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<nvmq> i've been wondering how the DHT might change after growing to over a billion peers
<nvmq> or more
<nvmq> and whether say, that would speed up resolution (of ipns in particular)
<nvmq> i guess it's mostly a question of kademlia though
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<opal> i just had a thought: why does ipfs need an http transport? its trivial to direct nginx to serve /ipfs and /ipns from your filesystem
<opal> it would reduce the amount of code that ipfs has to deal with
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<postables[m]> opal: lots of reasons, I recently ran into an issue with my private network management tool where we wanted to tunnel swarm connections through a delegator service but because ipfs doesn't have a http/http-path compatible transport we can't
<postables[m]> also a http transport will make it easier to integrate the modern web with ipfs
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<opal> modern web is a mistake and i hope people gain their senses and reverse the damage it has caused
<opal> are the channel logs in here searchable because i forget how to install ipfs on a musl system lol
<opal> i forgot how bad the install process was; it grabs its own dynamically-linked gx and gx-go binaries
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<opal> postables[m]: "ipfs doesn't have a[n http-] compatible transport"... so what would you call the http listener port
<opal> im confused there
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<postables[m]> it doesn't actually fully support HTTP as far as im aware, it just supports tcp stuff. For example I want to establish a swarm connection by dialing a url like `nexus.temporal.cloud/my-network/swarm` but that doesn't work due to the current spec of multiaddr. You can establish port connections, but I wouldn't really call that http support.
<postables[m]> I wouldn't say the modern web is a mistake, but the way its implemented is probably not the best. You can't expect IPFS to achieve adoption by saying fuck the modern web and not supporting http that's just going to create an isolated ecosystem akin to bittorrent and we've gone nowhere imo.
<postables[m]> i wouldn't say the install process is that bad at all. If you're using a not-so popular distribution then you're bound to have some hicups. I've scripted out my ipfs installs on debian based distributions just fine 🤷
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<opal> it's bad if it makes assumptions about the environment and attempts to install dependencies behind the user's back
<opal> im certain i addressed my concern in here before, that the install process shouldnt wget anything and instead it should just complain "you dont have this", and it definitely shouldnt try to wget dynamically linked binaries and use those instead of using system-provided binaries
<postables[m]> i mean its open source and you can put in pull requests to change that ::P
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<opal> i cannot contribute through github
<postables[m]> why not?
<opal> if i can contribute through email then sure i'll make a formatted patch and send it in
<opal> because i can't, is that not a good enough reason for you
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<postables[m]> i mean if its a big pain point for you, it's bound to be a pain point for someone else and you can help make the ecosystem as a whole better by contributing code
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<opal> like i said i'll gladly contribute via email and have someone merge my patch on my behalf
<opal> for a file platform that claims to press the issue of decentralisation, i dont see why i would have to explain my inability to use github which happens to be a centralised service
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<postables[m]> i mean if using github is that big of an issue you can send me code and i'll open a PR on your behalf
<opal> ok thats all i asked, thanks
<opal> i'll see about doing that
<Kolonka[m]> >modern web is a mistake and i hope people gain their senses and reverse the damage it has caused
<Kolonka[m]> I like you
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<opal> thanks; it's my hope that people stop treating web browsers as virtual machines
<postables[m]> anyone know what the appropriate postgresql datatype for a golang uint64 is? sorry if this is the wrong channel
<opal> i'll look real quick; i'm not immediately familiar with pgsql types
<postables[m]> thanks 😄 i think it might be numeric but im not 100% sure
<opal> bigint is signed but it is 64-bit
<Xenguy> .oO( keel him )
<opal> yeah NUMERIC will handle what you want
<opal> looks like arbitrary precision
<postables[m]> 👍 thanks
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<opal> had to manually run the commands from `make -n install`, weird
<opal> i kept getting an error with the makefile: no help topic for 'hook'
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<seba-> if anyone wants to pin for poor venezuelans
<seba-> :>
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<opal> hmm, is there a good way to deal with remote access of directories such as /ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/I/m/ that seem to have a really large file listing?
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<opal> i tried accessing it locally and it took forever and was taking up cpu time so i had to cancel it early; just tried it on ipfs.io and it simply timed out
<opal> for now i'm just disabling directory listings on nginx but i'd think there would be a better fix for this
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<seba-> i don't know
<seba-> 613 gb :o
<seba-> i don't know yet how dir are stored
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<seba-> seems that it has to download a lot of files
<seba-> in order to show that
<seba-> approximately 256*256*60
<seba-> which is about 4 million files
<seba-> that's why it's so slow
<seba-> not sure
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<opal> do you have experience with the ipfs implementation or are you speculating? i don't think a directory listing would require each file to be downloaded first
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<seba-> opal, i'm trying to "reverse-engineer" an IPFS client, i'm documenting everything, but i'm not at that point yet. it's more speculation, let's say informed guess.
