that'd cause cpu usage as it downloads it..
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<swedneck[m]> is there a better way of using ipfs from python than the os module?
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<makeworld[m]> There's an module for it
<makeworld[m]> py-ipfs-api
<makeworld[m]> Idk how good it is, but it is offcial
<makeworld[m]> swedneck: ^^
<swedneck[m]> i'll look into that, thanks
<carsonfarmer[m]> its quite nice swedneck. its just a wrapper around the api, so you need a local peer running, but it feels pretty 'pythonic' :)
<swedneck[m]> i wanna try making something orion like in pyGObject, so local node is fine
<swedneck[m]> in fact i'd want to interface with the local node anywas
<swedneck[m]> hmm, i ran `sudo pip install ipfsapi` but i'm getting "no module named ipfsapi"
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<swedneck[m]> i thought using pip3 instead since i use python 3 would work, but nope
<swedneck[m]> ah, i had to install with `--user`, that's what i get for not learning python properly
<carsonfarmer[m]> but pip3 should also work with that option
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<swedneck[m]> yeah i ran `pip3 install --user ipfsapi` and it worked
<swedneck[m]> i think i'll have to stick to just running shell commands, the documentation link is broken and i can't find the equivalents of things like `ipfs stats bw`
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<makeworld[m]> I made an issue a while back about the doc link being broken and they fixed it that day or something
<makeworld[m]> Make an issue and ask about it
<makeworld[m]> Or look at mine, maybe it helps
<swedneck[m]> already reported
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<shoku> Hey guys
<shoku> anyone going to the meetup in SF tomorrow?
<shoku> I'll be there :)
<shoku> Got a new version of our IPFS client for Windows. Source coming to Github soon
<shoku> One thing I've realized is that every time I share (and therefore pin) a file, it's going in my user/.ipfs folder, rather than sharing the file directly. That's gonna result in 2x storage every time I wanna share. Is there a way around that?
<swedneck[m]> --nocopy
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<fiatjaf> we want ipld nodes on mfs!
<whyrusleeping> FINE
<whyrusleeping> how do you want them to work?
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<jayjo> I'm was looking through the libtorrent python binding in order to learn more about the functionality of bittorrent. As an example project, I wanted to build a bulletin board service or a global chat room (or, a global database/global state?). I found that the bittorrent protocol has an extension "Storing arbitrary data in the DHT" - this extension enables storing and retrieving of arbitrary data in the
<jayjo> BitTorrent DHT http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0044.html but it seemed to be limited to a small number of bytes. Is this a problem that ipfs solves? Could I connect to the p2p network and view all posts, over the internet?
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<shoku> oh interesting. How does --nocopy work? It just refers to the original file in its path?
<shoku> (eg if I move it from the path, or delete it, it stops being served?)
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<deltab> jayjo: in way, yes: when you publish files and directories over ipfs, you get a fixed-size hash that you can post to a DHT, publish in DNS, send in a text message, tweet, or whatever
<deltab> so you could do that with the data for a bulletin board, database, etc. (and it's not limited to being structured as files)
<deltab> alternatively you can use the DHT for rendezvous, finding the network addresses of other participants in a chat room, connect to them, and send messages directly
<deltab> jayjo: look at e.g. OrbitDB https://github.com/orbitdb/orbit-db
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