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<tedious>
So I guess there's no way to have a website with much dynamic content unless you have a constantly updating dns record.
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<aschmahmann[m]>
tedious: IPNS is not the same thing as DNSLink despite the unfortunate confusion that they are both referencable using the /ipns prefix. https://docs.ipfs.io/concepts/ipns/
<aschmahmann[m]>
Links that look like /ipns/website.tld refer to a DNSLink links, while other links like /ipns/QmXyz... or /ipns/k5abc... are IPNS links.
<aschmahmann[m]>
IPNS is a self certified mutable link as described in the link above.
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<aschmahmann[m]>
* tedious: IPNS is not the same thing as DNSLink despite the unfortunate confusion that they are both referencable using the /ipns prefix. https://docs.ipfs.io/concepts/ipns/
<aschmahmann[m]>
IPNS is a self certified mutable link as described in the link above.
<aschmahmann[m]>
Links that look like /ipns/website.tld refer to a DNSLink links, while other links like /ipns/QmXyz... or /ipns/k5abc... are IPNS links.
<tedious>
Ok I guess I don't understand it all yet.
<tedious>
If I wanted to publish a blog that stayed accessable when I was offline I could do it by sending out one hash to the top page with links to all the existing pages.
<tedious>
But I'd have to let visitors know of the new hash for the top page if I made any updates.
<aschmahmann[m]>
Step 1 Figure out the immutable things. Step 2 Figure out the mutable things.
<aschmahmann[m]>
Even for a single unchanging blog post with hash QmMyFirstPost who is going to be hosting the actual bits of information while you're offline?
<tedious>
Anyone who pinned the hash after I sent it out right?
<tedious>
So I guess all the old pages that were pinned won't change so users won't need new hashes for them.
<aschmahmann[m]>
Right, but if nobody has pinned the content (or they're all in the same time zone as you and turned off their computers at the same time) then your blog is no longer accessible.
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<tedious>
But at the least the top page will change every time a new post is made otherwise there won't be any links to it and no way for a user to know it's available.
<tedious>
Right that's no problem.
<tedious>
I'm expecting to have some servers pin things.
<tedious>
I'm sure there have to be scripts to automagically pin hashes from an rss feed or things like that right?
<viraptor[m]>
Does anyone know what's the current density of DHT in ipfs public network. Or specifically, if a node with routing=dht joins at this point, is it still helpful for performance, or mostly just noise/overhead?
<scio>
[js-ipfs question] It seems that js-ipfs requires a lot of CJS files from packages individually rather than going through the package itself [1], which is currently a blocker for converting the package to ESM and importing directly on the browser through tools like Skypack [2]. Will a PR be acceptable that converts all these file requires to package requires?
<aschmahmann[m]>
viraptor: there isn't really much noise/overhead from having a larger DHT as long as the nodes are high quality. If your node has good uptime and network connectivity + some spare bandwidth `routing = dht` is helpful. Additionally, the more good nodes there are participating in the network the better it is overall. Note that `routing = dht` is actually an "auto" mode so in the future go-ipfs could theoretically add
<aschmahmann[m]>
features like memory, CPU, bandwidth detection to figure out whether you should be in server mode or not, it already has some features that keep you in client mode if you are not a publicly accessible node (e.g. behind a NAT without UPnP)
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<risk>
o/
<risk>
I'm looking to rsync --update a local tree to ipfs .. I'm trying to work around issues
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<risk>
The tree is about 200G of data, .. so instead of doing ipfs add -r ... I'm trying to use rsync --update --itemize-changes ... and add/rm files using mfs
<risk>
ie. the ip files ... commands
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<risk>
but I can't get timestamps and permissions to show up right in MFS, .. and don't know how to create or update symlinks
<risk>
Should I be mounting mfs somehow to use all of its features? .. is there a better way to make snapshots of my local tree in ipfs?
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<JCaesar>
aschmahmann: Btw, can you still host files in routing=client mode?
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<aschmahmann[m]>
ˈt͡sɛːzaɐ̯: yep, think of the DHT as a big shared bulletin board. You are free to post and read from it as a client independently of whether you are helping maintain it.
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<kallisti5[m]>
aschmanmann the ipns dnslink stuff is pretty much the only way to make ipfs usable from the "normal web". I think there's a *lot* of value there. If you can convince folks to use ipfs gateways, then we can use ipfs just as well. It encourages people to use ipfs for things they wouldn't generally use ipfs for, and opens more content to ipfs.
<kallisti5[m]>
Innovation only succeeds when it is "better" than the current products. ipfs alone without something like dnslink isn't "better" to most folks... it's just confusing.
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<aschmahmann[m]>
kallisti5: there is definite value in DNSLink providing human readable names. Note, you can point DNSLink at IPNS so you don't have to update your DNS record all the time. Also, while initial IPNS resolves are slower to resolve than DNSLink, updates can actually be faster than DNS propagation time. IPNS over PubSub updates are also quite fast once you're part of the channel (i.e. After first resolving the record).
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<kallisti5[m]>
oh. didn't know you could point dnslink at an ipns hash.. that would let you "update" your site reference without modifying TXT records
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<kallisti5[m]>
aschmahmann it would be *really* nice to pin ipns instead of CID's
<kallisti5[m]>
then you could "always mirror" a site
<aschmahmann[m]>
btw you can conversely have IPNS point to DNSLink, not that that's a very common use case.
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<aschmahmann[m]>
kallisti5: ya, IPNS pinning is on the IPNS todo list https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/7572, but it's not at the top of the go-ipfs overall todo list of priorities, since there are a number of bigger fish to fry
<aschmahmann[m]>
IPNS pinning actually has two different components. One is to make sure your IPNS records stay up to date (e.g. rejoining relevant pubsub topics on node restart), the other is pinning + unpinning CIDs based on IPNS records updating.
<aschmahmann[m]>
PRs always welcome though 😃
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