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<Kolonka[m]> What is this address seba-?
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<seba-> Kolonka[m], the one i gave hours ago?
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<Kolonka[m]> yeah
<seba-> Kolonka[m], it's just a document that the venezuelan government wants to disseminate, but the gov site keeps crashing, because of overload. ^.^ nothing special, some amnesty law. just i found it a cool application for IPFS analogous to the one during catalonia thing.
<Kolonka[m]> ah
<seba-> yeah, it's silly i guess, but it's more "example for use for common people"
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<Kolonka[m]> that sounds like an ideal use case actually
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<Kolonka[m]> like what it was intended for
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<Kolonka[m]> btw, if you're interested in brainstorming here (https://my.mixtape.moe/wwokzv.png), hit up nvmq with an email
<nvmq> ✔
<Kolonka[m]> (I've never used mailing lists so I'm not sure the best way to go about this, other than using another IRC channel)
<seba-> Kolonka[m], seems that IPFS cluster is the way to go
<seba-> it already exists the project
<Kolonka[m]> I had something quite specific in mind, but I'll take a look at it
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<seba-> http://plesko.si/test/ i updated further my testing page for IPFS ^.^
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<Bl4ckC0r3> hello
<Bl4ckC0r3> need some help here
<seba-> 911 emergency how can i help
<Bl4ckC0r3> hi
<seba-> what is the nature of your problem sir
<Bl4ckC0r3> i want to uninstall ipfs and I dont know how
<Bl4ckC0r3> i am using linux mint 19.1 cinamon
<Bl4ckC0r3> ipfs just take 10GB from my hdd
<Bl4ckC0r3> and I dont give him that right
<Bl4ckC0r3> how i uninstall complety ipfs
<seba-> i'm sorry sir, we'll send an officer if you give us your address
<Bl4ckC0r3> just tell me how I can remove it
<seba-> rm -fr ~/.ipfs
<Bl4ckC0r3> ok
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<lordcirth> Bl4ckC0r3, alternatively, you can just edit ~/.ipfs/config and change StorageMax from the default 10GB, then run 'ipfs repo gc'
<lordcirth> And in future don't install things without knowing what they do?
<Bl4ckC0r3> i have installed go-ipfs
<Bl4ckC0r3> this is what i need to remove
<lordcirth> Bl4ckC0r3, well, how did you install it?
<Bl4ckC0r3> sudo su
<Bl4ckC0r3> then in the go-ipfs
<lordcirth> ... from a tar.gz, nix package?
<Bl4ckC0r3> tar.gz
<Bl4ckC0r3> i dearchive the package in my home folder
<seba-> well just delete that
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<seba-> that's where the repo of 10 g is
<Bl4ckC0r3> i opened a terminal go to go-ipfs folder like cd /Download/go-ipfs
<Bl4ckC0r3> then i installed it with
<Bl4ckC0r3> ipfs init
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<Bl4ckC0r3> then ipfs daemon
<seba-> yes
<Bl4ckC0r3> and that is all
<seba-> that's the correct way to lose 10 GB
<Bl4ckC0r3> i ipfs moved in /usr/local/bin
<Bl4ckC0r3> this what it tell me
<Bl4ckC0r3> but there is only executable ipfs
<Bl4ckC0r3> where is the data wich ipfs downloaded from ipfs network stored
<Bl4ckC0r3> this is what i want to delete
<lordcirth> Bl4ckC0r3, so kill the daemon and and delete ~/.ipfs, as we've said several times
<Bl4ckC0r3> ok thank you for your support
<Bl4ckC0r3> have a great day
<seba-> don't forget to follow us
<seba-> and rate 5 stars
<lordcirth> lol
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<Bl4ckC0r3> ok
<Bl4ckC0r3> give me the link
<lordcirth> Bl4ckC0r3, he's joking
<Bl4ckC0r3> and tell me how i can surf ipfs to see some videos
<lordcirth> Bl4ckC0r3, well, you just deleted it
<Bl4ckC0r3> i deleted the olf ipfs and installed again
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<Bl4ckC0r3> *old
<lordcirth> Why?
