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<wings[m]>
I got it working perfectly, BUT - doesn't work on iPhone
<ratsclub[m]>
I currently have setup those DNS records but for some reason it can't reach the content...
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<ratsclub[m]>
* I currently have setup those DNS records but for some reason it can't reach the content... I need to append the `/ipfs/<hash>` to make it work
<ratsclub[m]>
I can't add a CNAME to my root domain and I'm not sure if this is the problem
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<BobSacmanto[m]>
Can IPFS work if the government shutdowns the internet?
<ratsclub[m]>
<BobSacmanto[m] "Can IPFS work if the government "> I mean, if you can connect to another node through some kind of connection then yes
<ratsclub[m]>
You don't actually need Internet connection you just need some form of network between the nodes
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<Evanito[m]>
We haven't had much made in local mesh hardware outside of shortwave radio like MeshTastic devices or bluetooth mesh phone apps
<Evanito[m]>
Those focus more on low bandwidth text though, high bandwidth data transfer isn't really in our local mesh hardware yet
<Evanito[m]>
Would be interesting to see if you could unite a rural town under some router trickery
<Evanito[m]>
ratsclub: Sorry for the late reply. If you want to DNSLink your url `ipfs.freire.dev.br` then you want to put your DNSLink TXT at `_dnslink.ipfs.freire.dev.br`
<ratsclub[m]>
<Evanito[m] "Those focus more on low bandwidt"> Yeah, IPFS consumes a lot of bandwidth so this isn't really an option I guess
<ratsclub[m]>
I once talked to a cuban saying they had small routers serving content to locals. It would be a perfect fit to IPFS, literally an Intranet
<Evanito[m]>
The main part of IPFS that hogs the bandwidth is the DHT, a smaller internet (of say a rural town) will also have a smaller DHT 🤔
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<ratsclub[m]>
<Evanito[m] "ratsclub: Sorry for the late re"> I just changed it, let's see how it goes. Thank you for your fast reply!
<Evanito[m]>
ratsclub: Wish I could see that setup! Sounds like what would be the norm in small towns if we had a different culture here in the US
<ratsclub[m]>
<Evanito[m] "ratsclub: Wish I could see that "> They wish too, the govt confiscated most of the routers... I guess this type of setup wouldn't scale much but I can see it being used to spread content in public places
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<tedious>
BobSacmanto[m]: I think you can bring a laptop to your friend's network and sync up any blocks you are missing.
<tedious>
Which is pretty awesome IMO.
<ratsclub[m]>
<Evanito[m] "ratsclub: Sorry for the late re"> It worked! Thank you so so much!
<ratsclub[m]>
I'd like to host my website on my own raspberry so it will be of very good use!
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<Evanito[m]>
Cool! Welcome to the club!
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<Evanito[m]>
I know your rPi will always be on but I still recommend using a pinning service like Pinata ratsclub
<Evanito[m]>
Their nodes are usually more connected on the network and will give your visitors faster load times
<ratsclub[m]>
I guess it won't be THAT bad as my website is mostly text
<ratsclub[m]>
* I guess it won't be that bad as my website is mostly text
<Discordian[m]>
Currently I just host my website from home too, but I do plan on mirroring it to my own node in the future.
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<Evanito[m]>
That's the fun part about IPFS, mirroring is a breeze
<Discordian[m]>
Yeah ^-^
<Evanito[m]>
Now the only feature I'm wishing for from Pinata is a way to sync it to a cluster I run...
<Discordian[m]>
Wish I could pin an IPNS address tho
<Evanito[m]>
Now THAT would be a service
<ratsclub[m]>
<Discordian[m] "Currently I just host my website"> I'm trying to make a cheap (?) hosting machine for my website. Something on the lines of a raspberry pi w powered by solar panels I guess
<Evanito[m]>
Do you plan to serve the HTTP requests yourself ratsclub ? Or just run an IPFS node with your website pinned
<Discordian[m]>
That sounds like an interesting idea, hook up some batteries and a solar panel, power it directly through DC.
<ratsclub[m]>
<Evanito[m] "Do you plan to serve the HTTP re"> Just run an IPFS Node with my website which currently sits at gitlab and https://freire.dev.br/
<ratsclub[m]>
> <@evanito:matrix.org> Do you plan to serve the HTTP requests yourself ratsclub ? Or just run an IPFS node with your website pinned
<ratsclub[m]>
* Just run an IPFS Node with my website which currently sits at gitlab and https://freire.dev.br/
<Evanito[m]>
A low power IPFS setup doesn't sound impossible to me.
<Evanito[m]>
Anyone know if running in `dhtclient` mode stops you from providing?
