stebalien changed the topic of #ipfs to: Heads Up: To talk, you need to register your nick! Announcements: go-ipfs 0.4.22 and js-ipfs 0.35 are out! Get them from dist.ipfs.io and npm respectively! | Also: #libp2p #ipfs-cluster #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://view.matrix.org/room/!yhqiEdqNjyPbxtUjzm:matrix.org/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of
<stebalien> We are currently working working on a 0.5 release that will include a revamped DHT & bitswap. However, testing and releasing this work has been blocked on testground (github.com/ipfs/testground) and some very busy and overloaded people.
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<lordcirth__> Yeah, I saw the note that testing is being prioritized. It's a good idea.
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<postablesDiscord> Working with the code base is excruciating. It was quite honestly simpler to rewrite an implementation from scratch in under 3 months that has 10x the performance of go-ipfs at scale. This isn't good and is a sign of a systemic issue with IPFS
<postablesDiscord> The entire community needs to come together and sort these issues out or we will go nowhere.
<postablesDiscord> Many of the people In the community have worked tirelessly to get us to where we are today which is amazing but we need to do something and to be honest I'm not sure what that something is
<vaultec81[m]> A thought I have on golang. It seems the langauge is constantly changes and breaking whenever is try to remotely program in it.
<postablesDiscord> That's a sign of poor programming and is not Golangs fault
<vaultec81[m]> Anyways, I do agree with you IPFS is seriously having issues. The main issues I've seen across the board are DHT, IPNS being slow, and overpeering/attacks on the network causing over 4000 peers unnecessary peers.
<vaultec81[m]> I do believe these issues will be eventually solved and continue to build software based on IPFS
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<stebalien> We feel the same frustrations working on go-ipfs and I'd love to rewrite entire sections of it. We've accrued quite a bit of technical debt.
<stebalien> On the other hand, it's hard to change large portions of go-ipfs due to the massive API surface and the policy of trying not to break things for downstream users.
<stebalien> I'd love to find a happy medium where we can escape this mess.
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<postablesDiscord> I think the "try not to break things for downstream users" in pre-production software is *extremely* bad, and personally I think this is one of the reasons for massive headaches. If you're depending on stable, pre v1, pre production software you're doing something fundamentally wrong
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<voker57> as we can see from radicle example, IPFS is already broken for users
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<the_master[m]> Is their a good on how to make a node/website???
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<the_master[m]> Okay so can I not use Siderus Orion? Link: https://orion.siderus.io/cyberwolf
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<cyberwolf[m]> the_master: probably, yes
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<cyberwolf[m]> and on what the client is not written on electron by accident?
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<the_master[m]> Thanks for now!
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<lordcirth__> stebalien, it's also not clear how I can throw money at IPFS, or why I can't.
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<stebalien> Throwing money won't help, the limiting factor is engineering resources. The most useful things you could do would be: triaging/responding to issues, fixing bugs, and _writing tests and more tests_. Once you learn the codebase, I can recommend more challanging issues and refactors.
<lordcirth> stebalien, I see. I've never done anything in Go, so that might be hard. Is there a guide for triaging? Do I need to get permissions?
<stebalien> In terms of triaging, simply confirming bugs, finding duplicates (and linking to them), etc. would help.
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<swedneck2> money can hire people to do that though
<lordcirth> Well yes, but hiring an entire new person is beyond my means. A lot of projects have people working X hours, and throwing money could get X+1.
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<lordcirth> stebalien, ok, I will see what I can do! Thanks!
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<stebalien> ♥️
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<freaktester[m]> test 12345
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<lordcirth> freaktester[m], hi
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<the_master[m]> Alright then
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