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<hyperreal> Hi
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<bqv> i keep ending up with problems
<bqv> where ipfs just won't start
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<georgyo[m]> Still looking for a solution to the ipfs-js embedded fallback.
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<ipfsbot> Ulvus munk @ulvus posted in Missing rfp links in devgrant - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/missing-rfp-links-in-devgrant/8918/1
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<kyle1337> get that little jealous hater off my stuff that means celluar as well thats another illegal act
<kyle1337> * #ipfs :Cannot send to nick/channel
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<srid> Why does ipfs.io redirect to http://ipfs.io.ipns.localhost:8080/ ?
<didnt1able[m]> <srid "Why does ipfs.io redirect to htt"> That is your local gateway
<srid> test
<srid> ping
<swedneck> check the settings in ipfs-companion
<swedneck> there's a blacklist for domain redirection, just add `ipfs.io` to that list
<srid> I see there is a web interface running at port :5001 - however I wonder what :8080 is about?
<srid> Well, :8080 is a commonly utilized port; it is odd that IPFS steals that
<srid> FWIW, I set up ipfs through NixOS config, as well as installed that Chrome extension.
<swedneck> it's the standard alternative to port 80, basically
<swedneck> you could say that any other project that uses 8080 by default is "stealing" it, you can simply change the port in your config
<srid> Anyway, not bothered too much by it, especially I imagine I can configure it. At the moment, trying to figure out the quickest way to host my images so that I can link to them from my private notes.
<srid> I can 'add' an image to ipfs; but if my laptop goes out in fire, for example, the image is also lost, no?
<srid> Unless I pin the added files in another server machine with ipfs running.
<srid> Images should generally be private (not for public consumption), so secret URLs should suffice.
<swedneck> also, port 8080 is the IPFS gateway config by default, missed that question :P
<swedneck> * also, port 8080 is the IPFS gateway port by default, missed that question :P
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<swedneck> yes, if content is only hosted on one device and that goes offline, the content will be unavailable
<swedneck> for private content, you can either encrypt it or use a private network
<srid> When I refresh an URL like http://docs.ipfs.io.ipns.localhost:8080/ - it actually seems to pull content from elsewhere. Shouldn't it have been cached locally on first load?
<srid> Oh wait, n/m. It does cache it.
<srid> (Not sure if that's browser cache or ipfs cache)
<swedneck> encrypting means you can use the public networks and the benefits that come with that, but it also means people can potentially download the file and break the encryption in the future
<swedneck> <srid "(Not sure if that's browser cach"> por que no los dos?
<srid> Well if I encrypt it, how can I embed that image file using `<img src...>`?
<srid> Is that portuguese?
<swedneck> cache everything thrice, then cache those caches! 🙃
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<swedneck> <srid "Well if I encrypt it, how can I "> you'd need some javascript that decrypts it
<swedneck> <srid "Is that portuguese?"> i think it's spanish? it's just an old meme
<didnt1able[m]> "why not both"
<swedneck> <swedneck "you'd need some javascript that "> you could alternatively use a private IPFS network instead, but then you have to set up your own infrastructure
<srid> How anonymous are the files added to ipfs? If I 'ipfs add foo.txt' - can someone else trace foo.txt back to me?
<swedneck> probably
<swedneck> well, not back you you as a person, unless they spend way too much energy on it
<swedneck> but if your node is the only node serving the content, then one can just assume you're the uploader
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<srid> Okay
<srid> So I added a file using 'ipfs add' (I had to do 'ipfs init' first, which populated ~/.ipfs) - howver the web interface is not displaying that file. Is the web interface using a different ipfs repo on local machine?
<swedneck> how are you viewing it in the browser?
<srid> In http://127.0.0.1:5001/ - there is a left sidebar, where I clicked "Files"
<srid> Where I see this ^
<swedneck> ah, the webui
<swedneck> that uses the MFS (mutable file system), which is accessible via CLI using `ipfs files`
<srid> ```added QmNuHJxysqVMZSTVgCU2pgnYUV7vtQqnUoxuVg5rqqVLJK favicon.svg```
<srid> Is there a way to get a HTTP url for this image?
<swedneck> so to make it show up in the webui, copy the CID of your uploaded file and do `ipfs files cp /ipfs/<CID> /yourfile.foo`
<srid> What's the difference between the two?
<srid> What's the point of MFS?
<swedneck> alternatively if you don't need to use the CLI, you can just use the webui to add stuff to your node directly, and it'll handle the MFS for you
<srid> I'm comfortable with the CLI, that's not the problem. I just want to persist whatever image I upload. I have another server, where I could look into "pinning" these files.