<Bl4ckC0r3> and i edited the ipfs config file
<Bl4ckC0r3> how i can surf ipfs
<lordcirth> Bl4ckC0r3, well, you probably want the IPFS Companion browser plugin
<Bl4ckC0r3> ok
<Bl4ckC0r3> now
<Bl4ckC0r3> it open by self
<lordcirth> Bl4ckC0r3, You can go to localhost:8080/ipns/ipfs.io/ and see the IPFS site over IPFS
<Bl4ckC0r3> thanks
<Bl4ckC0r3> ipfs it seems it is like freenet
<Bl4ckC0r3> freenet project
<Bl4ckC0r3> same
<lordcirth> Bl4ckC0r3, similar, except freenet tries really hard to be anonymous and makes massive performance tradeoffs for it
<lordcirth> IPFS is much faster
<Bl4ckC0r3> yes
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<Bl4ckC0r3> Wow I love IPFS
<daed> yeah ipfs is pretty awesome
<Bl4ckC0r3> It is a huge work
<Bl4ckC0r3> thanks
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<Obo[m]1> I'm running into an issue where when I try to get the stats for a piece of content, i receive: "failed to decode Protocol Buffers: incorrectly formatted merkledag node: unmarshal failed. proto: illegal wireType 7"
<Obo[m]1> has anybody ever received an error code like this? This is upon running "ipfs object stat"
<Obo[m]1> I'm also running into it if I try to retrieve this content on a gateway
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<lordcirth> Obo[m]1, I get the same error with that hash. Where'd you get the hash?
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<Bl4ckC0r3> hey
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<Obo[m]1> sure does
<Bl4ckC0r3> what it is?
<Obo[m]1> although thanks for the porn link
<Bl4ckC0r3> jennifer lawrence
<Obo[m]1> really appreciate it -.-
<Bl4ckC0r3> i have with scarlet johannson
<Bl4ckC0r3> or with olivia wilde
<Bl4ckC0r3> Gal Gadot
<Bl4ckC0r3> etc
<Obo[m]1> dude idk, i just saw porn and exited
<Obo[m]1> can we not post that stuff in here
<Bl4ckC0r3> ok
<Bl4ckC0r3> can you give me a link
<Swedneck> want me to remove it?
<Bl4ckC0r3> to test if i cannect
<Bl4ckC0r3> connect
<Obo[m]1> this is a place for developers to chat with each other, not to share porn links
<Bl4ckC0r3> ok sorry
<Bl4ckC0r3> give me a link with a cat
<Swedneck> eh i guess removing it is within my rights
<Bl4ckC0r3> to see if i connect
<Swedneck> hold on
<Swedneck> i have a great cat
<Bl4ckC0r3> k
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<Bl4ckC0r3> just for test purpose
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<Bl4ckC0r3> i wait for the link with cat
<Swedneck> QmWE2PCr8FYvn2wbkGAz17xgQ64BDMBdHuxC6KbjWsKmAv
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<Bl4ckC0r3> thank you
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<Bl4ckC0r3> it is just to test if i can connect
<Bl4ckC0r3> it is 2 cats not 1
<Bl4ckC0r3> thank you
<Bl4ckC0r3> or maybe 1
<Bl4ckC0r3> :D
<Swedneck> it's definitely 1 cat
<Swedneck> a very cuddly cat
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<postables[m]> man as much as people like to trash the go-ipfs node.... at least it doesn't make my server temp go up by 5 degrees like my ethereum node does lmao
<Swedneck> haha wow
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<postables[m]> that spike is me booting the geth node vm, that drop is me turning it off lol 🤦
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<geoah> postables[m] enable pubsub and try again :P
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<postables[m]> i have namesys pubsub enabled with gossip routing, and relay node 🤷
<geoah> woo that's pretty laoded !!
<postables[m]> *edit:* ~~i have namesys pubsub enabled with gossip routing, and relay node 🤷~~ -> i have namesys pubsub enabled with gossip routing, and relay node 🤷 *hash on read and bloomfilter
<postables[m]> the only time my ipfs nodes will spike in temperature is whenever a big file or cid is being added but nothing like the consistent geth node temp boost
<geoah> damn editing messages through matrix results in weird irc messages :p
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<Swedneck> discord, actually :P
<geoah> really? o_O I always assumes the [m] in users' names is from the matrix bridge
<geoah> didn't even know there is a discord to irc bridge :D epic
<Swedneck> matrix has no message editing, so that's an artifact of messages edited on discord
<geoah> wait what? :P lol -- so this is discord > matrix > irc?
<Swedneck> yes
<postables[m]> the no message editing is pretty frustrating lol
<geoah> omfg.
<geoah> "has science gone too far?"
<Swedneck> discord <> matrix <> irc
<geoah> I can't wait for someone to make an irc bridge for discord so we can go full circle
<Swedneck> probably perfectly possible, just that IRC networks are extremely nervous about bridging for some reason
<Swedneck> i think it has to do with connections and being able to read the history
<Swedneck> the latter i find absolutely ridiculous
<geoah> I guess it's the same reason they had issues with bouncers on the 90s -- too many idling connections that waste resources
<geoah> yeah the history one is weird
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<ToxicFrog> geoah: that already exists and I'm using it right now