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<ferrouswheel> geoah, yeah - my clue was the far right column in the first diagram here https://github.com/ipld/specs/
<geoah> this structure seems be now in its own repo, `https://github.com/ipfs/go-merkledag/blob/master/pb/merkledag.proto`
<ferrouswheel> This isn't discussed in the document, so I assume that most of what is discussed in the IPLD spec has yet to become the default...
<geoah> you should be able to use this proto to decode the raw dag/objects add creates :/
<ferrouswheel> Cool thanks. that matches the message format I found elsewhere.
<geoah> there are references in the codebase for the unixfs but it seems to be under a different api
<postables[m]> ferrouswheel: care to share a link?
<ferrouswheel> This is the one I used for unixfs https://github.com/ipfs/go-unixfs/blob/master/pb/unixfs.proto
<ferrouswheel> postables[m], a link to parse raw blocks in python?
<postables[m]> oh no the message format youre talking about
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<geoah> adding something and gettings its dag results in a familiar structure
<geoah> ```{"data":"CAE=","links":[{"Name":"about","Size":1688,"Cid":{"/":"QmZTR5bcpQD7cFgTorqxZDYaew1Wqgfbd2ud9QqGPAkK2V"}},{"Name":"contact","Size":200,"Cid":{"/":"QmYCvbfNbCwFR45HiNP45rwJgvatpiW38D961L5qAhUM5Y"}},...```
<geoah> but it doesn't really look like the unixfs protobuf schema, which is weird.
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<postables[m]> that looks just merkledag lol
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<ferrouswheel> geoah, that looks like the merkledag protobuf message. I tried to parse the data "CAE=" with the unixfs proto definition...
<ferrouswheel> had to b64 decode first, but the output is: "Type: Directory"
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<deltab> ferrouswheel: yeah, it's a little bit of a mess. As I understand it ipfs started as just the filesystem, with data encoded using protobufs; then it was decided it should support general data structures, first as protobufs (the document you found) then as JSON (IPLD), with unixfs being reimplemented on top of that. But the definition of unixfs on ipld haven't quite solidified yet and so the implementations
<deltab> still use the old protobufs.
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<lordcirth> Kolonka[m], seba-- I would be interested in discussing a mutual pin system
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<moparisthebest> I want to run a gateway at /blog/ instead of /ipfs/ on my server, and have set the X-Ipfs-Gateway-Prefix header, and PathPrefixes in config, but it doesn't work, only 404 not found
<moparisthebest> is there a way to get more logging or otherwise debug this?
<moparisthebest> I tested by running: curl -H 'X-Ipfs-Gateway-Prefix: /blog' -v http://localhost:8080/blog/QmS4ustL54uo8FzR9455qaxZwuMiUhyvMcX9Ba8nUH4uVv/readme
<lanzafame1> moparisthebest: `ipfs log tail` gives you the firehose
<moparisthebest> hmm I don't see any gateway related messages in there
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<kungfooman[m]> i just wanted to ask, https is not supported? all examples i see are http
<kungfooman[m]> i thought about using ipfs as "cdn" for my https website
<kungfooman[m]> (a gaming forum with images and attachments etc.)
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<kungfooman[m]> oh, i found https links lol
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<seba-> kungfooman[m], https://plesko.si/test/
<seba-> lordcirth :> yay
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<kishansagathiya[> Is it possible to just get hash of a file without adding it to ipfs?
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<geoah> kishansagathiya[ I think it should be `ipfs add --hash-only`
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<kishansagathiya[> geoah: Yes, thank you
<geoah> hm `ipfs add --only-hash` sorry the other way around :D kishansagathiya[
<kishansagathiya[> no problem, I figured that out from help
<seba-> does anyone understand protobuf?
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<jamiew> seba-: what's your question?
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<seba-> i'm trying to decode the secio protobuf handshake jamiew
<seba-> but i don't understand fully the protobuf i think
<seba-> the first few bytes are
<seba-> 0000 017c 0a10
<seba-> that's in hex
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<seba-> i guess 10 is length 16, which is the nonce length
<seba-> but what's the rest?
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<seba-> http://seba.eu.org/private/secio.bin this is the whole handshake in binary
<seba-> well the begining of it, propose section:>
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<seba-> ok 0A = bytes, 1st field
<seba-> but what's 0000 017c i have no clue
<seba-> could be length
<seba-> yeah
<seba-> it's length of data
<seba-> ok
<seba-> thank you jamiew
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<jamiew> lol just re-reading – glad to help :)
<jamiew> i'm not too familiar with the actual binary encoding of protobuf so wouldn't be able to say; I would expect that to be well-documented though
<seba-> jamiew, the first 4 bytes i think are an IPFS thing
<seba-> not sure
<seba-> jamiew, i'm trying to document step by step with practical examples, how IPFS works at protocol level
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<whyrusleeping[m]> seba-: One thing worth noting is that everything in secio uses 'msgio'
<whyrusleeping[m]> which basically just length delimits every message
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<seba-> whyrusleeping, i see
<whyrusleeping> and that appears to be a bigendian uint32
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<seba-> whyrusleeping[m], i'm writing now the first post regarding secio
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<whyrusleeping> woo!
