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<reversem3> Has anyone used a database yet on ipfs?
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<reversem3> I was looking into orbitdb
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<aschmahmann> fiveseven: `ipfs dht findprovs` will tell if you who is advertising they have a given CID, and presumably but not necessarily the rest of the graph underneath it.
<aschmahmann> Depending on where in this process you experience a failure will help determine what's going on
<aschmahmann> If you have control over both nodes and the given cid is recursively pinned on the node you're trying to get from I would run `ipfs pin ls --type=recursive` and see if your CID is there. If so I'd then run `ipfs pin verify` and double check the data is successfully pinned. If that all checks out then I'd go to the fetching node and do `ipfs swarm connect /p2p/{peerIDOfPinningNode}` and if that works do an `ipfs get <cid>`.
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<ipfsbot> @int posted in Is it possible to make a secure request from IPFS hosted website to a server? - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/is-it-possible-to-make-a-secure-request-from-ipfs-hosted-website-to-a-server/9963/1
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<fiveseven[m]> any idea what would make `ipfs add --nocopy <file>` fail with `no such file or directory` when that is obviously a big fat lie
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<aschmahmann> fiveseven: maybe if you installed IPFS via Snap (without --classic) and didn't give it access to the relevant parts of your machine
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<ipfsbot> c+aue @cregox posted in What is decentralised free open source and why does it matter? - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/what-is-decentralised-free-open-source-and-why-does-it-matter/9967/1
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<WildeGeist[m]> I love IPFS and Peergos !
<WildeGeist[m]> <fiveseven[m] "any idea what would make `ipfs a"> rotund, its the 90's already. Fat is vulgar
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<skyred> Can ipfs traffic be disguised as https traffic? Or Is ipfs traffic hard for ISP to fingerprint therefore blocked?
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<Alin2093> hi
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<alko89[m]> hi
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<alko89[m]> when creating nginx proxy for IPFS is it safe to expose the api or should I just open the gateway?
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<alko89> when creating nginx proxy for IPFS is it safe to expose the api or should I just open the gateway?
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<swedneck> only gateway, the api should absolutely not be exposed
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<cyberwolf[m]> yes
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<etcdctlftw1> Hi everyone. IPFS newb here. If I publish a file that’s now accessible under my ipns key, and then I “update” that file so that requesting my ipns via a public gateway returns my new file, I know the old file is still accessible by its cid but is there any way to see the old cid still associated with my ipns key? Eg can someone run a command
<etcdctlftw1> like “ipfs history <my-ipns-key>” and see all cids ever associated with that key?
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<bqv> Not unless they were logging the values or something
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<bqv> Anyone use git-remote-ipfs? I resurrected the go version and it's neat as heck :) http://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmczwCSRHcYxWByPqaDDq9HH7Ymc3hxNDQWBR7JGGAKJLP
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<alko89> thanks swedneck :)
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<alko89[m]> damn these message proxies are anoying :D anyway leave 5001 alone and only 8080, found an article on medium that does the opposite thought it was strange
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<bqv> i really want a way to use ipfs as a git host
<bqv> pushing and fetching works easy with that remote-helper
<bqv> but browsing isn't easy
<swedneck> browsing how?
<bqv> like, online viewing
<bqv> e.g. github-like view
<bqv> so either i update iGiS to use the version of the remote-helper i'm using, or i also publish a statically rendered site for doing the browsing
<bqv> cause as it stands, that directory view is pretty crappy if you're after commit logs etc
<bqv> just not sure which of those is better
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<bqv> static is nice cause it requires no server, but then it does make pushing more complicated
<bqv> iGiS is nice, cause no extra push steps, but then i gotta have a webserver for it
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<swedneck> surely there are apps for viewing git repos nicely?
<bqv> spent the last 3 hours looking for them :)
<bqv> none work
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<bqv> swedneck: also, slight issue in that i'm not certain the format exposed by the remote-helper is actually a valid http git repo
<bqv> the remote-helper also has a VFS mode, where this happens /ipfs/QmaHnKF6efhokSETd3A4JsyFq9QUqWV5e1rrc79XZYiA8o/.git/vfs but it's extremely slow and not very ergonomic
<bqv> swedneck: oh, yeah, directly hosting it
<bqv> but that seems painful to pack into a "git push"-like workflow
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<alko89[m]> is there a way to not let a specific domain that is hosted on IPFS to not redirect on IPFS in case you have IPFS companion installed without whitelisting it?