<ratsclub[m]>
<Discordian[m] "That sounds like an interesting "> Yeah, the most fun part will be to develop a deploy pipeline. I have no idea how to do it at the current moment lol
<Discordian[m]>
I run in dhtclient, seems to work fine
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<Evanito[m]>
Give me your peerid and something you have pinned, I'll check haha
<Evanito[m]>
Though now that I think about it, might be better to not give your IP to people on the internet..
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<Discordian[m]>
That page is taking an eternity to load for me lol
<ratsclub[m]>
I'm not running any companion and accessing it through the ipfs gateway
<ratsclub[m]>
* I'm not running any companion and accessing it through the ipfs gateway so it should be the same for us. Doesn't it?
<Evanito[m]>
I think the gateway uses some CDN magic, your gateway may not be the same as mine
<Evanito[m]>
Also we may just be using our local nodes haha
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<ratsclub[m]>
Oh, I see... Bootstraping this project would be kind of pointless I guess
<Evanito[m]>
What do you mean by that? A lot of issues I see with long load times get better the longer the content is on the network
<Discordian[m]>
Yeah I find the slowest part to be IPNS, and IPNS-pubsub makes that way smoother. I quite like the experience. I think I have like 10mbps upload, maybe less
<ratsclub[m]>
<Evanito[m] "What do you mean by that? A lot "> I mean that I wanted to create a *light* node of some sort powered by solar panels and a small device. So hosting a node just so I can make content available faster is pointless in this project
<Discordian[m]>
You don't have to host an extra node. You could use a pinning service to guarantee speeds for example. You could also rely on altruism, people just pinning your content, which would help it be available.
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<alessandroetc[m]>
yeah, this is pretty slow
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<ratsclub[m]>
<Discordian[m] "You don't have to host an extra "> yeah, altruism would be better. Using a pinning service would be technically the same as "paying" a service just so I can host my website on my *hipster* technology lol
<Discordian[m]>
I got it loaded through ipfs.io
<Discordian[m]>
Do you have port 4001 forwarded?
<ratsclub[m]>
I didn't setup anything. I literally just ran ``ipfs init && ipfs add -r dir && ipfs daemon``
<Discordian[m]>
If you forward port 4001 of your RPi on your router, you might have better luck with propagation
<ratsclub[m]>
It didn't take that long to be fair...
<ratsclub[m]>
I'm glad with the current result. really.
<Discordian[m]>
Also, the other pages are loading through the gateway 🙂
<Discordian[m]>
Well my local node still doesn't see it
<alessandroetc[m]>
works for me now
<Discordian[m]>
Oh nice, I guess I'll get it eventually
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<ratsclub[m]>
It's nothing compared to the time I have to wait until dnslink clear the cache of the old hash
<ratsclub[m]>
* It's nothing compared to the time I have to wait until dnslink clears the cache of the old hash
<Discordian[m]>
You don't point dnslink to an IPNS address?
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<ratsclub[m]>
I pointed it to a IPFS hash
<ratsclub[m]>
* I pointed it to an IPFS hash
<Discordian[m]>
If you enable IPNS-pubsub, and use IPNS, you can setup your dnslink to point to the IPNS address, and then just update the hash via IPNS, which is a lot faster
<Discordian[m]>
You don't need pubsub, but it's way faster
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<Evanito[m]>
I DNSLink to an ipfs address just fine on Cloudflare. The trick is setting the TTL to 2 minutes haha
<Evanito[m]>
* I DNSLink to an ipfs hash just fine on Cloudflare. The trick is setting the TTL to 2 minutes haha
<Discordian[m]>
Haha why go through the trouble of DNS when you can just use IPNS-pubsub though?
<ratsclub[m]>
<Discordian[m] "Haha why go through the trouble "> to be fair, it looks kind of weird to access an URL and be redirected to another
<Discordian[m]>
Well, if you're using IPNS, then in the browser you don't see a redirect, you see the IPNS URL.
<Discordian[m]>
Just like if you use IPFS, you see the IPFS url.
<Discordian[m]>
Yeah but if you used IPFS, you'd be redirected anyways lol
<Discordian[m]>
It's not served by a webserver so it requires a gateway. If you used an IPFS enabled browser, it'd look more natural depending on the implementation.
<ratsclub[m]>
Under the hood you'll be redirect in my setup and yours but the UX is different as in my case the URL stays the same
<ratsclub[m]>
* Under the hood you'll be redirect in both setups but the UX is different as in my case the URL stays the same
<ratsclub[m]>
<Evanito[m] "I DNSLink to an ipfs address jus"> I'm afraid this is a silly question but do you set the TTL on your DNS provider?
