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<aschmahmann[m]>
apotheon: what do you mean by using IPFS as file upload storage? With IPFS you can't ask anyone to download data for you (although some centralized infrastructure like public gateways may temporarily do so for you).
<aschmahmann[m]>
Instead you broadcast that you have some data and then serve it to anyone who asks you for it.
<aschmahmann[m]>
If you want to setup some servers to store data and make it available to anyone on the public IPFS network then I'd recommend checkout using an IPFS pinning service
<aschmahmann[m]>
* apotheon: what do you mean by using IPFS as file upload storage? With IPFS you can't ask anyone to download data for you (although some centralized infrastructure like public gateways may temporarily do so for you).
<aschmahmann[m]>
Instead you broadcast that you have some data and then serve it to anyone who asks you for it.
<aschmahmann[m]>
If you want to setup some servers to store data and make it available to anyone on the public IPFS network then I'd recommend checking out using an IPFS pinning service
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<apotheon>
In my limited experience so far, everything I add to ipfs ends up being available even when my node is offline -- often in seconds.
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<apotheon>
I guess I might just have been lucky.
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<rek2[m]>
<aschmahmann[m] "rek2 Peergos https://peergos.org"> this seems like something we may like to use, but I try creating a test account and got a Sql error...
<rek2[m]>
maybe go will had been better choice for 2020 than java lol :D
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<aschmahmann[m]>
apotheon If you do `ipfs add myfile.txt` it will take the data and add it to the local ipfs repository on your machine. The when you do `ipfs get` on the resulting hash you don't end up asking the network for data since it's already on your computer (that's how it finds the data even offline)
<apotheon>
It shouldn't do that if I kill the daemon, though -- should it?
<apotheon>
I've also had others check ipfs.io URIs after I killed the daemon and gotten confirmation of availability.
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<aschmahmann[m]>
apotheon: I'm pretty sure it will still check your local repo (you can confirm this by just setting a custom IPFS_PATH environment variable). As for ipfs.io, it is a public gateway. If you go to ipfs.io/IPFS/bafyabc it's very likely the gateway will cache it for a little while such that bafyabc is still available even if you're not online. For bonus points if your friend does `ipfs get bafyabc` they will now serve as
<aschmahmann[m]>
additional hosts of the content (at least unless they garbage collect their repo).
<aschmahmann[m]>
IPFS is not free universal storage. That wouldn't really be sustainable. Instead the only shared resource on the public network is the DHT where participants acting in server mode give a relatively small amount of data and bandwidth to the network to help people advertise and discover who is hosting some particular data.
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<apotheon>
"For bonus points if your friend does `ipfs get bafyabc` they will now serve as additional hosts of the content (at least unless they garbage collect their repo)." <- That won't work if they don't have IPFS.
<apotheon>
"IPFS is not free universal storage. That wouldn't really be sustainable." <- That's what I figured. It just seemed like some people liked what I had uploaded so far, given the way it stayed available when I killed the local daemon.
<apotheon>
aschmahmann[m]: last two comments are responses to you
<apotheon>
past bedtime; g'night
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<IanPreston[m]>
<rek2[m] "this seems like something we may"> Was this on demo.peergos.net or alpha.peergos.net? We have many people signing up each day, but I'd like to fix whatever happened when you tried.
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<IanPreston[m]>
<IanPreston[m] "Was this on demo.peergos.net or "> @rek2 Our database server was down for maintenance for a few hours last night, so you probably hit this. It's working fine now.
<gekkido>
Hello everyone
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<gekkido>
couple of questiosn:
<gekkido>
1) are ipfs files sharded
<gekkido>
2) or alternatively are they stored on special nodes
<gekkido>
3) what's the role of the blockchain in this: does it store url addresses or some other information
<gekkido>
?
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<viraptor[m]>
They're stored on nodes that download/pin them.
<viraptor[m]>
No blockchain as such in ipfs itself.
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<JCaesar>
hm, yeah. most of the misunderstandings are about content storage anyway. (I think I also misunderstood that for about half a day when I first learned about IPFS.)
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<swedneck>
Oh yeah lots of people think ipfs is free storage
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