<alko89[m]> I have setup a gateway and I also host a website on IPFS that I have linked on a domain but with IPFS companion enabled it redirects the site to IPFS link, I have a bug that breaks the site in that case
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<srid> Is there something like https://web.archive.org/ that snapshots an URL directly to IPFS, and gives me back the CID hash for sharing in future (and, assuming it is pinned, it remains permanently available)? Bonus points for browser extension for saving.
<srid> Why is this important? web.archive.org apparently blocks some websites from being saved.
<srid> i.e., they cannot be "trusted" (once again why decentralized tech is important)
<srid> * Why is this important? web.archive.org apparently blocks some (legal) websites from being saved.
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<jadedctrl> srid: didn't know the archive did that :o
<jadedctrl> do you have any examples?
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<bqv> ok
<bqv> the complication now is that iGiS as stands, doesn't work for me on my pc in *any* browser
<bqv> only works on my phone
<bqv> so i guess i'll go the generated static html route
<swedneck> what do you mean by "doesn't work"?
<bqv> swedneck: fails to load even the demo repository
<bqv> checked console, load of http errors
<bqv> websocket problems
<bqv> which i'm sure i could fix, but the fact that they can happen is the issue
<swedneck> now i'm very confused, how does a browser load a git repo?
<bqv> i'd rather go for something that's guaranteed to not fuck up that badly
<bqv> swedneck: it's loading over ipfs
<bqv> js-ipfs
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<bqv> or, js-ipld, in that case
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<swedneck> what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
<bqv> trying to have a git repo hosted on ipfs, in a way that's clonable by git (maybe with a helper), and that's browseable by a web browser
<bqv> first part's done
<bqv> second part's what i'm fighting with
<swedneck> i'm not sure that's possible even without involving ipfs
<bqv> ?
<bqv> of course it is
<swedneck> as you'd be using something like github/gitea to present it nicely, normally
<bqv> no, that's my point
<bqv> ugh, wait a sec
<bqv> see, point is, you can easily statically generate pages for a repo
<bqv> my dilemma was just whether to do that or use javascript to do it clientside like iGiS does
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<bqv> but now seeing how flaky iGiS is, i'll just modify the git remote-helper to generate trees like this and publish them alongside the repo
<swedneck> to be clear when you say igis you mean https://github.com/da2x/git-remote-igis ?
<bqv> ( http://igis.io )
<swedneck> ah, maybe try the one i linked then since it's had more work on it?
<bqv> the one you linked is the remote part of it, i.e. how you push/fetch
<bqv> and actually that repo's almost identical to what i'm using, so yeah
<bqv> but, it's incompatible with iGiS
<bqv> even if iGiS was a reliable option
<bqv> anyway, seems most sensible to just modify the remote-helper to generate those html pages as part of pushing
<swedneck> why not just set up a hook?
<swedneck> instead of making it a part of the helper
<bqv> yeah that'd work too i guess. but the way i've done it, i had to use stagit to generate the files, then manually add them to ipfs, and i'd rather skip the disk step
<bqv> swedneck: oh, i remember why. so, uploading the stagit generated files, duplicates all the data
<bqv> because it's not the exact files
<bqv> if i do it in the helper, i can reuse the same blocks
<bqv> come to think of it, the vfs thing, is basically the same data, just in the wrong form
<bqv> it might not even be too hard
<srid> <jadedctrl "do you have any examples?"> https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/12/03/efficacy-of-surgical-masks.aspx
<srid> lol
<srid> > This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.
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<jadedctrl> ooh, I guess there're excluding misinfo?
