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<TimMc> It's said that the porn industry is one of the early adoptors of many technologies, but I wonder if piracy is a better example these days.
<TimMc> “Because each update of Torrent Paradise is an IPFS hash, it is impossible for anyone, including me, to take down the site. As long as there’s someone pinning it (the IPFS equivalent of seeding), the site will be available.”
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<TimMc> ...but without the main site accepting new torrents, and the operator pushing new hashes, it quickly becomes out of date.
<postables[m]> not sure, deepfakes shows how quickly porn takes over new technology, but IPFS doesn't really have any outstanding use cases for pornography, other than being used for general datastorage
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<Swedneck> not content delivery?
<postables[m]> good point actually
<Swedneck> i hope ipfs can get good enough to replace webtorrent for peertube soon
<postables[m]> When I was watching Brewster Kahle talk at devcon he showed a demo that internet archive has to stream videos using IPFS and webtorrent was pretty cool
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<Kolonka[m]> Clearly, TimMc, the Next Big Thing will assert itelf upto an even greater level
<Kolonka[m]> with porn piracy
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<alyoshaaa> Hi guys is there a channel for gx or something?
<seba--> gx?
<alyoshaaa> IPFS package manager for golang
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<alyoshaaa> I have some questions about it
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<melvster> hi all im killing the ipfs daemon on ubuntu but it keeps coming back and im unsure why -- is there a way to work out how to kill it for an hour or so?
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<melvster> binding to port 8080 is really killing my ability to work
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<melvster> im literally having to kill this process every 5 minutes, nothing i can do or find can seem to stop it
<melvster> so 10/10 for robustness
<melvster> but id love to know how to shut it down
<dichoto[m]> systemctl stop ipfs?
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<melvster> dichoto[m], thanks but
<melvster> Failed to stop ipfs.service: Unit ipfs.service not loaded.
<melvster> here's the issue it's not even a service
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<melvster> but keeps restarting itself
<melvster> i literally cant work out any way to stop it, ive tried moving the config file
<melvster> maybe delete .ipfs?
<melvster> didnt help
<melvster> ill try the forums, thanks for the tip
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<melvster> your response is actually helpful tho, indicates may be an issue on my side, will investigate more
<seba--> hm
<seba--> melvster, killall -9 ipfs ?
<seba--> thing is that IPFS when given a kill message
<seba--> won't quit
<seba--> it wants to gracefully quit, i.e. first finish tasks it started
<seba--> so you have to force kill it
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<dichoto[m]> check who spawn ipfs, ps -aef --forest | grep -B20 ipfs (something like that)
<dichoto[m]> check there is no suspucious script in your /etc/crond.d?
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<aarshkshah1992> Hi
<aarshkshah1992> I am using the go-ipfs-api to use the DagPut & DagGet functionalities
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<aarshkshah1992> How do I decode the DagGet response ?
<aarshkshah1992> func (s *Shell) DagGet(ref string, out interface{}) error {
<aarshkshah1992> return s.Request("dag/get", ref).Exec(context.Background(), out)
<aarshkshah1992> }
<aarshkshah1992> The Dag GET call is defined as above
<aarshkshah1992> What kind of interface does it need ? Can't find any examples in the repo too
<aarshkshah1992> :(
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<Starism[m]> Is there a tutorial on only running IPFS with local nodes? (different machines but same internet connection)
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<JCaesar> what would be different?
<seba--> Starism[m], it works just as well?
<Starism[m]> I do not want to wait 10 minutes for finding the file through online gateway
<seba--> you don't have to set up anything
<seba--> yeah
<seba--> add nodes to the bootstrap
<seba--> but i don't think it changes that much hm
<seba--> i think it's just inefficiently made, the search :'(
<seba--> aarshkshah1992, no idea :'( try on -dev?
<Starism[m]> I thought that, if you manually connected to a specific peer, you dont have to search the entire DHT for my file
<Starism[m]> if we are local
<seba--> even if you do, it works weird
<seba--> i'm not sure yet why
<aarshkshah1992> Is there a ipfs-dev channel ?
<seba--> i'm trying to understand the protocol
<seba--> aarshkshah1992, yes
<seba--> #ipfs-dev
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<Starism[m]> How do i add nodes to the bootstrap?
<ylp> Starism[m]: you need to edit the Bootstrap section of the configuration file to connect only to your local nodes
<ylp> otherwise you will share with the all network
<seba--> you can also do it with ipfs bootstrap * commands
<seba--> you just have to enter it in that /ipv4/... format
<seba--> :)
<seba--> you have to know the peerID, ip, port
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<Starism[m]> Out of curiosity, why does it take like 10-15 minutes to get a file from the gateway?
<Starism[m]> Like, is there a specific technical reason?
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<ylp> Starism[m]: it must retrieve blocks first if they are not in its cache
<ylp> and there is a bit of traffic on some of them
<ylp> it also depend how many other nodes can provide the requested blocks
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<Seb[m]1> IPFS_PATH=~/.ipfs ipfs bootstrap add /ip4/10.26.25.80/tcp/4001/ipfs/QmRQtCDaMD1odBveWQDAiQ1xN75QmyBh1hejo55jCxvHkF
<Seb[m]1> QmZ7utVaThaVqLLuGtEr7NTCb2tVtbiHZN9RRrDjwjwirD
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<DarkDrgn2k[m]> any node is bootstrap
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> what makes a node a bootstrap is that other nodes know about it
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> think of bootstrap as a peminent peer
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> perminent
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> ipfs connects to those nodes when it starts up to. and from there learns. about other nodes connected to it.