<Discordian[m]>
In the future I'll host my own gateway, which will likely enable me to do magic to keep the URL consistent.
<Discordian[m]>
Also I don't see how using IPFS vs IPNS has anything to do with redirects lol
<ratsclub[m]>
I'm not talking in a technical manner I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear
<ratsclub[m]>
But for a regular user, it's weird to see the URL changing
<Discordian[m]>
I'm not sure what you're getting at though. The URL changing will be the same using IPFS or IPNS
<Discordian[m]>
Maybe to offer more clarity, for example my dnslink record is simply `dnslink=/ipns/k51qzi5uqu5dlzjf07qr5sjvr8g1zisqfbhb4y5pg0iuo8herko7ah7731uehz`
<ratsclub[m]>
I'm not criticizing your setup it's just something I don't want happening here in my side
<Discordian[m]>
That webpage is served over their own gateway, it'd be the same over IPFS or IPNS
<Discordian[m]>
Yeah you can serve your own gateway to avoid that
<ratsclub[m]>
Yes
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<ratsclub[m]>
I'll investigate further the best way to make this project happen and show it here when done
<Discordian[m]>
I can't wait for browsers to get proper IPFS implementations and we can just use `ipfs://` and `ipns://`
<Discordian[m]>
*and have it work exactly as expected. So far the only one I've seen totally work as I'd expect `ipns://` to work is galacteek. But alas, WASM doesn't work.
<Discordian[m]>
Brave's getting there
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<Evanito[m]>
<Discordian[m] "Haha why go through the trouble "> I have a one-click deploy script using ipfs-deploy. Only trouble was setting it up in the first place, now I'm glad I did
<Discordian[m]>
Haha a "why fix what ain't broke?" situation
<ratsclub[m]>
<Evanito[m] "I have a one-click deploy script"> I want to try a deploy pipeline with NixOS
<Evanito[m]>
<ratsclub[m] "I'm afraid this is a silly quest"> Yes
<Discordian[m]>
I just automatically sync my directory
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<Evanito[m]>
Discordian does ipns://evanito.com do what you expect?
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<Evanito[m]>
I need to check this redirect thing you guys were talking about, should be a best of both worlds here
<Discordian[m]>
Oooh I'd love to check it out but I just went to bed
<Discordian[m]>
I'll check it in the am
<Evanito[m]>
Hahaha goodnight Discordian
<Discordian[m]>
Haha goodnight
<ratsclub[m]>
Good night! Thanks for your time
<Evanito[m]>
ratsclub interesting that your browser just converts `ipns://` to `ipfs.io/ipns/`
<Evanito[m]>
Growing pains of a new protocol, I guess
<ratsclub[m]>
I typed `ipfs.io/ipns/` :( I use Debian stable on my machine so I guess I won't see IPFS support that soon lol
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<Evanito[m]>
Oh haha, well what you did was specify what gateway you wanted to use to view my website. If you just visit evanito.com it uses my default, Cloudflare.
<ratsclub[m]>
I see
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<ratsclub[m]>
<ratsclub[m] "I want to try a deploy pipeline "> I might try it this weekend. I guess it would be sufficient to pull changes from a git repo and just add it to my node
<ratsclub[m]>
> <@ratsclub:matrix.org> I want to try a deploy pipeline with NixOS
<ratsclub[m]>
* I might try it this weekend. I guess it would be sufficient to pull changes from a git repo and just add it to my node
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<wings[m]>
<Discordian[m] "Isn't riff.cc for torrents? Or d"> it's for torrents yes but I'm rehosting everything on IPFS too.
<wings[m]>
we want to have more content than the whole rest of IPFS some day ;)
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<astronavt___>
Has anyone made a "bridge" of some kind that exposes content on ipfs over a more traditional interface like webdav?
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<jhbdhs[m]>
Hi
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<Evanito[m]>
wings: I think you would be better off asking if you can make an HLS player for the iPhone safari browser. I'm sure the answer is yes, I just don't know how.
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<Discordian[m]>
Also I assume you mean signed by private key, verified by public key. Also DHT instead of "DTH"? Sorry, it's really difficult to follow.
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<butcher>
my bad :D
<butcher>
yes
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<Discordian[m]>
Haha alright, glad Private Networks gives you what you want 🙂
<butcher>
looks u would need a shared key for private network.
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<Discordian[m]>
Yeah, looks like that's it's done.
<Discordian[m]>
* Yeah, looks like that's how it's done.
<butcher>
i was thinking of public( anyone could join ) but peer could only update own key
<Discordian[m]>
What are you trying to accomplish?
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<butcher>
nothing exact .. i am just researching ... i was hoping may be other might have similar problem but can't find any .... feels like it could have cool application