<srid> Actually, in the ideal world, I would have a 1-on-1 mapping between the images in my (private) git repo and what's available on ipfs web
<swedneck> alternatively alternatively, if you don't need to use the webui, you can view the content in the browser by going to `http://localhost:8080/ipfs/<CID>`
<srid> Hmm, git on ipfs with sharable public (raw) urls would be dope
<swedneck> <srid "What's the point of MFS?"> the MFS just gives you a virtual filesystem to keep track of IPFS objects
<srid> So MFS just acts like a pointer/alias to IPFS objects outside? okay.
<swedneck> <srid "Hmm, git on ipfs with sharable p"> there's a project that does that, let me link you
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<srid> That's got .git objects, and not working copy files, right?
<srid> s/got/for/
<srid> <swedneck "alternatively alternatively, if "> Trying this ... it hangs forever. Oops
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<swedneck> <srid "So MFS just acts like a pointer/"> well it's a bit more flexible than that, you can read and write data to the MFS without needing a bunch of extra commands
<swedneck> <srid "That's got .git objects, and not"> "copy files"?
<srid> "working copy" files, as in git working copy.
<swedneck> git-remote-igis has working cloning, however i believe anyone who wants to clone from the IPFS object also needs git-remote-igis installed
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<srid> But 'ipfs add' ... not.
<srid> So .. this URL ^^ will be dead, if laptop dies, right?
<srid> s/laptop/my laptop/
<srid> So, I must now find another server and 'pin' it
<swedneck> <srid "So .. this URL ^^ will be dead, "> yes, if that's the only device providing the content
<srid> MFS is nice; I like how I can organize it in a hierarchy
<srid> I guess I want a distributed Dropbox.
<srid> ... except, instead of centralized storage, I would like to say "okay, store my feels on these servers I control"
<swedneck> if you want to mirror your content on other devices you own, i'd recommend using https://cluster.ipfs.io
<srid> s/my feels/my files/
<srid> You can't really store emotions on a machine hehe
<swedneck> <srid "I guess I want a distributed Dro"> actually i think you want syncthing then :P
<srid> syncthing + public shareable urls
<srid> But I'm also a bit invested in using ipfs. sounds like a cool tech to play with
<swedneck> <srid "syncthing + public shareable url"> sadly i don't know of anything like that
<didnt1able[m]> <swedneck "actually i think you want syncth"> syncthing gives me PTSD, use seafile
<swedneck> best you can do with IPFS isn't too bad though
<srid> Oh, I just realized something
<swedneck> you can set up a cluster between your devices, and i think you'd just have to write a short script that puts stuff in the MFS and pins it on the cluster at the same time
<swedneck> <didnt1able[m] "syncthing gives me PTSD, use sea"> that's offtopic, but i have no issues with syncthing aside from minor UX issues when setting up shared folders
<srid> if my laptop dies away, and I buy new one - to re-add the files (saved in a git repo, for example) - then the hash of files won't change. So all the places (website) that link to the files on ipfs won't be broken
<swedneck> yep!
<srid> which brings me to the question: how do I recursively sync a local directory to MFS?
<didnt1able[m]> cluster
<srid> Can't it be done on a single-node scenario?
<srid> By 'sync' I mean sync from local folder to ipfs daemon
<srid> Kind of like 'ipfs add -r' but to MFS
<srid> So I buy a new laptop, 'git clone ...' and 'recursively-add .'
<swedneck> <srid "which brings me to the question:"> - `ipfs add -wr <dir>`
<swedneck> though bear in mind you'd have to make your own thing that automatically does this..
<swedneck> oh crud i totally gave an example for the wrong thing
<swedneck> lmao
<swedneck> just replace the last step with `ipfs files cp /ipfs/<CID> /whatever`
<srid> 'ipfs files cp' copies to MFS?
<swedneck> yes
<srid> Okay I just did that. But the webui doesn't show the new files
<srid> I copied the CID of the directory (not the files in it)
<swedneck> try refreshing
<srid> I assume 'ipfs files cp' is recursive
<srid> I sdid
<swedneck> or just clicking another webui tab and back to the files tab
<swedneck> ah, that's odd
<srid> opened a new tag, no difference
<srid> but i see it in CLI though: ipfs files ls
<srid> I have to use 'ipfs files stat' to copy the CID
<swedneck> ohhh hold on, i think you need to create the MFS directory first..
<srid> And http://localhost:8080/ retrieving if the CID hangs, once again
<srid> Well this thing is still not as reliable as I'd like
<swedneck> no never mind, what i said first should just work
<swedneck> hmm
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<swedneck> yeah no i'm out of ideas
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<rudolph9[m]> <srid "And http://localhost:8080/ retri"> Have you ever been able to retrieve a cid via the http service? Or is it an intermittent issue?
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