<srid> *what they think is misinfo
<jadedctrl> that sucks, misinfo's still worth saving, if at least for historial purposes
<srid> They are probably colluding with Google, and "fact-checkers" (Google [censored](https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2019/11/08/google-censorship-buries-mercola.aspx) entirety of mercola.com in summer of 2019)
<bqv> especially on something as ideologically neutral as webarchive
<bqv> i get removing it from facebook/twitter, but webarchive should be safe
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<srid> Let's say we get a IPFS based web archive. Suppose some pinning services or nodes decide to censor a bunch of CIDs, would it prevent anyone from accessing them?
<srid> IOW, how censorship-resistant is IPFS reachability? (all the while supporting blocking of clearly illegal content)
<jadedctrl> mm, I recall an article recently on how pubsub is resistant to such attacks
<bqv> ipfs is a case of have vs don't have. i don't think there's any way to prevent the network from eventually finding a file
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<srid> ipfs has not been very reliable for me. for eg., I added a .html file to :5001/webui - but it ain't accessible from elsewhere, eg: https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipfs/QmXouY8s15BDXkei1vCTT5MJd6rxh7ftjwwrt7TDxnijdM is loading forever
<jadedctrl> srid: seemingly relevant: /ipns/blog.ipfs.io/2020-10-30-dht-hardening/
<bqv> srid: that's probably your node being poorly connected
<srid> that's my laptop running nixos, which has working internet connection.
<bqv> i've been using my node as a pastebin and image host (and now git service), so at this point it's basically constantly peered to the gateway
<srid> in the webui it says 747 peers.
<bqv> also, your thing loads for me
<srid> shouldn't that be enough?
<bqv> yeah i guess
<srid> <bqv "also, your thing loads for me"> Oh it loaded *now*. But it wasn't before (a few minutes after I added the file to ipfs)
<srid> I guess there is a substantial propagation delay.
<bqv> yeah that's the gateway trying to find a way to your node, cause you've *just* added the data and i presume you haven't added anything else in recent time
<bqv> but it'll be way faster now that half the nodes it saw while searching have cached it
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<bqv> e.g. i just tested on my local node and it found it in 20s
<jadedctrl> I got it on my node in less than 2s
<srid> > you haven't added anything else in recent time
<srid> true (except for one .jpg added in the very beginning)
<bqv> there you go
<jadedctrl> looks like it's gotten around pretty well
<srid> * >
<srid> you haven't added anything else in recent time
<srid> true (except for one .jpg added in the very beginning)
<srid> * > you haven't added anything else in recent time
<srid> true (except for one .jpg added in the very beginning)
<srid> fwiw, I used the [SingleFile](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/singlefile/mpiodijhokgodhhofbcjdecpffjipkle?hl=en) extension to "archive" web pages like that
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<fiveseven[m]> <aschmahmann " fiveseven: maybe if you install"> yes... how could I fix that in this case then?
<fiveseven[m]> I didn't know I was supposed to do anything special
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<aschmahmann> fiveseven: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/7872#issuecomment-765033899, basically this is just an issue with snaps. Do you feel the doc changes here https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs-docs/pull/605/files would be helpful, or are they insufficient/do you have a better suggestion.
<aschmahmann> For context, this also happens with other tools that interact with the files directly like the json querier `jq` https://stackoverflow.com/questions/58128001/could-not-open-file-lol-json-permission-denied-using-jq
<solken[m]> <srid "fwiw, I used the [SingleFile](ht"> Thanks this will be very handy
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<ipfsbot> @InterPlanetary posted in Ipfs.io use case - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/ipfs-io-use-case/9971/1
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<lidel> <frandavid100 "I installed it and chose "embedd"> Yes, its normal. "embedded" node type is experimental, and in Firefox it does not provide gateway (you can import files with it, but you will load them via a public gateway)
<lidel> <srid "Is there something like https://"> I believe ArchiveWeb.page extension includes (or is working on) experimental IPFS support, so users can archive a page (or several), then share via IPFS. More info: https://archiveweb.page/guide/sharing
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<ipfsbot> @ziyadparekh posted in Retrieving files without a CID - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/retrieving-files-without-a-cid/9973/1
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<ipfsbot> @pgzw posted in Pinned data > StorageMax - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/pinned-data-storagemax/9974/1
<reversem3> Wait so where not supposed to use any gateways?
<reversem3> Isn’t dweb, fleek, ipfs.io. Gateways.
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