stebalien changed the topic of #ipfs to: Heads Up: To talk, you need to register your nick! Announcements: go-ipfs 0.4.18 and js-ipfs 0.33 are out! Get them from dist.ipfs.io and npm respectively! | Also: #libp2p #ipfs-cluster #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://view.matrix.org/room/!yhqiEdqNjyPbxtUjzm:matrix.org/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of Con
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<lanzafame[m]2>
@mewtrino:matrix.org: yes very much so but not directly on ipfs these days, a lot of behind the scenes stuff and new projects and talks
<mewtrino>
聡中本
<mewtrino>
lanzafame: ah cool, where can I see the stuff they're working on?
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<postables[m]>
finally!!!! i have IPFS Cluster working over IPSec and it appears to be stable ❤
<postables[m]>
*edit:* ~~finally!!!! i have IPFS Cluster working over IPSec and it appears to be stable ❤~~ -> finally!!!! i have IPFS Cluster working over IPSec and it appears to be stable ❤ looks like it was a misconfigured DH group. Still a bit perplexed why i had it briefly working over port forwarding but then it failed to work. Might be a bit too soon to declare victory, however it's looking good
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<postables[m]>
any recommendations on an underlying filesystem for a badgerds ipfs repo? I'm thinking XFS
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<postables[m]>
*edit:* ~~any recommendations on an underlying filesystem for a badgerds ipfs repo? I'm thinking XFS~~ -> any recommendations on an underlying filesystem for a badgerds ipfs repo? I'm thinking XFS or BTRFS
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<postables[m]>
*edit:* ~~any recommendations on an underlying filesystem for a badgerds ipfs repo? I'm thinking XFS or BTRFS~~ -> any recommendations on an underlying filesystem for a badgerds ipfs repo? I'm thinking XFS or BTRFS. Well BTRFS is out since it doesn't support RAID5/6
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<TimMc>
Can someone explain the "generation attack" in the Filecoin paper? I don't understand why it would be a problem for someone who is storing your data to compress it down to a small generator program. If it can reproduce the data on demand, what's the problem?
<TimMc>
(I asked in #filecoin yesterday, but the room seems dead.)
<TimMc>
(Maybe I should ask again after the holidays are over.)
<TimMc>
"Malicious miners could claim to be storing a large amount of data which they are instead efficiently generating on-demand using a small program"
<TimMc>
The paper doesn't talk about compression specifically, but as I read it that would be one way of "generating" the data.
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<TimMc>
I can imagine someone saying "the data I'm storing with you contains N copies of an important file, and in case of corruption, I really want you to store N separate copies". But that's better done by sending all copies to different miners.
<TimMc>
Or maybe the paper is saying that by compressing the file, the miner is using less disk space than they claim. But who cares? They're storing the *data*, no matter how much space it takes up in practice.
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<fiatjaf>
I agree
<fiatjaf>
but perhaps they're thinking in terms of the 'CONSENSUS MECHANISM'
<fiatjaf>
people who store more data somehow have to have a greater participation block generation
<fiatjaf>
so storing files that are more compressable would give them an unfair advantage?
<fiatjaf>
but I'm just making this up
<fiatjaf>
it doesn't make sense anyway
<fiatjaf>
everything should be compressed anyway by default
<TimMc>
^
<fiatjaf>
and if someone comes up with a better compression algorithm that's a net gain
<TimMc>
After the block rewards are gone, there's still a financial gain for storing more data (and if compression is permitted, even more of a financial gain when compressible data is encountered).
<TimMc>
But... the people paying for data to be stored financially benefit from compressing it first. :-)
<TimMc>
It sort of doesn't matter, because the same thing that prevents "generation attacks" also prevents Sybil attacks, which are actually important from a data redundancy perspective.
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<mewtrino>
Assuming Sia didn't do the hardfork, is there any reason to use Filecoin over Siacoin?
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<fiatjaf>
mewtrino, Filecoin doesn't exist
<mewtrino>
Really?
<mewtrino>
Is it just a specification or something?