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<Unode> Q: From a security and privacy point of view, can a third party trace which peers have certain content?
<Unode> Q2: Is the concept of 'pinning' built into the protocol or a client-side feature only? That is, can other peers know which clients have a given content pinned?
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<geoah> Unode you can query the DHT for content if you have its id, peers who have content pinned will be advertising them constantly
<Unode> When I say content I mean chunks (parts or all of) of a given file/folder
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<Unode> geoah: so one could infer from the frequency of advertising who has what content pinned?
<seba-> hm
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<geoah> `ipfs dht findprovs xxx` where xxx is a cid will give you a number of peers who have it
<seba-> i don't think you can query a peer what do you have, but only do you have X (not 100% sure of this)
<seba-> neither if it has something pined
<geoah> you don't query the peer, you query the dht -- basically when you have something pinned you are a provider, and for other to be able to download a content, they must be able to find who provides it
<Unode> geoah: ok thanks. That means Q: yes, Q2: no but there's educated guessing
<geoah> when I add something, I pick a number of peers (by xor distance) and tell them I can provide this content -- when something wants to download this, they again pick a number of peers (again based on xor distance) and ask them "who provides this?"
<seba-> Q depends
<seba-> you can know what a peer has, like the whole list
<seba-> you have to query CIDs and you can find out what a peer has
<seba-> hm
<seba-> you could for example have a censored content list (for example if you are an evil coorp/government)
<seba-> and connect to each peer
<seba-> and query if they have this content and query their IP
<seba-> ^.^
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<geoah> Unode as for q2, pinning is a client thing, you can modify your client to not announce specific or any cids, but then others wouldn't be able to know that you have something to download from you
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<geoah> you could also modify the other side to explicitely ask your peer for the content -- and that would work
<seba-> yes it's just marking to garbage-collection that it shouldn't delete it
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<Swedneck> anyone know whether the python api is async?
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<ttttes13> Hello, how can I ensure a node is up in dht
<ttttes13> kad-dht
<ttttes13> given a peerID please?
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<whyrusleeping> ttttes13: What do you mean by 'up in dht' ?
<whyrusleeping> you can check if they are online by pinging them
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<whyrusleeping> you can check if they are discoverable by running `ipfs dht findpeer <peerID>`
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<Unode> geoah: I was going to ask if there's a stealth mode. I guess not announcing would be exactly that. Thanks for the info!
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<Swedneck> i found https://github.com/ipfs/py-ipfs-api/issues/59, does that mean it's kind of async currently?
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<postables[m]> Tbh I would just learn Golang
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<postables[m]> You can learn enough to work with the go-ipfs-api in under a day, and you'll have comparability with every single IPFS library
<Swedneck> except i want to make an IPFS bot for matrix
<postables[m]> Libp2p, multiformat, and ipld library
<Swedneck> and the framework i'm using is in python
<Swedneck> (maubot)
<postables[m]> Ah
<Swedneck> i tried to just use shell commands but doing that async in python is horrendous
<postables[m]> IMO async python is horrendous lol
<Swedneck> no i want to use maubot
<postables[m]> Ohh
<Swedneck> and i highly doubt i would be able to learn go before reaching the point where i slam my fist into my table and scream out of frustration
<postables[m]> One of the main design principles of Golang was to be easy enough for junior devs at Google to pick up quite quickly iirc
<postables[m]> It's a dead simple language
<Swedneck> eh
<Swedneck> but i can't use it with maubot anyways, so meh
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<postables[m]> Yea fair enough I just feel the need to shill Golang whenever possible 😂
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<Swedneck> heh
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<lordcirth> If I try to visit QmdgiZFqdzUGa7vAFycnA5Xv2mbcdHSsPQHsMyhpuzm9xb , which I found in my pin list, I get 'invalid ipfs path: selected encoding not supported'. If I try /ipns/QmdgiZFqdzUGa7vAFycnA5Xv2mbcdHSsPQHsMyhpuzm9xb, it times out. What am I doing wrong?
<lordcirth> doing 'ipfs dag get' and base64 decoding it gets me a very small html page
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<lordcirth> The title implies that IPFS is a searchable torrent tracker, rather than torrent paradise.
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