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<lordcirth> Is there a way to get the ipfs companion firefox plugin to connect to an IP other than localhost?
<lordcirth> nvrm found it
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<ylp> lordcirth: in the extension options you can set the gateway url
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<Starism[m]> Is there a way to ensure data is back upped on other peers?
<Starism[m]> I see that when i add a file, a peer must 'manually' get my file before my that file is backed up
<Starism[m]> Like a ruleset that says atleast 2 other peers must contain the new files i upload, such that if my node dies the information is still back upped?
<voker57> Starism[m]: nothing like that is build into ipfs
<voker57> if you want your data backed up, ask other nodes to back it up
<Starism[m]> How do i ask other nodes to back it up?
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<seba--> Starism[m], pinning services that's a way
<seba--> an another way is to request via http public gateways to download your file :>
<seba--> that's a hack
<seba--> Starism[m], you could make thou a new service, why not? :>
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<Starism[m]> pinning services... Hmm gotta read up on that
<Starism[m]> But, just because i pin a file doesnt mean it is distributed to other peers?
<Starism[m]> It just tells IPFS that this pinned file is important and should not be removed
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<Starism[m]> I want to have my files back upped on different peers immediatly when i upload
<Starism[m]> Ah Pinning services might be good... How do i make it happen? 😄
<ylp> never tested it...
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<seba--> Starism[m], they are for profit services
<seba--> i think filecoin is one
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<Starism[m]> aaah okay, like that i see. No thanks then :X
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<seba--> Starism[m], well you could make a script for cooperative pining
<seba--> or a service
<seba--> like that each user in it
<seba--> would give few GBs for it to colaborate
<seba--> and we would pin each other's stuff automatically
<Starism[m]> Yeah i probably want some sort of script utilisation
<seba--> pubsub would work nice for this hm i think :)
<seba--> but i don't think anyone has made this yet
<seba--> you could be the first ^.^
<pburton[m]> he IPFS All Hands On Call will start 9am PST on December 3rd, 2018. Join us live here https://protocol.zoom.us/j/443621844
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<geoah> /set weechat.look.eat_newline_glitch on
<geoah> ieeek ^ sorry for that -- damn weechat.
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<seba--> yeah right ^.^
<seba--> just showing off your new weechat
<geoah> @seba-- damnit you got me :P
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<Kolonka[m]> >and we would pin each other's stuff automatically
<Kolonka[m]> I've been thinking this problem over for a good few months now - I call it "2.3"
<Kolonka[m]> we could set up some kind of correspondence if you'd like to try and work out a good solution, seba-- Starism
<seba--> we could start on discuss.ipfs.io or well just here ^.^
<seba--> hm
<seba--> you could just use pubsub and subscribe somewhere, although i haven't dwelved into yet how it totally works
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<postables[m]> aarshksha1992: I have examples here that might help https://github.com/RTradeLtd/rtfs/blob/master/rtfs_test.go
<Kolonka[m]> I think using pubsub in that way would be relatively simple, but I would like to aim higher
<seba--> what's higher than pubsub
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<Kolonka[m]> co-ordination
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<geoah> kkctrl-?
<geoah> ok weechat is killing me. I'm out. cc seba-- :P
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<Elon_Satoshi> Is there a way to tell how many people are seeding an IPFS directory?
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<voker57> Elon_Satoshi: ipfs dht findprovs
<voker57> this will only tell number of people who seed the top node though
<voker57> otherwise you'd need a complicated query with ipfs refs -r
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<Elon_Satoshi> thank you voker57
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<alyoshaaa> #gx is dead
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<ferrouswheel> Hi all, I'm trying to figure out how to parse a raw block to get at a text file's contents created via "Add". The catch is I'm using python, and while I've got the unixfs proto definition, I'm struggling to figure out the wrapper message format.
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<ferrouswheel> I've found https://github.com/ipld/specs/ - but haven't figured out how to differentiate the block as using merckledag vs IPLD, or where there is a succinct diagram of the block layout. Sorry if it's an obvious question, not too familiar with IPFS yet!
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<geoah> ferrouswheel was wondering what you mean by "how to differentiate the block as using merkledag vs IPLD"
<ferrouswheel> The top of https://github.com/ipfs/specs/tree/master/merkledag says "This spec has been deprecated in favor of IPLD". So I'm not sure which spec I should be paying attention to for the latest release.
<ferrouswheel> ^geoah
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<postables[m]> I thought IPLD was merkle-dag 🤔
<ferrouswheel> Answer to my question: just grab the proto files from random places in documentation. Load the block with merkledag message type, then pass the Data attribute to unixfs proto message.
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<geoah> I assume that that's just one of the possible encodings for the unixfs IPLD format (or whatever it's called).
<geoah> But tbh I don't really get what's changed or changing around this.
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<geoah> If you do a `ipfs object get /ipfs/something-that-exists` you get a pretty straightforward structure
<geoah> same with `ipfs dag get /ipfs/...`